zigzag Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I'm having a crack at the demo with Stoke and while the temptation is to rely on set pieces and hoof the ball forward I'm thinking of giving this a go. Here is my squad, do you think it will suceed? Lung Jr/Simonsen Defenders - Ansaldi/Wilkinson - Higginbottom/Collins - Shawcross/Faye/Huth/Davies Midfielders - Bodde/Faye/Schneiderlen - Buonanotte/Etherington/Tonge - Delap/Soares - Tuncay/Dominguez Forwards - Kitson/Chevanton/Beattie(out for 5 mths)/Cresswell I often play Tuncay and/or Dominguez as forwards but who would assign to each role? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Valentino Posted October 22, 2009 Author Share Posted October 22, 2009 I'm having a crack at the demo with Stoke and while the temptation is to rely on set pieces and hoof the ball forward I'm thinking of giving this a go. Here is my squad, do you think it will suceed?Lung Jr/Simonsen Defenders - Ansaldi/Wilkinson - Higginbottom/Collins - Shawcross/Faye/Huth/Davies Midfielders - Bodde/Faye/Schneiderlen - Buonanotte/Etherington/Tonge - Delap/Soares - Tuncay/Dominguez Forwards - Kitson/Chevanton/Beattie(out for 5 mths)/Cresswell I often play Tuncay and/or Dominguez as forwards but who would assign to each role? In midfield I wud have schnederlien or arismendi in DMC - soares, whealen on either side with tonge as back up and wud defitnely have Buonanotte in the advanced playmaker role - wud play beattie (when fit) in complete forward role (right S) and chevanton as poacher ( left S) I wud sell etherington and tuncay and spend it on a left footed midfielder like joe ledley or chris cohen from forest who is quality (but im bias) - let me know how it goes... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigzag Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Thanks mate. Think I will sell Etherington he is very poor, already sold Whealan though! I'll let you know how I get on though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Valentino Posted October 22, 2009 Author Share Posted October 22, 2009 Ran thru demo with West Ham Utd - transfer budget £0 prediction 9th - Green Faubert Illunga Reginusen - cost 350k - worth 20 times this amount Upson DMC - Parker MRC - Noble - 4gls 11assists MC - Jiminez - (loan from Inter) 6gls 2assists MLC - Thomson - 4.4m S - Diamanti - forward 19app 7gls 5assists S - Cole - poacher 19app - 10gls 3 assists Played 19 won 10 d 7 lost 2 - F34 A16 pts 37 - just under 2points a game - not bad for a fairly average team and a lot better than in real life.... Pos 3rd btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Valentino Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 UPDATE: Burton Albion Media Prediction 24th - Budget 50k Ran thru another demo - bought krysiak (gk) 150k cos they had no keeper and id raised some funds, bought some loan players in and used Harrad who is very good at this level but basically kept the nucleas of the team the same... here were the results before my game crashed in december... Played 21 games - won 42pts conceding less than 1 a game - 2nd pos 4 pts clear of notts c in third and was also in FA Cup 3rd Round - I now know that this tactic works at lower league levels and from other ppls results works in european leagues - only thing left to test is whether it can survive "second season syndrome" or SSS but i cant test that in demo tho... Is there anything else ppl would like me to test with this tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amvlad Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Have you tested other Touchline Instructions then the mentioned ones ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Valentino Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 Have you tested other Touchline Instructions then the mentioned ones ? I believe that most of the other touchline instructions would counteract what the team was instructed to do - I always use hassle opponents now to unsettle the other team.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amvlad Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Cool . Anyway, i've been testing your tactic in FML and my team jumps up in rankings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 With the danish club AAB it is also amazing I hope this tac will work in the full version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Valentino Posted October 25, 2009 Author Share Posted October 25, 2009 With the danish club AAB it is also amazingI hope this tac will work in the full version Hope so too, or else its back to the drawing board - luckily im off work friday so that will be my new job for the day if needed... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
11v11 Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 narrow tactics are back again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Valentino Posted October 25, 2009 Author Share Posted October 25, 2009 narrow tactics are back again? Its narrow when the team doesnt have the ball but wider when it does - go to attacking and the full backs overlap giving the width. In other formations my wingers have just not been involved in the game but im sure someone will have it working but I prefer my team to play through the middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roary the Tiger Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Playing with Hull City. Before this I lost my first 4 matches. After I switched to this:- Won Hull 2-0 Sunderland Won Wolves 1 - 2 Hull Won Hull 2 - 0 Brighton (LC) Drew Hull 3 - Arsenal 3 Won Blackburn 0 - Hull 2 Scores loads of goals, this is a great attacking tactic - thanks !!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicForza Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I am currently experimenting with "wingless" tactics. 4-1-3-2, 4-3-1-2, 4-1-3-1-1 & 4-3-2-1. They are all working well, but I am not satisfied with them yet. One thing that has worked very well for me is to use maximun width with passing directed to both flanks. FBs set to fwd runs often & hug touchline. Outside mids (MRC/MLC) set on hugtouch line & roam. This makeks it a wide tactic attacking yet also clogs up the midfield. I also prefer a very high line with offside trap on. This requires speedy DCs. I have found this really keeps the midfield tightly clogged up. And although it is vulnerable to through balls, the DCs usually catch up at least by the edge of the box and have allowed very few quality shots. I do of course play deeper (altough NEVER deep) against very pacey strikers and take off the trap. The outise instructions are the best tactical feature in FM10 for me. I haven't gotten a tactic yet where I am happy with all the positions. 4-3-1-2 and 4-3-2-1 are doing what I want them to fairly well. But am having difficulty getting CM and strikers to combine in 4-1-3-2 (the formation I hope to eventually play). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dankrzyz Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Outside mids (MRC/MLC) set on hugtouch line & roam. This makeks it a wide tactic attacking yet also clogs up the midfield. This is a setting I have not yet tried, but very curious about... I've had trouble getting wide players to consistently move inside and getting inside players to drift out might be more effective in my wingerless formations. Do you find that the MRC/MLC drift in-and-out only during attacking phases? Do they move inside and out defensively, too? Curious to hear more about your experience with this technique. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaadHabib Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Tried this tactic with Arsenal. Thought I'd exploit the fact that Arsenal have no natural wingers and many midfield options. So after 10 premiership games I'm 1st with 7 wins and 3 defeats. The losses have come to Fulham (Away), Man Utd (Away), Stoke (Away). Struggled in the Champions League though with 1 win (against Dynamo Kiev away) and 2 draws (Lyon home, Standard Liege away I think). So yeah, a mixed bag of results, but clinging on to 1st in the premier league so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 anyone tried this tac in the full version (10.0.1) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauvner Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 What Wijnand Fens said also has anybody tried it with Chesterfield in 10.0.1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Valentino Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 Tactic still works very well although i have noticed that some players who were good in the demo r poorer now and vice-versa and there seems 2 be less high scoring games generally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK85 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Tactic still works very well although i have noticed that some players who were good in the demo r poorer now and vice-versa and there seems 2 be less high scoring games generally. Thats because these players attributes are probably randomized at the start of the game you didn't see that in the demo because the demo is basically a save game from what i know the patch didnt have any database changes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Valentino Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 I am working on a version 2 wingless wonders which works better in 10.1update - refining striker roles and defender roles - promising so far - will post later if improvements last... W 4-1 W5-3 W2-0 W4-3 the strikers are defitnely working!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMAC_PSV Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I am working on a version 2 wingless wonders which works better in 10.1update - refining striker roles and defender roles - promising so far - will post later if improvements last...W 4-1 W5-3 W2-0 W4-3 the strikers are defitnely working!! Could you post your tactic and needed info? I'm desperately looking for a solid tactic for my PSV side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamrwood Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Awesome. Only played 2 games, but they were very open. with Leicester I won 4-1 away to Sheff Utd, then 4-2 at home to Barnsley. Plenty of shots for both sides in each game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Valentino Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 version 2 now uploaded in post 1 - left striker is now advanced forward and right defender is now stopper.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBleond Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 it's the same tactic this version 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amvlad Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Yup, it's the same Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Valentino Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 it's the same tactic this version 2 should be there now - V2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBleond Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 thats perfect...10ks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tertziniu Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 it's rocking with inter 12 advantage from second place Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillieHowie Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 This tactic has done wonders for my Lyon team, thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK85 Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Trying your v2 tactic with stockport so far not to good i loose a lot and by a big margin but that may be because stockport is a very poor team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauvner Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Just used your V2 after your V1 managed to get me 3-0 down at half time against Bury. Second half was a improvement still the game ended 3-2 im happy with the fightback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXERTYRE Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Its hard to score with this tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBleond Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 brilliant.testing it in romania 3rd league...1st season finished 8th (media pred 15)...now i am 5th after 15 rounds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F_Torres9 Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 I will try this and let you know my results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trowbridge Owl Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 this tactic is horrendous! Playing as Sheff Wed, so far lost all 3 home games 1-0,3-0,3-0 and lost to Notts Co 4-2 in the league cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaDeathHamster Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Worked pretty well for me so far as Juventus - no signings, won Serie A at the first time of asking and got to the Semi Final of the Champions league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trowbridge Owl Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 ditched it, got sacked just before christmas, bottom of the league! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuczak Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Just finished season with ver. 1 on not patched FM. Chose Rayo Vallecano and finished 9th in Liga Adelante which made boards "extremely happy". Strange cause media predicted that I would finish 7th. Anyway, good tactic but very inconsistent - produced some great away wins including beating Las Palmas (league winners) in front of their fans as well as sloppy home run with draws and losses to teams worse than mine. It could be because I didn't really have a chance to strengthen up my squad. Okay, let's see what 2nd season brings to us, will keep you updated! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
guiness56 Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 so far, so good. played 2 with Luton in the BSP and won 2. 2-0 away win and 4-0 home win. Will update at start of Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauvner Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 After nearly loosing my job to this tactic, my team then go on a 6 game winning streak. I Like the tactic it works at lower level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauvner Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Fa Cup 5th round. I loose against Man Utd 9-0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXERTYRE Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 It is a good tactic now, however I seem to struggle in CL and against top teams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbabes21 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I'm using the 10.1 version. Having some weird outcomes with this tactic. I am managing Hull City and beat Man Utd 4-2 but then struggled to beat Burnley 3-2 and Bolton 1-0. Also tied stoke 3-3. Not sure if it's the tactic to use with Hull City but I will keep experimenting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christop Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Am conceding on average 3.5 goals a game after 12 games played as Birmingham. Not good. Can score a few but concede a ridiculous amount against anybody half decent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tertziniu Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 man i have a problem with corners ...my team doesn't score and doesn't create problems ....i play with inter(Materazzi, Lucio, Samuel)( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Valentino Posted November 1, 2009 Author Share Posted November 1, 2009 man i have a problem with corners ...my team doesn't score and doesn't create problems ....i play with inter(Materazzi, Lucio, Samuel)( My educated guess would be that SI have changed the match engine to stop corner "cheats" like last year. With notts county last year my brazilian CB heading17 jumping 17 got 24 goals for me in one season. I dont think there is a magic formula this year but it is more realistic. BTW: version 3 now uploaded in post 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccgers Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 This formation helped me romp the SPL with Rangers Played 38 Won 32 Drew 4 Lost 2 Scored 104 conceded 26 My Team was: McGregor Whittaker Bougherra Jorgensen Bale (loan) Edu Mendes Deco (£1.1m from Transfer list) Davis Boyd RV Nistelrooy Deco and RVN I got for £1.5m from transfer list and obv were a revelation in the SPL. Have added Caceras, Riquelme and Enyeama in the summer on bosmans and transfer list. What I find is left sided players play better on the right of the 3 mids and vice versa for right footers Great wee tactic Many thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.G.L Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Great tactic. Been looking for a tactic for my Hoffenheim team and this one suits my squad perfectly. Thanks Won all my friendlies. Team can't stop scoring. GK: Hildebrand DL: Eichner DCs: Compper, Simunic DR: Beck DMC: Gustavo MCs: Carlos Eduardo, Sapara, Salihovic Poacher: Obasi Complete FWD: Demba Ba (great for this role) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgsy Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 So far in pre season the tactic seems to be really good with goals. I've noticed that with my Sunderland team that the opposition have most of the possession and chances against me (I'm only playing Southampton) Anyway I can tighten this up a bit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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