HowBloominAnnoying Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 This maybe pure coincidence but I was struggling horrendously with my Kings Lynn team (Defuges Challenge) in League 2. Just couldn't get a win at all. I'm pretty sure that I have a good solid tactic and great players for this level but I was letting in some stupid goals, mainly down to defender errors. Anyway I was getting the ump to be honest so I thought I'd throw a Fergie'esque paddy and not speak to any press or do any team talks. I'm attending each Press conference and pressing "No Comment" for every question and ticking the "alotted time up" box as soon as I'm able too. Team talks are all set to "None" both at the start and at half time and since the very first Press conference and following game I'm have the best run ever. I've lost only twice and gone from staring certain relegation in the face to seriously being in contention for the play-offs !!!! I've gone from scoring 4 goals a month to 4 a game !!! It's crazy. Of course I'm loving it for the time being .......................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Taylor Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Have you continued not speaking to the players at team talks? If so, they'll soon get a bit miffed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Guy! Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Maybe you were just really bad a press conferences? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowBloominAnnoying Posted December 3, 2009 Author Share Posted December 3, 2009 I don't think I was bad at them before. Virtually always got the "Squad should react well" comment. Now on my 15th consecutive game with "No Comment" press conferences and "None" team talks. Morale of all 11 key players is "Superb" and the rest range from "Okay" to "Very Good" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowBloominAnnoying Posted December 3, 2009 Author Share Posted December 3, 2009 Oh and I've not changed or tweaked my tactics one bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDAquinas Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 I'm with you. I dodge every question I can in press conferences and it has done the harmony etc and results a lot of good. I am undecided on team talks. I usually err on the side of mollycoddling and go with 'you can win this' before matches. Nothing during and 'well done' or 'sympathise' after it. It feels a bit like you can do more harm than good with comments and so it is safer to stick with very little. My ass manager got poached about 15 games ago and it was the best thing that has happened to my results. Not lost since. He was doing the odd team talk and all opp instructions before.He was meant to be good as well. Pretty much decided not to replace him till end of season for friendly purposes etc. Less is more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowBloominAnnoying Posted December 3, 2009 Author Share Posted December 3, 2009 Just lost 2 games on the spin. Both on 90th+ minute goals and both goals down to dodgy defending. "This game is rubbish I want my money back" [Kidding] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zola444 Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 Well that proves it then..... This forum jinxes everything! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowBloominAnnoying Posted December 3, 2009 Author Share Posted December 3, 2009 Well I finished 12th which was my highest ever finish. More interestingly 1st game of the new season I did the same and by half-time I was 4-0 up then I forgot to clear the the assistants advice of being pleased with all players. Had a shocking 2nd half and ended up winning 4-2. Rochdale didn't even have a shot 1st half!!! Anyway won't post anymore would just be interested if doing the same has had an effect with anybody else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonky Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Interesting idea. Press conferences have always frustrated me. You might say something that seems OK, yet your player gets ****ed off. In real life it'd be much easier. I feel like I'm blind in the game. Maybe I'll also boycott the press conferences. It sounds quite funny constantly saying 'no comment'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowBloominAnnoying Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 It's even better when they press you for a proper answer because I've taken to using the "Storm Out" option.......still works 6 League games into my first full season of being a press fiend and I'm sitting 2nd (W3 D2 L1) I've played 2 cup games. League Cup 1st round against Coventry (Championship Side) - Dominated the game and lost in Extra Time Johnsons Paint Trophy against Charlton (League 1 side) - Again dominated the game and only lost on Penalties. I've made no new permanent signings from the previous season only got 4 loaners in two of which I had last season and the other 2 are covering Strikers who rarely get a game (although they may do now because my star strikers only gone and bust his leg !!!) Aaaaaarrrrggghhhhhh I'm ranting, you don't wanna know all this !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowBloominAnnoying Posted December 7, 2009 Author Share Posted December 7, 2009 OK I can't resist another post !!! One whole season of absolutely "no comments" and "none" team talks and a spanked the league. Finished with only 9 loses. Same tactics all season, same players as previous season. Can't be a coincidence surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamBamBam Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Sounds like a interesting idea. Anyone else had good results with this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamBamBam Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Have you continued not speaking to the players at team talks? If so, they'll soon get a bit miffed. I've tried this and the players ain't getting miffed at all. Checked my assistant feedback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Taylor Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I've tried this and the players ain't getting miffed at all. Checked my assistant feedback. They all seemed to get miffed at me when I do it! They whine and say "doesn't think the manager gives enough credit to the team" and "doesn't think the manager appriciates his contribution". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowBloominAnnoying Posted December 7, 2009 Author Share Posted December 7, 2009 I've not had a single piece of negative player feedback in what now must be approaching 2 seasons. Incidently start to first season in League 1 - P4 W3 D1 L0 sitting 3rd behind the 2 other teams that got promoted !! As for the cup games - Just lost to Prem side Middlesborough in the League Cup AET dominated possession and conceed right at the end. Beat Sheff Utd (Championship) 3-0 before playing Boro. Forgot to say before that last season I got to the FA Cup 4th round too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowBloominAnnoying Posted December 7, 2009 Author Share Posted December 7, 2009 Another very useful aspect of this way of playing is that I now no longer need an Assistant Manager for the team talks or for the Press handling so that means I can hire one based purely on his training methods rather than his Man Management and other mental skills. Particulally handy when your limited to the amount of coaches you can have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamBamBam Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 You have had no negitive feedback from the players at all? Only tried it for a couple of games but had a couple of players say they were angry or confused. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon14 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 OMG i was having a rough time in fm...then i saw this post it works like magic. my defenders playing above 7.6 team is playin really well went unbeaten run and still havent lost!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkLife Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 i dont ever do the press conferences, not unless it is after a vital win, or a pre derby game, or first game of the season, so i dont think, that that has anything to do with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon14 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 well its both press conference AND team talk i always put none and my players are suddenly awesome! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamBamBam Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Do you say anything after the game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon14 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 nope just give players who r rated over 8 sensational rest none. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowBloominAnnoying Posted December 7, 2009 Author Share Posted December 7, 2009 For me it's "None" before Kick Off at Half-Time and at the End of the game. Occasionally I will comment in press conferences but ONLY when one of my players has a serious long term injury as that cheers them up a bit but other it's all "No Comment" and if they repeat the question I storm out. Still flying high. 2 pts off top spot with a game in hand. So glad it's working for you Goon14 :-) I thought I'd bust my game !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon14 Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 lool yeh was about to stop playing this game but thx to your post enjoying again. Its crazy how these two things make such a big difference! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowBloominAnnoying Posted December 7, 2009 Author Share Posted December 7, 2009 Just put my tactic and training schedules in the appropriate thread too because I've not changed my tactic for about the last 100 games and it's still as good as ever. I still feel in some small way thats it's cheating though LOL (Excuse the LOL but I really did just LOL) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis_D Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 This is clearly a bug and I will DEMAND SI fix it so you guys can no longer do this! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowBloominAnnoying Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 This is clearly a bug and I will DEMAND SI fix it so you guys can no longer do this! Is it a bug though ?!? Fergie rarely gives interviews and especially not to the BBC, he won't even talk to them. Also with the teamtalks I'm guessing it's fully depended on your players because as reported in this thread some people are experiencing player rebuke. I've only signed on average about 2 players per season after the first one (plus loan players, which I've then generally signed full time) which could mean that I have superb dressing room harmony as they've not only been playing together for several seasons but also the backroom staff have changed very little. Havng said that it wasn't just a gradual change in results and performance it was instantanious...............hmmmmm (Still don't tell anybody because I like success LOL) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon14 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Its not a bug. Its just way of not upsetting everyone in your squad simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finchbox Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Is it a bug though ?!? Fergie rarely gives interviews and especially not to the BBC, he won't even talk to them.Also with the teamtalks I'm guessing it's fully depended on your players because as reported in this thread some people are experiencing player rebuke. I've only signed on average about 2 players per season after the first one (plus loan players, which I've then generally signed full time) which could mean that I have superb dressing room harmony as they've not only been playing together for several seasons but also the backroom staff have changed very little. Havng said that it wasn't just a gradual change in results and performance it was instantanious...............hmmmmm (Still don't tell anybody because I like success LOL) Well whatever it is you can bet that after the next patch it wont work anymore!!! Thanks a bunch!!!! hahahaha Just Kidding!!! Havent tried this yet but i'm def going to!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigno9 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 i've noticed that i'm getting asked less questions in the pre-game press conferences after storming out a couple of times and generally not saying very much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowBloominAnnoying Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 Still no change to either tactic or stratagy. Having a bit of a barren spell for the first time in ages though. Losing some away games and just about winning at home, very tight games mind you and conceeding mostly down to defender or GK error. I think this might be because I'm having a fantastic run in the FA Cup where I'll be meeting Chelsea in the 5th round (Knocked out Everton at Goodison 4-2 in the 3rd round) Still I'm not falling behind in the league, still 4th and starting to get my swagger back again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowBloominAnnoying Posted December 9, 2009 Author Share Posted December 9, 2009 How are we doing folks? Still going well Goon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowBloominAnnoying Posted December 9, 2009 Author Share Posted December 9, 2009 Can't really say too much more about this other than I've just been promoted again !! Had to go via the play-offs mind you. Beat Crewe 5-0 in the final. Promotion, 5th Round of the FA Cup, £2m+ in the bank, £5k below the wage limit - Not a single Press Comment or Teamtalk amongst it....Good Season I reckon :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine_iron Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 I had a player rated 6.6 at half time, told him he was rubbish and should go stack shelves at the local supermarket, he scored 3 goals in the second half and finished MotM and with a 9.2 rating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatdude Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 I wish my fm 10 is working I really want to try this sounds like it works very well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdawsoniv Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 I don't have FM10. Anyone tried this on 09? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldeniro Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 I did this on (FM10) with my Leeds team, won most of my games against the midtable teams, and went on to win the Europa League vs Arsenal. I give teamtalks at full time though or else the players complain, but for press conferences I just 'no comment' my way through every single one of them and don't give pre-match or half time team talks, and I have to say it seems to be working Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bielsista Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Nah, I just left press conferences to my assistant, I hate them. Teamtalks...not very specific. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis_D Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Is it a bug though ?!? Fergie rarely gives interviews and especially not to the BBC, he won't even talk to them.Also with the teamtalks I'm guessing it's fully depended on your players because as reported in this thread some people are experiencing player rebuke. I've only signed on average about 2 players per season after the first one (plus loan players, which I've then generally signed full time) which could mean that I have superb dressing room harmony as they've not only been playing together for several seasons but also the backroom staff have changed very little. Havng said that it wasn't just a gradual change in results and performance it was instantanious...............hmmmmm (Still don't tell anybody because I like success LOL) I was just joking mate! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowBloominAnnoying Posted December 10, 2009 Author Share Posted December 10, 2009 I realised LOL Just adding a lttle colour incase they do decide to fix it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis_D Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 I realised LOLJust adding a lttle colour incase they do decide to fix it. Hopefully there is nothing to fix. I would like it if there was an option to turn press conferences especially, off altogether, without it affecing your team, good or bad. Maybe this is SI's way of doing it at the minute? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowBloominAnnoying Posted December 11, 2009 Author Share Posted December 11, 2009 I'm sure that even if I said something to SI they'd just reply "No Comment" :-) Anyway just had my first lot of players getting the ump. I'm in the championship now so maybe getting results against a much higher standard of competition makes the players feel like they should be praised more, that'd make sense I suppose but nevertheless their morale is still either superb or very good. I might start doing as someone has suggested and praise them a little in the post game teamtalk but I'm not going to change the press conference strategy. Definately agree with you in being able to take it our completely Ellis D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonky Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 I've started getting used to saying "no comment" more often and I'm really enjoying it. The press conferences are so boring. It's fun to storm out, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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