pele10 Posted April 1, 2008 Author Share Posted April 1, 2008 is it possible with the tactical limitations to get Ronaldo to play on fm as he does in real life? he's a winger who sets up a lot of goals and scores loads the goal tonight aggainst Roma tonight is that possible on the fm match enguine? 1. i've never seen one of my players run 35+ yards to get on the end of a header. 2. tried free role and swap which he does with man utd but makes no difference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pele10 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 is it possible with the tactical limitations to get Ronaldo to play on fm as he does in real life? he's a winger who sets up a lot of goals and scores loads the goal tonight aggainst Roma tonight is that possible on the fm match enguine? 1. i've never seen one of my players run 35+ yards to get on the end of a header. 2. tried free role and swap which he does with man utd but makes no difference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 Actually he doesn't set up that many goals, this season he has only made 6 goals for other players. And he didn't run that far "just to get on the end of a header", he moved forward and as the cross was delivered he ran onto it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abs_UK Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 i also think its got to do with players movements, some players like to arrive in the box late and get end of passes and crosses.. Side note: What a goal by Ronaldo today, everytime i watch it, it looks better.. Too bad his real life performance dont reflect on the game.. he does not score many goals for me.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pele10 Posted April 1, 2008 Author Share Posted April 1, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tomtuck01: Actually he doesn't set up that many goals, this season he has only made 6 goals for other players. And he didn't run that far "just to get on the end of a header", he moved forward and as the cross was delivered he ran onto it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> did you not watch the game? 30+ yards to score Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 Im sorry, but no. No one, ever, runs 30 yards just to win a header. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pele10 Posted April 1, 2008 Author Share Posted April 1, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Abs_UK: i also think its got to do with players movements, some players like to arrive in the box late and get end of passes and crosses.. Side note: What a goal by Ronaldo today, everytime i watch it, it looks better.. Too bad his real life performance dont reflect on the game.. he does not score many goals for me.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> i could'nt agree more mate i just think the limitations of the fm tactical enguine stop us from letting a player do these things... granted if someone posted my wingers score 40+ goals a season it would look wrong but this guy is out of this world... show me another player that can do what he does Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pele10 Posted April 1, 2008 Author Share Posted April 1, 2008 he did tonight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 So you're trying to tell me that from 30 yards away he knew a cross would come him so he ran to an exact point to get the header? Pull the other one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pele10 Posted April 1, 2008 Author Share Posted April 1, 2008 yip watch it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abs_UK Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tomtuck01: So you're trying to tell me that from 30 yards away he knew a cross would come him so he ran to an exact point to get the header? Pull the other one! </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Did you actually watch the game?? Maybe he did not run into the box for the header, but when paul scholes received the ball Ronaldo was 30 yards away.. So if he was 30 yards away then it would seem like he ran into the box and got on the end of the cross... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pele10 Posted April 1, 2008 Author Share Posted April 1, 2008 cheers abs i thought the beers had taken control Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abs_UK Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 and not only Ronaldo who does this, a lot of players from other teams also do this, make late runs into the box and get onto the end of a pass or cross... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 Well looking at what I have seen, it seems that when the pass was played towards Scholes he was 30 yards from goal, at the point of Scholes actually touching the ball, (thus recieving it), Ronaldo was actually just outside the "D", which is around 20 tards. Me thinks 30yards is somewhat exaggerated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 lol tards, whoops! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abs_UK Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 maybe but when scholes takes a touch you do not see Ronaldo in the shoot.. (Well i did not) Lets take this into off topic where there is a thread on the game.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pele10 Posted April 1, 2008 Author Share Posted April 1, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tomtuck01: lol tards, whoops! </div></BLOCKQUOTE> so because you wont belive what Ronaldo, done now it's about how many yards did he run... get over it name a better player in the world mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pele10: is it possible with the tactical limitations to get Ronaldo to play on fm as he does in real life? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Not sure about on FM08, but on FM07 he banged in loads of goals in a season for me. I used a 4-1-2-2-1 system with Carlos Tevez on the left wing cutting in, Wayne Rooney on the right wing cutting in, and Ronaldo as the central attacker. I had Ronaldo swap position with Rooney and set Tevez also to swap position with Ronaldo. He got many goals that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pele10: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tomtuck01: lol tards, whoops! </div></BLOCKQUOTE> so because you wont belive what Ronaldo, done now it's about how many yards did he run... get over it name a better player in the world mate </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abs_UK Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 i think we should bring this topic back on track.. If people want to talk about Ronaldo then Off Topic would be best place.. Is it possible to get players doing the same thing on FM.. If you have midfielders who like to make late runs into the box and set up your formation to allow them that little freedom then maybe it can be done.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pele10 Posted April 1, 2008 Author Share Posted April 1, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Abs_UK: i think we should bring this topic back on track.. If people want to talk about Ronaldo then Off Topic would be best place.. Is it possible to get players doing the same thing on FM.. If you have midfielders who like to make late runs into the box and set up your formation to allow them that little freedom then maybe it can be done.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> totally agree i always play as man utd and Ronaldo always plays well just nothing like in real life. i cant see how with si set up he could get into the goal scoring positions like in real life Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abs_UK Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by pele10: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Abs_UK: i think we should bring this topic back on track.. If people want to talk about Ronaldo then Off Topic would be best place.. Is it possible to get players doing the same thing on FM.. If you have midfielders who like to make late runs into the box and set up your formation to allow them that little freedom then maybe it can be done.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> totally agree i always play as man utd and Ronaldo always plays well just nothing like in real life. i cant see how with si set up he could get into the goal scoring positions like in real life </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Play him behind the striker, with a lot of attacking / creative freedom.. I use to have Kaka in that position and he scored a lot of goals for me.. Now i found my self a gem of a player (regen) and he is scoring for fun.. Bed time now me thinks.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bermybhoy Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 I tend to play a flat 4-4-2 and find my wingers score a fair few from headers, latching onto the other winger's crosses...is that what th OP was driving at? I think it's worth saying that in real life this guy is far better at it that you could reasonably expect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pele10 Posted April 1, 2008 Author Share Posted April 1, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bermybhoy: I tend to play a flat 4-4-2 and find my wingers score a fair few from headers, latching onto the other winger's crosses...is that what th OP was driving at? I think it's worth saying that in real life this guy is far better at it that you could reasonably expect. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> i think you have a point there mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 The original question was a good one. It doesn't happen in FM. To my mind, a combination of creative freedom and free role should render this possible - the free role function in particular is a bit baffling and could perhaps be worked on for FM09. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomis07 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bermybhoy: I tend to play a flat 4-4-2 and find my wingers score a fair few from headers, latching onto the other winger's crosses...is that what th OP was driving at? I think it's worth saying that in real life this guy is far better at it that you could reasonably expect. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I play a 4-2-3-1, with the 3 attacking midfielders behind the strikers but with the left and right of the three pushing out onto the wings. Both wingers get a good few goals for me and have a lot of opportunities in the box. Now when buying a winger I also look at finishing and heading as important factors, as they get on the end of each others crosses and get plenty of chances in the box. That's as close to Ronaldo as I can think i've ever seen in the game lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riza Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 In FM07, I had Matias Fernandez who played for my Heerenveen team, and I kept switching him between AMC and Winger positions and this is exactly what I had got out of him; the form of C. Ronaldo in real life. Every game he was scoring a goal, or setting up a goal. He won us the Eredivise title for a few consecutive seasons. I'm yet to sign him again and see if I can repeat the honor but it was for sure the best player I've ever signed in FM. I don't remember much about the tactical side of things, but I do remember that it was a simple 4-4-2 formation with one of the midfielders pushed up into the centre behind the 2 forwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam_everton89 Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Silva Thats the best I've had out of a winger had him playing AML closest in game I've seen to Ronaldo IRL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
backpackant Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">i always play as man utd and Ronaldo always plays well just nothing like in real life. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> To all the statements on this thread like the one quoted here: this season may well be a one-off for him. If he performs like this every year for 3 years then SI will have to do something. I think he performs on the game in line with how he has over the 3 seasons he has been at Man U, with this season being a complete freak. Remember the ex-genius Ronaldinho? Two untouchable seasons and this year he ain't the god we thought he was. As for getting Ronaldo to play as he does in real life, I don't think any player on SI does that and never will - simply because of the limitations of, well, real life. Schevchenko was a God on FM07, and Crespo on 06, because they can only base their skill on what has gone by. Hopefully they won't make him untouchable for FM09 cos I never play as Man U and will hate to play against him. Perhaps SOME increase in ability, but not to the degree they bumped Elano up on 802. You can retrain Ronaldo so his position is AMC/R/L/Fwd and use arrows to encourage him in off the wing. If SI sort out the "free" role, this may help too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeves Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 its because he doesn't really play as a winger. remember, he's only gotten around 5 assists this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarz Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by backpackant: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">i always play as man utd and Ronaldo always plays well just nothing like in real life. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> To all the statements on this thread like the one quoted here: this season may well be a one-off for him. If he performs like this every year for 3 years then SI will have to do something. I think he performs on the game in line with how he has over the 3 seasons he has been at Man U, with this season being a complete freak. Remember the ex-genius Ronaldinho? Two untouchable seasons and this year he ain't the god we thought he was. As for getting Ronaldo to play as he does in real life, I don't think any player on SI does that and never will - simply because of the limitations of, well, real life. Schevchenko was a God on FM07, and Crespo on 06, because they can only base their skill on what has gone by. Hopefully they won't make him untouchable for FM09 cos I never play as Man U and will hate to play against him. Perhaps SOME increase in ability, but not to the degree they bumped Elano up on 802. You can retrain Ronaldo so his position is AMC/R/L/Fwd and use arrows to encourage him in off the wing. If SI sort out the "free" role, this may help too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Bearing in mind the way he played last season, this season isn't a one-off. It's a "two-off"! He is, by far, the best player the world has seen in recent years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo-Bongo Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Schwarz: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by backpackant: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">i always play as man utd and Ronaldo always plays well just nothing like in real life. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> To all the statements on this thread like the one quoted here: this season may well be a one-off for him. If he performs like this every year for 3 years then SI will have to do something. I think he performs on the game in line with how he has over the 3 seasons he has been at Man U, with this season being a complete freak. Remember the ex-genius Ronaldinho? Two untouchable seasons and this year he ain't the god we thought he was. As for getting Ronaldo to play as he does in real life, I don't think any player on SI does that and never will - simply because of the limitations of, well, real life. Schevchenko was a God on FM07, and Crespo on 06, because they can only base their skill on what has gone by. Hopefully they won't make him untouchable for FM09 cos I never play as Man U and will hate to play against him. Perhaps SOME increase in ability, but not to the degree they bumped Elano up on 802. You can retrain Ronaldo so his position is AMC/R/L/Fwd and use arrows to encourage him in off the wing. If SI sort out the "free" role, this may help too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Bearing in mind the way he played last season, this season isn't a one-off. It's a "two-off"! He is, by far, the best player the world has seen in recent years. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> *cough* Zidane *cough* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Zidane hasn't played for 2 seasons, and was pretty poo for his last 2 seasons of professional football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo-Bongo Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Still doesn't change the fact that he is by far the best player the world has seen in recent years. Ronaldo's got to do exceptionally well for more then just two seasons before he is comparable to the likes of Zidane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Well thats alright then...............I never thought as much as everyone else did about Zidane anyway. Rivaldo and Ronaldo, (the large one), in their pomp were both much better in my opinion. But this is now going off topic................. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disasterd Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Abs_UK: Too bad his real life performance dont reflect on the game.. he does not score many goals for me.. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> yep i agree he doesnt play like the ronaldo i see on tv i think its simply down to his attributes not representing how he is on real life i hope for fm09 he stats are improved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by disasterd: i think its simply down to his attributes not representing how he is on real life </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I don't know,apart from his heading and free kick stats, I think his stats are just about right on FM08. I think it's just that this season has been sensational for the boy. I mean 36 goals in 39 appearances is amazing. He doesn't do that in FM because it's a one off to have a season as good as this in real life. Last seasons 23 in 53 appearances was excellent, as it would be on FM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew bowditch Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 i have roaldo playing like he does in real life, i sed a tactic i found on the forums, its a simple 442 diamond with farrows from DM and AM and barrows from LB and RB, ronny plays AMC for me and is on a goal a game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitja Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 only things why he can't be good in FM like IRE is becouse wingers are CRAP in this match engine (if you play any standard formation like AI does. 442, 433...). no real danger, just standing there in the flank. other maybe not so important is becouse his stats don't replicate his real life ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathxxx Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 I've actually got Cristiano Ronaldo playing on the right wing with a long farrow and he's my top scorer at the moment with 16/16. Some are free-kicks and a couple of penalties, but most are from open play. He is set with higher creative freedom than any other player in the team, forward runs often, run with ball often, long shots medium, attacking mentality really high. This is in a 4-4-1-1 formation. United-4-1-3-1-1 v1 (8.0.1) - Tweeked with home & away tactics by heathxxx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by liam_everton89: Silva Thats the best I've had out of a winger had him playing AML closest in game I've seen to Ronaldo IRL </div></BLOCKQUOTE> yup - I've got them BOTH - one on each wing, swapping positions. murder! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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