HaroldHammond Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 UPDATE: Still a very effective tactic in patch update 15.2.1 DOMINANT 4-3-2-1 Hello! Welcome to my dominant home and away tactic! Some have said the days of plug in a tactic and play are gone, but this tactic says differently. Have you heard of Silkeborg? Nope me neither, until i took control of them 3 seasons ago, and last season we managed to get to the Champions League semi final, beating Arsenal, Dortmund and Juventus in the process. This tactic works home and away, with slight changes to the instructions for each scenario. It uses the wide men to score the goals, with them having the option to cross to your striker, or play in the marauding wing backs. I by no means claim to be a master tactician or a master of FM, so don't read this thinking I am, i have simply tweaked and tweaked this tactic over 3 seasons and now it gives me a complete monopoly in Denmark, and allows me to heavily compete in the CL. Enjoy! The Tactic So this is the base tactic. Normal Goalkeeper 2 Complete Wingbacks 2 Normal Center Defenders on Defend 2 Advanced Playmakers on Attack Central Midfielder on Defend 2 Inside Forwads on Attack 1 False Nine One of the Center backs can be used as a Ball player if you wish, i used to use it, but sold the defender that played the role and therefore switched back. The Central Midfielder can be a Ball Winning Midfielder too, i used to use this also, which worked brilliantly but i feel the Central Midfielder allows my CM to use his passing ability slightly more, so switched to this instead, he gets better ratings with this role by far. The false nine can also be a complete forward, but i haven't found the right striker so far to fit this role. Team Instructions And for away games: Can use look for overlap if you wish, but my full backs are complete wingbacks and do this anyway, i felt that having this instruction used, my inside forwards looked for my wing backs just a little too much. For me 'Be more expressive' is the most important instruction, i want my 2 AP's to have complete freedom to express themselves, same with my inside forwards, and trust me, they do. Player Instructions I tried to keep these on the downlow but realized that more doesn't necessarily mean bad. Goalkeeper: Distribute to fullbacks, pass it shorter, Fewer risky passes CWB: Fewer Risky passes, Run wide with ball CB: Mark Tighter, pass it shorter CM: Close down much more, mark tighter, tackle harder, pass it shorter AP: Close down more, get further forward, more direct passes IF: None, they just do what they want to great success F9: Roam from position These can be changed to suit your players. Results This one surprised me.. Unfortunately lost in Semi final Some fixture sheets: And then this, the mother of all games, happened this season in the CL: 6-0 up in the first 25 minutes, away to Benfica.. So there you have it! Bearing in mind my philosophy with Silkeborg is to bring youth through, by playing them regularly in the first team, my main starting 11 in my CL semi final season included: 19 Year old keeper, 19 year old CB, 20 year old CWB, 17/19/19 year old Central Mids, 18 year old F9, so this tactic could be even better with a more experienced, developed side. Was it Alan Hansen who once said 'You can't win anything with kids'? Pfft. DOWNLOAD : https://www.mediafire.com/?vs632m5a29hz8xm http://www75.zippyshare.com/v/32551428/file.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky33 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 where is the link to share it ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calpol19 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Got a link? And do you use any OI? Would love to give this a try Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaroldHammond Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 Got a link? And do you use any OI? Would love to give this a try where is the link to share it ? I have just added a download link As for OI, i let me assistant manager select them, however make sure he has high JPA and Tactical knowledge if you let him do this. If they use a lone striker i select all of the possible OI on him, to try and isolate him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky33 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I will test Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
penza Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 its really easy to export your tactic would be great! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky33 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 do you have screeen of yours games ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaroldHammond Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 its really easy to export your tactic would be great! Just done it mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaroldHammond Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 do you have screeen of yours games ? You mean a screenie of my fixtures? They are in the thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apophis85 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 hey i wanna try ya tactic any chance can i download it another way. i cant download from mediafire for some reason thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaroldHammond Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 hey i wanna try ya tactic any chance can i download it another way. i cant download from mediafire for some reason thanks. http://www75.zippyshare.com/v/32551428/file.htmltry this mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juvito2k Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 team instructons screenshots doesnt work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apophis85 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 thanks mate appreciated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaroldHammond Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 team instructons screenshots doesnt work What do you mena? I can see them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juvito2k Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 What do you mena? I can see them i cant see "team instructions" and for "away games" please fix edit "This one surprised me.. Unfortunately lost in Semi final " doesnt work for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaroldHammond Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 i cant see "team instructions" and for "away games" please fixedit "This one surprised me.. Unfortunately lost in Semi final " doesnt work for me. I don't know what to suggest mate i can see them just fine? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juvito2k Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I don't know what to suggest mate i can see them just fine? write down team instructions or upload away tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaroldHammond Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 write down team instructions or upload away tacticaway tactic is exactly the same just with these instructions added: Close down much more, get stuck in, tighter marking, much lower tempo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaroldHammond Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 write down team instructions or upload away tacticaway tactic is exactly the same just with these instructions added: Close down much more, get stuck in, tighter marking, much lower tempo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juvito2k Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 thank you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaroldHammond Posted November 18, 2014 Author Share Posted November 18, 2014 thank you! No worries Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeesusChrist Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 2 Questions Harold, Opposite foot for each side? Do any positions require Pace? I'm going to try it with Leeds but I have Warnock at LB, Also these questions depend on who I try and sign for the Wings! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaroldHammond Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 2 Questions Harold, Opposite foot for each side? Do any positions require Pace? I'm going to try it with Leeds but I have Warnock at LB, Also these questions depend on who I try and sign for the Wings! Nope opposite foot is not essential, and i'd say have some pace at full back and inside forward if you can, if not doesn't really matter but do try and bring someone in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehanson Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Harrold, The download link you provided - was that for just the 'Home' tactic? I ain't at home at the moment so will download later and try it out, looks good, well done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaroldHammond Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 Harrold,The download link you provided - was that for just the 'Home' tactic? I ain't at home at the moment so will download later and try it out, looks good, well done. Yes it's just the home tactic, but the away tactic is the exact same, just with the adition of those 4 team instructions, which you can set as a preset and just switch between the 2, recently however i've just been going with the home instructions, both home and away, and it's working fine. I do however go with the away instructions when playing away in the CL against big teams.Thank you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iolodavanki Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Impressive results, but the real question is on which version of FM15 they were achieved. The Benfica game, was it on 15.1.3? If yes, are you sure? I was cruising on 15.1.1 etc, but 15.1.3 hit me hard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavinkil Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Seems like a fairly solid tactic so far, are there any suggested type of players for the specific positions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaroldHammond Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 Impressive results, but the real question is on which version of FM15 they were achieved. The Benfica game, was it on 15.1.3? If yes, are you sure? I was cruising on 15.1.1 etc, but 15.1.3 hit me hard. i've used it on every version so far, the benfica game was on 15.1.3 i believe, but all versions this has worked for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaroldHammond Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 Seems like a fairly solid tactic so far, are there any suggested type of players for the specific positions? The inside forwards are crucial, you want them to have good finishing and long shots, and dribbling is nice, your Central midfielder on defend is important too, Work rate, strength and tackling are big stats for him, and then finally you want your full backs to have good crossing, this helps a lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeesusChrist Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I had to manually enter the tactic in due to the game crashing after putting the file on, what settings do you have for set pieces may I ask? would Warnock be good enough with his 11 pace? 13 acceleration mind, his 18 stamina is something I like as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaroldHammond Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 I had to manually enter the tactic in due to the game crashing after putting the file on, what settings do you have for set pieces may I ask? would Warnock be good enough with his 11 pace? 13 acceleration mind, his 18 stamina is something I like as wellAh im sorry to hear that I have attack the near post, and with defending i have 3 marking 6 yard box, centre backs on tall players and full backs on post, 2 stay forward. Yeah i'd say thats okay for Warnock, what's his crossing like? thats the main one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeesusChrist Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 crossing is 12, who is attacking the near post please mate? I assume you mean the 3 CMs marking the 6 yard box? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dupie1980 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I think its a great formation, +1 and thanks for sharing this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaroldHammond Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 crossing is 12, who is attacking the near post please mate? I assume you mean the 3 CMs marking the 6 yard box?yeah sounds good, should work, if not just get someone else in near post is one of my center backs, however i am considering putting my striker there.. Yeah the 3 cms are on the 6 yard box, doesn't always work but seems to have toned down the goals conceded from them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaroldHammond Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 I think its a great formation, +1 and thanks for sharing this. Yeah i think the main reason i love this is the formation looks great on the tactics screen haha, no problem! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dupie1980 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Yeah i think the main reason i love this is the formation looks great on the tactics screen haha, no problem! HAHAHA, i made 1 adjust to the keeper, just added distribute to fullbacks and it works like a charm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaroldHammond Posted November 19, 2014 Author Share Posted November 19, 2014 HAHAHA, i made 1 adjust to the keeper, just added distribute to fullbacks and it works like a charm. that is on there anyway mate! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiinted Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 so how is everyone doing with this tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaroldHammond Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 so how is everyone doing with this tactic? Well i've just finished another season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeesusChrist Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Well a very promising start Harold I have to say. I've tried about 6 tactics so far and against Millwall in the first game of the season I've lost 3 times, drawn twice and won once, the once been the last tactic I used - we won against the run of play 1-0 with the last kick so we were lucky. With your tactic we won 4-0, 2 pens mind, but the big test believe it or not is a League 1 Scunthorpe that we have not beaten using any tactic previous, the best I've done is extra time but lost in that - so we shall see? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeesusChrist Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 We won 3-1, finally! 3-0 up when they scored a late consolation! another pen again but on the whole seems great, tough tests next v boro, brighton and watford. especially watford! I did fear we were going to lose though in this game, we hit the woodwork 4 times before we scored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikker Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Was struggeling alot with my PSG side first season (no transfers) tried a lot of tactics for the forum and tweeking but nothing was working. Started a new game with Milan... Only thing i've done is to add PPM's to player: Inside forwards: Moves into channels, Cuts inside, Refrain from taking longshots Midterfield: Moves into channels, Plays-one-two, Refrain for taking longshots Traning: Followed the OP Tactic needs time to gel and players need to be trained to tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyalan Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Hi I gave this a go with my Bristol Rovers team, we had started to struggle with my 4-1-4-1 formation and the board was getting restless so I thought what do i have to lose (well my job obviously). Anyway check out the six games before and after the change. So thank you for the tactic it has worked great so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnyball Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 How does the tactic perform defensively against good opposition? From what I can see you've just 3 players defense minded so when you're WBs bomb on your susceptible to counter attacks down the wings (an issue I'm trying to address with my tactics at the moment) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeesusChrist Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I'm having mixed results. Since Scunthorpe: - Boro H 0-1 Brighton H 4-0 Watford A 0-2 Tranmere H 3-0 Bolton H 0-1 very inconsistent it seems for me at the minute, my team in case it's the players is as follows:- GK Andre Hansen DR Byram/Berardi DRC Bellusci DLC Pearce DL Warnock RCM Sloth/Adryan CM Bianchi/Austin LCM Mowatt/Murphy AMR Miroslav Stevanovic/Antenucci AML Lepiller/Ezequiel - Lepiller injured for 3 month during Watford game, Doukara filling in as rotater SC Nong/Sharp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaroldHammond Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 How does the tactic perform defensively against good opposition? From what I can see you've just 3 players defense minded so when you're WBs bomb on your susceptible to counter attacks down the wings (an issue I'm trying to address with my tactics at the moment) Well atm i've created a monopoly in denmark so there aren't really any major tests for me, but as for CL games, i've played Dortmund Arsenal Juve Benfica and it tends to do okay, but the idea mainly is to outscore the opposition i think, that's what this does, however if you're defence is good statistically then it does well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaroldHammond Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 I'm having mixed results. Since Scunthorpe: -Boro H 0-1 Brighton H 4-0 Watford A 0-2 Tranmere H 3-0 Bolton H 0-1 very inconsistent it seems for me at the minute, my team in case it's the players is as follows:- GK Andre Hansen DR Byram/Berardi DRC Bellusci DLC Pearce DL Warnock RCM Sloth/Adryan CM Bianchi/Austin LCM Mowatt/Murphy AMR Miroslav Stevanovic/Antenucci AML Lepiller/Ezequiel - Lepiller injured for 3 month during Watford game, Doukara filling in as rotater SC Nong/Sharp Try and let it get to fluid, once you're there it's just plain sailing for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdJames Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Given that it's EXACTLY the same, I can't help but think this is a complete rip of my 433 SchemeServe. You've even selected the exact same player positions (which were pretty odd combinations considering what theory dictates). The only slight tweak is a switch from wing back to complete wing back, otherwise exactly the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaroldHammond Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 Given that it's EXACTLY the same, I can't help but think this is a complete rip of my 433 SchemeServe. You've even selected the exact same player positions (which were pretty odd combinations considering what theory dictates). The only slight tweak is a switch from wing back to complete wing back, otherwise exactly the same. Sorry Ed but i hadn't even seen your tactic, this tactics was made (not posted) in the early days of the beta, so having just looked at yours (looks nice btw) I can see it was made before you posted yours. Also the 3 player roles in midfield, are all different, and these 3 (as you probably know) play a major role in dictating the tactic. Your team instructions tell your team to play a higher tempo, push higher up and exploit the middle, 3 things that i tell my team to do the opposite.. So no i don't really think they are the same Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeesusChrist Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Ok harold I will give it until its fluid, just annoying cause on one of the others I beat Bolton 6-1 so to lose feels like a real kick in the teeth! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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