mattbuck Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Hi guys. I'm back with a new potent formation. 4-3-3/4-5-1. Setup using my own mentality. (Matt's Mentality settings) For the time being i have moved away from the stopper/cover defence setup, and have gone for a more solid and structual approach. Them team is now split into very broad mentality structures. The GK, Dual DC's and DMC are responsible only for the defence phase of play. The DL/DR and MCR (playmaker) are responsible for only the transition phases. The MCL (attacking central midfielder) AML/AMR and SC are resonsible for the attacking phase. This setup results in a ton of clear cut chances every game, domination of play and surprisingly effective passing using direct passing. The defence phase will aim to recycle possession to the transition phase, the transition phases will look for runners high up the pitch with swift direct passing. There are a few keys areas of the pitch where you need the right players to get the most out of the formation. The MCR is your playmaker, and will need to be your creative player. The AMR needs to be very quick, and have good dribbling skills. The AML will get on the end of a lot of crosses, so ideally have someone who is good in the air here and he will rack up a lot of goals. The MCL will get forward whenever possible, so think of this as your goal scoring midfielder. The striker first will need to be quick, and have good off the ball, from time to time he will need to hold up the ball so if he has a little strength that would help too. This is a one size fits all tactic for now. It seems to work against any opposition, be it small or large. If needed you can always change the defensive line, width etc to suit who you are playing. With regards to OI's i tend to use show onto weaker foot for all AI players excluding defenders, unless they have strong as a weaker foot. Formation Download Links Download Links http://www.sendspace.com/file/13iuq8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooney_08 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 got any results using this mate ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuck Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 got any results using this mate ? Domination and raping of teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Looks good mate. I see its only one tactic this time. If you could post more screens, (table, results) would be great. KUTGW mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuck Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 Looks good mate. I see its only one tactic this time. If you could post more screens, (table, results) would be great. KUTGW mate Yes they will come in time mate. I've had such good results with this formation against a vareity of teams that only one tactic is needed. As i said people can always play with the defence line and width against really good teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuck Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 Some screens as promised. I am going to score a serious amount of goals this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandi Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I had to push the wingers up to striker positions, because I have no wingers in my team, but I'm giving it a shot and it's working pretty well so far. I've only played three games yet, but I've dominated all of them, only conceded from a stupid penalty and had lots of chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuck Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 I had to push the wingers up to striker positions, because I have no wingers in my team, but I'm giving it a shot and it's working pretty well so far. I've only played three games yet, but I've dominated all of them, only conceded from a stupid penalty and had lots of chances. Lol good to hear, time to buy some wingers though me thinks so they can help out in defence a little. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
harandil Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Sitting 3rd as Deportivo 1st season atm, in start of february, only buying Yaya Sanogo, dont really have any money ;b, looks good so far, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuck Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 Sitting 3rd as Deportivo 1st season atm, in start of february, only buying Yaya Sanogo, dont really have any money ;b, looks good so far, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryan Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Hi Matt, how does this compare to your 442 (which I am using right now)? Also, would this work with an EPL side? Any tweaks for bigger teams? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuck Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 Hi Matt, how does this compare to your 442 (which I am using right now)?Also, would this work with an EPL side? Any tweaks for bigger teams? This is a completley different tactic from my 4-4-2 set. I just wanted to share a nice alternative to my other tactic, using a much more rigid approach to mentality. Also i believe this to be a tactic for the 'lazy' manager that doesn't like to change things around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacanda2 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 hi matt, do u thingh can work in italy? i'm gonna start with fiorentina....also did u put players on the playmaker list? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuck Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 hi matt, do u thingh can work in italy? i'm gonna start with fiorentina....also did u put players on the playmaker list? I don't see any reason why it can't work in any league. But to get the best out of it you need a few players that i mentioned in the first post. And yes, tick the playmaker box and put in your playmaker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuck Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 Screens In the game against bolton i fielded my second team, was leading 1-0 for 60 minutes of the game. Then they scored two quick goals and heads dropped. My Attacking midfielder left. Pay attention to his jumping attribute, and his goals and average rating. AML is not his natural position, but he keeps arriving at the far post and getting on the end of crosses. My attacking midfielder right. The real pace and explosive dribbler. Constantly getting behind the defensive line on the right, shooting or putting in crosses. My striker, not totally blended into my team yet but hes quality. There is more to come from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattycrewefc Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Hey Mattbuck like the look of your tactic so im gonna give it a go with crewe, do you think clayton donaldson will be any good uprfont or do you think i need to buy someone else and did you play brandy on the right wing all the time because ive signed him an it looks like he banged in alot of goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuck Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 Hey Mattbuck like the look of your tactic so im gonna give it a go with crewe, do you think clayton donaldson will be any good uprfont or do you think i need to buy someone else and did you play brandy on the right wing all the time because ive signed him an it looks like he banged in alot of goals. Dude, play brandy on the right. Train him up as an AMR, he will dominate all teams in this position. He will create, he will score. He will also blast a lot of shots over the bar, but he gets so many chances he gets it right sooner or later. Just took a look at Donaldson, cant see all his ratings but he looks perfect. Who do you plan on using for the playmaker and AML? A handy trick would be to give your playmaker 'tries killer balls often'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattycrewefc Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Was gonna use ashley westwood because hes my favorite player along wid donaldson but he dont have that good creativity so do you think i should buy someone else and guess ill try and find someone tall for aml, do you think i should recall zola from burton because hes tall but he hasnt got much pace, hes a striker but ill learn him to play there, and brandy always used to do that on my old save think its mostly because of his crap composure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuck Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 Was gonna use ashley westwood because hes my favorite player along wid donaldson but he dont have that good creativity so do you think i should buy someone else and guess ill try and find someone tall for aml, do you think i should recall zola from burton because hes tall but he hasnt got much pace, hes a striker but ill learn him to play there, and brandy always used to do that on my old save think its mostly because of his crap composure. Westwood looks a perfect player for playmaker. As for AML, not sure about zola. I'd go for one of these two players (if they will join you) Kieran Djillall - season long loan from crytsal palace, if he rejects try 6-7month loan. Enoch Showunmi - bacckup player at Tranmere so a good chance they will sell him. Try to get Oliver Norwood on loan from man utd, he would be a perfect playmaker for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuck Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 Getting the most out of this formation Start of Pre-Season. Put match prep at 100% until you see this level of fluid on my tactic. Once that is at fluid, check team talk feedback. Once you see "The players are blending well" you can put match prep down to 10% and leave it there forever. Until these two conditions have been met you will never get 100% best possible results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattycrewefc Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Cheers for the advice i will try and get those players you mentioned and ill let you know how im getting on in january half season report. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuck Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 Cheers for the advice i will try and get those players you mentioned and ill let you know how im getting on in january half season report. Oh you tease, how about a quarter season report? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattycrewefc Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 ok m8 ill report how im getting on after 12 games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law_Man Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Getting the most out of this formationStart of Pre-Season. Put match prep at 100% until you see this level of fluid on my tactic. Once that is at fluid, check team talk feedback. Once you see "The players are blending well" you can put match prep down to 10% and leave it there forever. Until these two conditions have been met you will never get 100% best possible results. MAtt once you are at that stage, do you then change the special focus areas from none to team blend to aid team blending? And then onces the team is blended, do you then change the special focus area again? If so, what to? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuck Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 MAtt once you are at that stage, do you then change the special focus areas from none to team blend to aid team blending? And then onces the team is blended, do you then change the special focus area again? If so, what to?Thanks Once formation is at fluid and your assistant says your team is blending well i leave it on none, and at 10%. This will ensure you players start spending most of their time training and reaching their potential. Once they are blending well they can blend even more over time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsum Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Big fan of your last tactic, but as a self confessed lazy manager this sounds like a nice alternative, I like the idea of the system too. I wish I had spotted it before starting my Championship season, but i'm going to introduce it to my match preperation and give it a go once my team are comfortable with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuck Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 Big fan of your last tactic, but as a self confessed lazy manager this sounds like a nice alternative, I like the idea of the system too. I wish I had spotted it before starting my Championship season, but i'm going to introduce it to my match preperation and give it a go once my team are comfortable with it. Glad to hear it mate, let me know how you get on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law_Man Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I think I'll do the none and 10% once the team blend says developed a good understanding as I believe team blend is just as important as tactic "blend". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuck Posted March 26, 2011 Author Share Posted March 26, 2011 I think I'll do the none and 10% once the team blend says developed a good understanding as I believe team blend is just as important as tactic "blend". Furry muffington. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuck Posted March 27, 2011 Author Share Posted March 27, 2011 Any feedback guys? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tha Real behanger Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 I am playing with Ajax amsterdam. This my league table right now: We aint scoring allot but also aint conceding allot. I am trying to make it more attacking to get more goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuck Posted March 27, 2011 Author Share Posted March 27, 2011 ^^ Wow thats impressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacanda2 Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 matt great tactic....is still going well with fiorentina second year i'm in 5 th position...i found problems away...can u suggest me some tweaks? tank's a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuck Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 You can always tweak the defensive line and width as i mentioned earlier mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tha Real behanger Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I have just finished my season, I havent lost a game but still didnt score allot. I am now tweaking it a bit hoping that I score more and still concede allmost nothing. This is the table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuck Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 I have just finished my season, I havent lost a game but still didnt score allot. I am now tweaking it a bit hoping that I score more and still concede allmost nothing.This is the table. Wow, that is incredible. I think this is probably the most effective tactic ive ever used. Seeing your results has helped to confirm this, thanks for the feedback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UPNATEM Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Behanger congrats on your success.. how did your team play in Europe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tha Real behanger Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Behanger congrats on your success.. how did your team play in Europe? I have finsihed second in the cl group, with chelsea, Copenhagen and Benfica. The lost in the next round from Sevilla. I didnt bought any players in the first season. I am now on my work, I will post a screen when I am at home. Screen from the CL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuck Posted March 31, 2011 Author Share Posted March 31, 2011 It would be nice if some of the people who said they would try it out would post some feedback. Anyway im ready to release the next and probably final version of this tactic. Nothing too dramatic has changed. The tactic still dominates, and creates a ton of clear cut chances every game. Changes Tweaked creative feedom for transition and attack phase players Tweaked mentality of MCL, bringing him inline with the othe transition players. But he keeps his RFD to make late runs into the box. Tweaked playmaker settings, bringing him into the game more Download Links http://rapidshare.com/files/455741501/4-5-1_Matt__Bristol_Rovers__Sep_2014_.tac or http://www.sendspace.com/file/d7iqyr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveshotton Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Using your original tactic Matt and dominating as Man City (I know) In my 3rd season now, in the league P:9 W:8 D:0 L:1 Scored 25 Conceded 4. I'll let you know how the rest of the season goes but I can't speak highly enough of your tactic atm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuck Posted March 31, 2011 Author Share Posted March 31, 2011 Using your original tactic Matt and dominating as Man City (I know) In my 3rd season now, in the league P:9 W:8 D:0 L:1 Scored 25 Conceded 4. I'll let you know how the rest of the season goes but I can't speak highly enough of your tactic atm Thanks Dave, may i suggest you try out the new version. Also, when playing against a top team, or trying to see out a game i make the following changes. Put run from deep to rarely for MCL, DL/DR, and put width to Narrow, and defensive line to deep, and time wasting to often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Lannister Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 I'll give this one a try. What pitch size do you play with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuck Posted April 3, 2011 Author Share Posted April 3, 2011 I'll give this one a try. What pitch size do you play with? Any is fine. This is the latest version of it, so use this. Download Link http://rapidshare.com/files/455741501/4-5-1_Matt__Bristol_Rovers__Sep_2014_.tac or http://www.sendspace.com/file/d7iqyr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corkey Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Noticed that this Thread has died out a bit? Is this tactic working well for everyone using it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuck Posted April 8, 2011 Author Share Posted April 8, 2011 Noticed that this Thread has died out a bit? Is this tactic working well for everyone using it? Yep its a shame, its working really well for me. Got bristol rovers into the premiership with a league 1 squad. Sadly people downloaded it and never posted any feedback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveshotton Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Hi Matt, going to start a new game as Newcastle and use your new tactic. I'll give feedback after I've played some games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.P. McMurphy Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Hmm looks nice. I'm starting my first career game with FM11. AFC Wimbledon will be my team. I will give some feedback after first season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.P. McMurphy Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 First season. I won Blue Square Bet Premier and FA Trophy. This tactic is working great! Thanks Matt! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuck Posted April 20, 2011 Author Share Posted April 20, 2011 First season.I won Blue Square Bet Premier and FA Trophy. This tactic is working great! Thanks Matt! Good to hear mate. I have a new version of the tactic, not much was changed just a few minor tweaks here and there but its defintely better. Three versions, Defend, narrow width and Deep Def Line. Normal, Balanced width, tempo, and fast, quick tempo and wide width. http://www.sendspace.com/file/13iuq8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.P. McMurphy Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 Nice one Matt! I'm halfway second season and 4th in League Two. Could you be more exact about new version. I'm new to FM11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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