FM08 - F.C Barcelona - Home Of The Spanish Giants

yonko · December 6, 2007

Hey guys, has anyone considered using 3-4-3 with Barca? I'm thinking about creating one as my new challenge next season. Because it looks like I'm gonna win the treble again with 4-4-2 after three successful seasons with variations of 4-3-3.

Here is how I invision the formation:

GK = Valdes

DCR = Ramos

DC = Albiol

DCL = Abidal (he's 31 so I would get Criscito)

WBR = Alves/ or Lahm

WBL = Traore/ or Lahm

MCd = Iniesta

MCa = Fabregas

FCR = Bojan/ Ronaldo

FC = Pato

FCL = Messi/ Dos Santos

Ronaldo and Dos Santos are already accomplished FC's as I like my players to be able to play as many postions as possible.I also have Aguero coming in the summer for $86m and I'm waiting for Vela to sign on a free. Eto'o is going to be transfer listed and hopefully sold then.

The wingbacks will have short farrows and the two side FC's will be with sarrows.What say you?

Doctor Who · December 6, 2007

I've finished 3 seasons with Barca now. I won the title every season and also won CL title in season 2.

I've had succes with a very offensive formation:

GK

DR

DL

DC

MC (with short barrow)

MC (with short farrow)

AMR (with short sarrow towards center)

AML (with short sarrow towards center)

SC

This has worked as a charm using the positional default instructions with few modifications (mostly for the MC's)

It also gives a reasonal amount of appearances for the young talents (dos Santos and Bojan), so they become top class in 2 seasons.

Qeroz · December 9, 2007

Hey guys.

I'm about to start a game playing as Barca. It would be great if anyone could upload a tactic they've enjoyed big success with. Some people might consider this cheating, but my tactics have never worked out very well..

So, is there a tactic that will work great for Barca?

Thanks in advance.

Braaaappppp · December 9, 2007

Hey all!

Just starting a new Barca game. So far investing in youth with Saivet, Wijnaldum and Marcelo all recent signings. In talks with Lahm to be a lenghty replacment for Zambrotta and thinking about signing Menez as cover for my wings! Also keeping a very close eye on Pique may put an offer for him to be a replacemnt for the aging Marquez. So overall im looking to dominate football now and also have enough talent for a few years.

I keep you posted

Braaaappppp · December 9, 2007

Very happy with my preseason buys so far

In:

Saivet-500k-Bordeaux

Marcelo-5.5m-Real Madrid

Wijnaldum-275k-Feyenoord

Pique-11.75m-Man Utd

Lahm-20.5m-FC Bayern

Menez-10.5m-FC Sochaux

Out:

Zambrotta-10.5m-Chelsea

Thuram-Loan-Lyon

So i feel i can quite succsessfully take Barcelona to great and bigger achievements!

Keep you updated on my progress

Mr Everton · December 9, 2007

Originally posted by yonko:
Oh BTW I bought Traore on the last day of January for 100m. upfront + 76m. after 50 league games. The best left back!!!QUOTE]

Don't want to annoy you Yonko but I have just signed Traore on a FREE transfer for start of 2010/2011 season!

I know it wasn't really your 100m you spent but what a waste!

Mr Everton · December 9, 2007

Don't know what I have done there with the quotes thingy but hope you get the drift!

Boab-Hutton · December 10, 2007

I started my barcelona career last week and have just finished my first season

2007/2008 transfers

In:

Marcelo - LB 5.5m Real Madrid

Igor Akinfeev - GK 12.5m CSKA Moscow

Breno - CB 8m sao paolo

Out:

Thiago - Free

Alex Sanchez 40k

Played a 4-3-3

GK-valdez/akinfeev

RB-zambrotta/puyol

LB-abidal/marcelo

CB-millito/thuram

CB-breno/puyol

CM-Toure/deco/dos santos

CM-Xavi/deco/dos santos

CM-Iniesta/deco

FL-Ron/Henry

FC-Eto'o/Bojan/Henry

FR-Messi/Dos Santos

Top Goal Scorer Was Eto'o with 31

Top Assista Was Ron with 19

Highest Average Rating Ron (7.32)

Most M.O.T.M Henry 10

Worst Discipline Iniesta 9 yellows/1 red

Results Won D1 , Champions League bt inter 2-0 And Spanish Cup bet zaragoza 3-1

Very happy with my performaces and the board seemed to agree with a transfer budget of 170m so i decided to make sum changes.

Transfers

In:

Mascherano - DM Free Liverpool

Francesc Fabregas - CM 73m Liverpool

Cristian Zaccardo - RB 15m Palermo

Carlos Tevez - FC 70m Manchester Unites(my ass man said i needed backup for my attack and i thought he was the man for the job)

Total - 158m

Out:

Henry Valencia 17m too old for me

Marquez Real Madrid 7.5m too old

Yaya Toure 11.25m got mascherano on a free so why not

Xavi 17.25m had fabreagas

Gudjohnsen 3.5m didnt feature

Olegur 2.8m didnt featue

Total - 58m

I'm playing the same 4-3-3 and iniesta fabregas and mascherano have been dominating the midfield so far.

i'm excited about this season and ill keep updated

yonko · December 10, 2007

Mr Everton - It's hardly a waste. Traore is the best fullback in my game! When I saw how much he had developed his contract was til 2014. It was in the 3rd season - Pat Rice must've extended Traore's contract when he took over after Wenger left for Inter.

Anyway, here is a little update. I won another treble finishing my 4th season. I have to say, it was the hardest of all. I was changing my formations, experimenting, but still finished La Liga without a lost - 29 wins 9 draws GD= 89-11. Beat Zaragoza 4-1 in the Copa del Rey Final. In the CL Final I won 2-0 against Real. Ronaldo scored both goals. He was amazing this past season - best player in CL. Bojan was my top overall scorer with 33 goals, 21 in La Liga.He was my best player in Spain. The kid is a total monster - best forward in my game!

On the transfer market I got some nice freebies. Krul from Newcastle, Jonathan Evans from Man U, Alfaro from Sevilla and Vela from Arsenal. This guy Alfaro is some freak who has developed very nicely - check him out. He is 24 now and starts at Sevilla B team. He is AMRC,FC and he looks better player than Jesus Navas!

Then I bought some players. Aguero for $86m. (agreed mid-season) and Miguel Torres for $15.75m from Real M. He had a release fee (15.75) and was just negotiating new contract with them. Then I stepped in and stole him away . He is 25 now and I like his versetile attributes. I sold Yaya Toure to Juve for $19m. Moved Puyol, Xavi, Abidal and Eto'o to the B team - don't need them any more.

Started the 5th season by winning the Spanish Supercup vs Zaragoza beating them 4-2 away and 3-1 at home. Aguero scored double in both games. Then won my opening La Liga game vs. Albacete at home - 4-1. Aguero scored 2 again, Bojan and Ronaldo added the others. I'm using 4-4-2 this season, here is the line-up with cover for every position:

GK - 1.Valdes/ 12.Carrizo/Krul

DR - 2.Torres/ 15.Alves

DL - 3.Traore/ 16.Lahm

DC - 4.Ramos/ 21.Valiente (back from loan and awesome!)

DC - 5.Albiol/ 19.Pique

MCd - 8.Iniesta/ 13.Zapater

MCa - 14.Fabregas/ 6.Crossas (also awesome after loan spells)

RW - 7.Ronaldo/ 24.Alfaro

LW - 11.Messi/ 17.Dos Santos

FC - 10.Aguero/ 20.Vela

FC - 9.Bojan/ 18.Pato

Cabral (out on loan again), Evans, Espadrin (awesome, but out on loan again), Piatti and Pozzi stay in my B team. On my shortlist I have only 4 transfer tartgets left - Criscito DLC, Baragan D/WB R, Javi Martinez MC and Giovinco AMLC, FC. Criscito and Giovinco are still at Juve and playing awesome. Baragan is at Newcastle and doing a good job for them. They are going to play in the CL for a second season in a row. Javi Martinez is at Lazio since the second season and looks like great player.

That's it for now.

rune_star · December 11, 2007

Yonko,

I'm pretty sure many people would be interested in trying out your 4-4-2, myself included . Why not make it available for download?

The same actually goes for your original 4-3-3. I'd like to see that in order to compare it with my own, as we've discussed this formation quite a bit earlier in this thread. Enjoyed that a lot!

Mr Everton · December 11, 2007

Yonko - Didn't mean it was a waste as such. Was trying to be clever by saying he cost you $100 million were as I managed to steal him on a free!

Looks quality on my game too - can't wait for him to sign on 1st July.

What do you think of this... Robinho on a free!? His contract is up at the end of the season and in his personal section of his profile it says - "has not ruled out the possibilty of leaving on a bosman".

Have offered him Â£125k a week and 8 million signing-on-fee but he has rejected saying "he wants to explore all options available to him".

Would he become the next "Figo"??

yonko · December 11, 2007

Originally posted by rune_star:
Yonko,

I'm pretty sure many people would be interested in trying out your 4-4-2, myself included . Why not make it available for download?

The same actually goes for your original 4-3-3. I'd like to see that in order to compare it with my own, as we've discussed this formation quite a bit earlier in this thread. Enjoyed that a lot!

Well, first of all I haven't figured out how to upload anything. I need to learn so I can post not only tactics but also screenshots.

Second, when it comes to tactics I might not be the best guy to copy from...There is a reason why I play mostly with the big teams such as Barca. I like making the big superstars I watch on TV play the way I want and also I can have money to make dream teams. So in a nutshell my tactics depend on the players I have and/or can buy!

Third, my current 4-4-2 is still very experimental. The MCd started in the DM position originally. Then that player moved next to the MCa with a little different instructions. Even now as I write this I have an idea how to make it work better and can't wait to play. Maybe that's the secret to my endless (for now ) success - I keep changing my tactics (and sometimes even formation) every 5-10 games. I have the players - they are superstars and very versetile!

In general, every tactic I've made for FM08 so far has individual mentalities in the normal range (most dead center of normal) except the 2DC who are defensive. All my tactics persue the idea of possession and control. I like passing, movement and speed. So these are the players I like. Also I like all my defenders to tackle including the fullbacks - that's why I can't accept Marcelo as DL .

I'll tell you what...let me do some more testing/tweaking of the 4-4-2 and I'll get back to you. I'm forced to use it due to the many quality forwards I have now. So this is new for me. 4-3-3 is my favorite formation - IRL I'm youth soccer coach and I use it with the kids! In the meantime, let's discus...ask me what aspect of it you're interested. If I remember corectly we talked about things in midfield - 2MC's + DM....

yonko · December 11, 2007

Originally posted by Mr Everton:
Yonko - Didn't mean it was a waste as such. Was trying to be clever by saying he cost you $100 million were as I managed to steal him on a free!

Looks quality on my game too - can't wait for him to sign on 1st July.

What do you think of this... Robinho on a free!? His contract is up at the end of the season and in his personal section of his profile it says - "has not ruled out the possibilty of leaving on a bosman".

Have offered him Â£125k a week and 8 million signing-on-fee but he has rejected saying "he wants to explore all options available to him".

Would he become the next "Figo"??

Why do you need Robinho? What players you currently have on your team? What year are you? I think it's better if you get Ramos and later that other guy Torres from them.

IMHO, all you really need to add to your offence is Fabregas, C.Ronaldo and Aguero to replace Eto'o and Henry when they get older. Once I added Ronaldo (Jan. of 2nd season) I didn't need Ronaldinho that much for example. Same happened with Fabregas replacing the need for Deco/Xavi.

Good luck to you though. Update me where you at!

Mr Everton · December 11, 2007

I think it is just the fact of getting him on a free transfer from Madrid! He seems to score every game I look at of Madrid's... Many I don't need him.

My team is on page 3 of this thread...

I'm in February 2010. Have won the treble each year.

I'm going to try and sign Fabregas in the summer. Messi and Navas are playing really well for me so can't justify signing Ronaldo.

Will see what happens...

Will keep you posted!

SkidRo · December 11, 2007

for you barca fans i may have created a great tactic - well it seems so for me give it a try if you like you will need very crerative wingers tho so if you still have the likes of messi and ronaldinho in your team you shud be aight with the tactic

http://community.sigames.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1519717/m/6132002763

Number 7 · December 11, 2007

Can anyone tell me what the Spanish Registration bug is?

yonko · December 12, 2007

Everton, Messi and Ronaldo are my favorite players IRL so for me I had to get them together. Navas may be playing good but you should check that Alfaro (AMRC,FC) guy from Sevilla B team. In my game he seems as very well developed all around midfielder.

Now, about my 4-4-2...it ain't going so well. I'm still winning but I don't like what I see in the 2D screen. I can't find the right balance as I have with the 4-3-3. Last season I tried 3-4-3 (3 DC + 2 WB + 2 MC + 3 FC) for a few games but I didn't like it either. I guess my heart and mind belong to the 4-3-3. At the moment I'm stuck with all this quality players and I don't have a clue how to fit them into a system that will work.

I'm wondering if a hybrid system between 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 will work. Something like this:

------------------GK--------------

-----DR-------DC------DC-------DL

------------------DM-------------

------------------MC-------------

-----AMR-----------------------AML

-------------FC---------FC--------

I'll use my instructions from the 4-3-3 I used the first three seasons and see how it goes and then I'll report back. Damn, I knew I shouldn't have been so greedy buying all this forwards.

teeyougee · December 12, 2007

Originally posted by yonko:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by teeyougee:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Valdes, Ramos, Traore, Albiol, Pique, Iniesta, Fabregas, Ronaldo, Messi, Pato and Bojan. How about that, ah?!

Nice team. But I prefer my 1st 11:

Ustari, Richards, Criscito, Zapata, Albiol, Fabregas, Silva, Ronaldo, Messi, Bojan, Aguero.

Actually, I prefer my sub 11 too:

Akinfeev, Vanden Borre, Clichy, Pique, Kompany, Lucas, Iniesta, G.dos Santos, Ronaldinho, Vela, Saivet.

Come to think of it, my reserve 11 aren't too bad:

Bouzanis, Rafinha, Pander, Garay, Felipe, Banega, Lulinha, Celsinho, M.Fernandez, Balotelli, Gyan </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Buddy, why are you playing Richards and Criscito as full-backs? Aren't they better in the center of defense? I personally like my full-backs to go forward all the time and cross good balls = attacking full-backs. Hence, I think Ramos/Alves on the right and Traore/Lahm on the left is the best in the game. With the players available to you I would line-up like this: Ustari - Rafinha, Clichy, Albiol, Criscito - Lucas, Fabregas, Ronaldo, Silva - Messi, Bojan.

In my game though, Albiol and Pique have formed an amazing partnership in the middle of my defense. But despite that I am think of bringing in Criscito as well. He looks like a monster in 2011! I think it all depends on how these gems develop each game. When I look at a player I'm interested in buying, I pay attention to how good his selected/position specific attributes and current (sometimes also past/history) form are.

On my save, Richards and Zapata have been struggling despite big money moves. Micah moved to Tottenham but they still aren't CL team. Zapata is at Man U partnering Rio insplace of Vidic but his AVR has always been below 7.00

Silva preferred a move to Real M instead of coming to my All-Star team. I guess he was affraid of competing for place with Ronaldo, Messi, Ronaldinho and Dos Santos. The first two of the four mentioned are absolutely 100% better than him anyway. And everyone knows the potential of Giovanni, right?

Anyway, good luck with your team! Let me know how it goes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I know what you mean. I usually play attacking full-backs to get up there and make some crosses etc, but I have a very offensive formation right now, and I don't play a DM so I like to keep my 4 defenders back. This way I concede about a goal every 2 matches, and with my powerful attacking force I score about 3 a game on average. I bought Traore too, so I usually give him and Clichy a match once in a while - but Criscito is a solid defender and he stops the attacks from that wing.

I haven't given Rafinha a match in like 3 seasons. His stats are good, but I would prefer Kompany to play RB if Richards is unavailable. Kompany is quite good at getting up there and helping with attacks, but he's also a solid defender.

I recommend that you do buy Criscito (if you haven't done so already). He really is great and I'm thinking of playing him CB for my 5th season (just noticed a LB regen in my squad that's absolute class and only 20). Although if Albiol and Pique are performing well, you shouldn't waste your money, especially if you can't get him cheap. It might take him a while to settle in, and he might not be as good a partner as the other 2.

Zapata and Richards are performing OK for me, usually getting a rating of 7,1 per season. Yes, Silva is great but I prefer Ronaldo and Messi, they're unstoppable. Silva kinda shines in a couple games, then he's just a guy in the background for a few games. With stats like his, he should be creating havoc every match.

I never usually give Giovanni a 1st team chance. Everyone does say he's great, but his stats don't seem outstanding - or not atm anyway. Maybe he still has some developing to do, but 5 seasons in, he's not one of my top players yet. Then again, the visible stats don't determine everything, and I'm sure if I give him the chance, he might be something special.

Thanks for the advice, and if you bought Criscito, lemme know hw he's doing for you.

SkidRo · December 12, 2007

Originally posted by yonko:
Everton, Messi and Ronaldo are my favorite players IRL so for me I had to get them together. Navas may be playing good but you should check that Alfaro (AMRC,FC) guy from Sevilla B team. In my game he seems as very well developed all around midfielder.

Now, about my 4-4-2...it ain't going so well. I'm still winning but I don't like what I see in the 2D screen. I can't find the right balance as I have with the 4-3-3. Last season I tried 3-4-3 (3 DC + 2 WB + 2 MC + 3 FC) for a few games but I didn't like it either. I guess my heart and mind belong to the 4-3-3. At the moment I'm stuck with all this quality players and I don't have a clue how to fit them into a system that will work.

I'm wondering if a hybrid system between 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 will work. Something like this:

------------------GK--------------

-----DR-------DC------DC-------DL

------------------DM-------------

------------------MC-------------

-----AMR-----------------------AML

-------------FC---------FC--------

I'll use my instructions from the 4-3-3 I used the first three seasons and see how it goes and then I'll report back. Damn, I knew I shouldn't have been so greedy buying all this forwards.

that is exactly the tactic i use you shud check my thread link is little bit up on this page. it works wonders have only lost like 2 games all season and drawn 3/4 and won the rest score 2.9 goals a game and concede rougly 0.6 a game.

Braaaappppp · December 12, 2007

UPDATE:

Bought Rhys Murphy last minute for 800k

2 games in

Almeria 1-2 Barcelona

Barcelona 2-1 Zaragoza

All is going well with Ronaldinho,Eto'o,Henry and Marcelo finding the net so far!

Keep you all updated

SkidRo · December 12, 2007

youve conceded 2 goals in your first 2 games? looks like you could have a tought time especially if you only beat almeria by that much you shud have been at least looking for a 3-0 win at minimum. wat tactics you using?

yonko · December 12, 2007

Originally posted by teeyougee:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by yonko:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by teeyougee:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Valdes, Ramos, Traore, Albiol, Pique, Iniesta, Fabregas, Ronaldo, Messi, Pato and Bojan. How about that, ah?!