chestermike Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Playing FM14, I have a question regarding wage totals. My total player wages comes to just under £15k a season, yet on my budget it says I am at £22k per season. What is being added on that I don't know about? Is it appearance bonuses? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hashassin Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 isnt 22k an amount you're allowed to spend? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chestermike Posted December 8, 2013 Author Share Posted December 8, 2013 Nope, I am allowed £21k. Says I am spending £22k, but my player wages only add up to £14.8k per week. So what am i missing? Does anyone know? Is it loyalty bonuses or appearance fees that are added on??? I'm baffled as its stopping me buying playing I need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kweek89 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Are you taking staff wages into account? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chestermike Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 No Kweek as it doesnt say total wages, its the tab on finances called wages, under 'total PLAYER wages'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I'm sure that bonuses count towards the budget now as well. However I am yet to see an explanation how this is calculated. This would indeed be very useful for everyone out here and much needed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Nope, I am allowed £21k. Says I am spending £22k, but my player wages only add up to £14.8k per week. So what am i missing? Does anyone know? Is it loyalty bonuses or appearance fees that are added on??? I'm baffled as its stopping me buying playing I need. I'm sure that bonuses count towards the budget now as well.However I am yet to see an explanation how this is calculated. This would indeed be very useful for everyone out here and much needed Yes when you negotiate a contract it tells you on the right hand side what the wage budget contribution is. I presume its a mix of wage + some % of bonuses but as jayahr has said its not obvious what that % is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerardpique Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Yeah the total player wages in finances and the displayed current player wage total includes bonuses, I got confirmation of this in another thread. It's a complete pain in the backside that SI have changed this for FM14 as it's not clear at all how the bonuses are worked out and the maths calculated to the displayed wage total, nevermind the fact that bonuses such as appearance fee, clean sheet bonues, goal bonus etc etc etc are not guaranteed fixed weekly figures but the game seems to take them as such. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnyvagus77 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Yeah the total player wages in finances and the displayed current player wage total includes bonuses, I got confirmation of this in another thread. It's a complete pain in the backside that SI have changed this for FM14 as it's not clear at all how the bonuses are worked out and the maths calculated to the displayed wage total, nevermind the fact that bonuses such as appearance fee, clean sheet bonues, goal bonus etc etc etc are not guaranteed fixed weekly figures but the game seems to take them as such. This is interesting...so if you have a player on 10k a week but also has 2k appearance money and 1k a goal in his contract, this would result in 13k a week being taken from the wage budget? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerardpique Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 This is interesting...so if you have a player on 10k a week but also has 2k appearance money and 1k a goal in his contract, this would result in 13k a week being taken from the wage budget? Actually no, after manually going through my squad and finances screen one by one and adding it all up at the time it didn't (& still doesn't) add up logically like that and I still for the life of me can't figure out how it's calculated by the game but bonuses are and were confirmed by SI to be taken into account in some way for wage totals on the salary screen and by the board for the total player wage bill. You'll notice on the salary screen the "current player wage total", which is what the game/ board read as the total player wage bill is bigger than the "Overall Total" from the last row of the breakdown on the salary screen which is purely players salary without bonuses. It just seems as if it plucks some arbitrary figure that has no real mathematical sense behind it to be honest which is incredibly frustrating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chestermike Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 Anyone from SI want to clarify this for us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinso Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 maybe "yearly wage rise clauses" are taken into account? Or do they happen at the end of the season, as opposed to 1 year from when the contract was signed... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerardpique Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 maybe "yearly wage rise clauses" are taken into account? Or do they happen at the end of the season, as opposed to 1 year from when the contract was signed... They go through when the season updates, you get a little news item saying who is getting them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaced33 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Perhaps it is loyalty bonuses divided by the length of the contract in weeks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaced33 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Just checked the loyalty bonuses and it seems to come off the transfer budget and future transfer budgets Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaced33 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 It looks like its 20% of the appearance fee and 80% of the unused sub fee is added into the weekly wage budget Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke159 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Actually no, after manually going through my squad and finances screen one by one and adding it all up at the time it didn't (& still doesn't) add up logically like that and I still for the life of me can't figure out how it's calculated by the game but bonuses are and were confirmed by SI to be taken into account in some way for wage totals on the salary screen and by the board for the total player wage bill. You'll notice on the salary screen the "current player wage total", which is what the game/ board read as the total player wage bill is bigger than the "Overall Total" from the last row of the breakdown on the salary screen which is purely players salary without bonuses. It just seems as if it plucks some arbitrary figure that has no real mathematical sense behind it to be honest which is incredibly frustrating. Maybe it does, maybe the bonuses that it calculates are for the players who have bonuses and have earned those bonuses. GK with clean sheet happens to have a good game with no goals been conceded so earns the bonus, but the next match he fails to stop a ball going past so fails to get the clean sheet bonus for that match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaced33 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Try changing these bonuses in a contract renewal and you can see exactly how they affect the wage contribution Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jozza800 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Nope, I am allowed £21k. Says I am spending £22k, but my player wages only add up to £14.8k per week. So what am i missing? Does anyone know? Is it loyalty bonuses or appearance fees that are added on??? I'm baffled as its stopping me buying playing I need. About £7.2k Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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