hehehemann Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Kenco - Your coming along very well with what you are creating. I agree with you on not changing the nations of the clubs to that of the superleague. I ran an experiment with a 20 team, good mix from all over the world type clubs and the only changes I made when doing the comparison was to change the nationality. When teams had no editing of their nation the transfers around the world were like of real life today. When teams had their nation changed to the superleagues nation the transfers were not realistic at all. I would imagine after a few seasons the teams would have a massive mix of nationality players. FC Kobenhaven for example were buying not scandanavians and instead bought players from Australia and eastern europe. I looked at the fixtures again, take a look at the MLS teams in your league. Their fixture list is crazy. Half the games have no results to show yet they must have been played as the are on the same amount of games as the other teams in the superleague. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 Once I've finished everything else I am thinking of changing the nationalities just for a test run, as previous experiences of World Leagues meant unrealistic transfers and manager changes. In FM09 I had a Spanish Empire League running in the Swedish League so all clubs were changed to Swedish. This meant they mostly signed Scandinavian players and appointed unknown Swedish managers. I think I will set some homegrown limits in my league, as I want to retain some kind of national pride. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 Kenco - Your coming along very well with what you are creating. I agree with you on not changing the nations of the clubs to that of the superleague. I ran an experiment with a 20 team, good mix from all over the world type clubs and the only changes I made when doing the comparison was to change the nationality. When teams had no editing of their nation the transfers around the world were like of real life today. When teams had their nation changed to the superleagues nation the transfers were not realistic at all. I would imagine after a few seasons the teams would have a massive mix of nationality players. FC Kobenhaven for example were buying not scandanavians and instead bought players from Australia and eastern europe. I looked at the fixtures again, take a look at the MLS teams in your league. Their fixture list is crazy. Half the games have no results to show yet they must have been played as the are on the same amount of games as the other teams in the superleague. Apart from the fixtures being split into 2 seasons rather than one, and a few friendlies being played in late Feb/early March, there isn't anything else going on in my game. They are all played on the same day as other games in their division. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terra21 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Looking forward to this Kenco, can't wait til it's done and see it all working together Quick question, how will the current Cups such as the major continental cups work? Such as the Champions Leagues or Europa Leagues? Will they be removed from the game to make way for the World Club Cups you designed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 Looking forward to this Kenco, can't wait til it's done and see it all working together Quick question, how will the current Cups such as the major continental cups work? Such as the Champions Leagues or Europa Leagues? Will they be removed from the game to make way for the World Club Cups you designed? They won't exist, since the World League is set in Malaysia and no other leagues are playable since most of their teams have left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magvest Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Looking forward to this mate, a quick question: Have you created any domestic cups? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpz Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 No Dinamo Zagreb!? Or Hajduk? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewartJRobertson Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 This looks amazing. Cant wait for the download. Bit disappointed at the lack of respect for Scottish teams but i suppose thats come to be expected. Keep up the good work mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 Looking forward to this mate, a quick question:Have you created any domestic cups? At the moment I have 6 cups, as follows: World League Cup = top 3 divisions, with a group stage then two-legged knockouts until a one-off match for the final (similar to current ECC). Intercontinental Cup = knockout for Tiers 4,5 and 6. European Cup = European Tiers 4 to 8 American Cup = American Tiers 4 to 8 OceAfrAsia Cup = Other Tiers 4 to 8 World FA Cup = straight knockout cup for all 858 clubs in the structure. But no domestic cups because the only way to do this (I think) is to pick specific teams, which would take a lot of time. And I think the cups above are more than enough, as every team enters either 2 or 3 cups per season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 CPZ - Zagreb are in Tier 8 and Hajduk in Tier 7. StewartJRobertson - I'm not disrespecting Scottish teams, merely placing them by their reputation in the game. My test runs so far suggest their placing is right, as none of them have reached the higher leagues. The highest I have seen was Rangers getting into Tier 3 for one season, and went straight back down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeLikeFM Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 This lost all credibility when I seen Pat's in it and no Shamrock Rovers. I would love to see the logic behind that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 This lost all credibility when I seen Pat's in it and no Shamrock Rovers.I would love to see the logic behind that. St Pat's Athletic reputation 4950 Shamrock Rovers reputation 4250 Is that good enough logic for you? Shamrock Rovers are in Tier 7, which I haven't posted yet. Thanks for your support . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted November 9, 2009 Author Share Posted November 9, 2009 After 8 days of editing/testing I finally tried to manage a team in this database, and had a strange message when trying to sing foreign players. "Liverpool cannot sign non-english players before July 2006". Must be a bug of some kind which I seem to have fixed, but not sure where this came from. Anyone else seen anything like this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpa Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Is it out soon? I cant wate to try it!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted November 10, 2009 Author Share Posted November 10, 2009 You'll have to wait a bit longer I'm afraid, as I want to sort out the regoinal leagues as much as possible, which will involve making sure every team has an actual stadium in a city with long/lat co-ordinates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted November 11, 2009 Author Share Posted November 11, 2009 I was hoping to post some screenshots of the leagues, but can't seem to do it. Can anyone give me some pointers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
angryfish Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Press "Print screen" on ur keyboard (next to F12) Open up mspaint and paste (crtl + v) Upload and link! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted November 11, 2009 Author Share Posted November 11, 2009 How do I upload? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rndm.dc Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Ambitious to say the least! I'll definitely be following the progress of this. Important thing dude is to not take people's moans and groans about what teams should be where and pestering about when it's out by. Take your time. Most important is the core structure and it being bug free. Hope everything works out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted November 11, 2009 Author Share Posted November 11, 2009 Ambitious to say the least! I'll definitely be following the progress of this. Important thing dude is to not take people's moans and groans about what teams should be where and pestering about when it's out by. Take your time. Most important is the core structure and it being bug free. Hope everything works out! Thanks. I agree the structure is the most important, as when it's available for download people can change teams and add rules themselves. Still need advice un uploading these screenshots if anyone can help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Styles Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 You can upload pictures at imageshack.us, no clue how to post them here though! but could always put the direct links here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel LUFC Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 How to Post a Screenshot While in FM, press the 'Prt Sc' button (usually next to F12 on your keyboard). Open an image editing program such as Paint and paste the image Save the file as a JPEG Upload the image to an image hosting website such as Photobucket Post the direct Url to the image here. If you want to edit the title of the link click the litle globe icon and paste in the direct link and the result will be like this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted November 11, 2009 Author Share Posted November 11, 2009 I'll do some screenshots of all the leagues very soon, but I may add in tier 9 first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KieranLFC1 Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 this should be class. how long before its ready? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted November 11, 2009 Author Share Posted November 11, 2009 Here goes... More to follow soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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smallclone Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Yummy. I want to play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted November 11, 2009 Author Share Posted November 11, 2009 How to Post a Screenshot While in FM, press the 'Prt Sc' button (usually next to F12 on your keyboard). Open an image editing program such as Paint and paste the image Save the file as a JPEG Upload the image to an image hosting website such as Photobucket Post the direct Url to the image here. If you want to edit the title of the link click the litle globe icon and paste in the direct link and the result will be like this Thanks for this, but can't seem ti edit the title of the link, so I posted the image directly. I am adding all the links into post 2, but would still like to rename them, if I can work out how. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Ricardo Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 World Super League 3's playoff structure is epic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted November 11, 2009 Author Share Posted November 11, 2009 World Super League 3's playoff structure is epic! I was just experimenting at first, but decided to leave it in for now as it is exciting. Basically the top 2 teams go up autmatically, then the next 5 go into a league system play-off, with the winner getting promoted. At the other end, 4 teams go down automatically, then the next 5 play a similar play-off league with the bottom 2 going down. The reason for this is to get around the following play-off problems: 1. Cannot play 2 legs 2. Cannot set neutral venue for 1 leg games 3. No team seeding based on league position All these issues mean that teams can get an unfair advantage no matter what their final league position is, so my play-off system with 5 teams means that everyone gets 2 home and 2 away matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearyg Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Absolutely amazing work Kenco! when you releasing it!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Ricardo Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Yes, if there's one thing we need to have in the next editor, then it's the ability to have playoffs over two legs and a neutral venue for a final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kenco Posted November 11, 2009 Author Share Posted November 11, 2009 Play-off system for League 6 promotion works like this: 2 auto relegations from each division in League 5 = 6 teams. 1 auto promotion from each division in League 6 = 5 teams. 5 teams in 2nd place go into league style play-off, with winners gaining final promotion spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMister Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Kenco, I admire your determination. It's looking very good. Tell me, how are you deciding on TV/prize money and sponsorship? Did you get around the problem of the Asian champions league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallclone Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Kenco, can you remind me if there are work permit rules in your League or not? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 TheMister - I will list all the TV / Prize money on here soon. Sponsorship? Didn't know you could set this, it seems to go through automatically. Some of the better Asian teams still compete in the Asian Champions League. This is one of the many issues I need to fix before release. Smallclone - No work permit rules at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallclone Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Smallclone - No work permit rules at all. Magic. Really looking forward to this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadEck Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 haha, this looks class! although perhaps rangers and celtic should be a little higher than they are? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Ricardo Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 The only way to fix the continental competitions is to rely on the holy Wallis and Futuna magic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyt86 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 hey kenco this looks awesome, any news on when it could be ready? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 The only way to fix the continental competitions is to rely on the holy Wallis and Futuna magic. Yeah I think I will try this in my next edit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barka_legend Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Looks quality, when do you estimate it'll be done? Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadWoodster Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 You mentioned earlier about problems of setting clubs to this nations because of dodgy transfers, have you tried experimenting with the nation's transfer preferences? Not quite sure the best settings here, perhaps remove them all? or set them all to high? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 You mentioned earlier about problems of setting clubs to this nations because of dodgy transfers, have you tried experimenting with the nation's transfer preferences? Not quite sure the best settings here, perhaps remove them all? or set them all to high? I've seen some other World League Projects where setting teams to the same nation changes their transfer preferences, so I thought I'd leave the nations alone so all clubs continue as they normally would. Also I find it's a nice touch to know which nation a club is originally from, as with over 200 nations represented it's difficult to keep track. Just a reminder for those waiting on the download, there is a lot of testing still to be done, it will be at least a few weeks as I want to make sure it's just right before I release it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel LUFC Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Thanks for this, but can't seem ti edit the title of the link, so I posted the image directly.I am adding all the links into post 2, but would still like to rename them, if I can work out how. Take the direct link for the image and then type the link name for your title e.g. world league 1 then higlight it and click this button. Paste the direct link and then the words you want as the title will form a hyperlink as above and it should work. Hope that makes sense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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