Lyrical T Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Kevin Nolan is far to fat - shall I put him on an an intense aerobic training to loose weight? will this work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPompey Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 try slim fast Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyrical T Posted November 1, 2009 Author Share Posted November 1, 2009 is that an option on interaction? ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatdude Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 why don't you just sell him and buy someone slimer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jascko Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 He,he... You can try and put him on intense aerobic training for a month or two, and supervise his weight. Tell us if some changes accures in relations to his weight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyrical T Posted November 1, 2009 Author Share Posted November 1, 2009 Not much cash and I like to have as many English players as possible. Would you have done that if you had either Paul Merson/Gascoigne when they were still really good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
postal postie Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I remember hearing that players will put on weight during the off season and will lose it when they come back to training. So high intensity training should do it. Unless they get injured and spend their rehab time eating big macs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM1000 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Weight doesn't have effect in the ME!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyrical T Posted November 1, 2009 Author Share Posted November 1, 2009 ME? do you mean Match Engine? it must. ADMIN, could you give us some insight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPompey Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 It doesn't I'm afraid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyrical T Posted November 1, 2009 Author Share Posted November 1, 2009 Height clearly plays a part for instance in headers then what is the point in weight then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 FM1000 is right, neither weight or height has any effect on the match engine. A player though with a high weight though will most probably have a low pace stat though, as a player who is small will probably have bad jumping stats, they do effect the match engine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazbowski Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 height and weight make no difference whatsoever, it's strength and jumping that matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyprettymagpie Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Surely height and weight affects the player's attributes otherwise what's the point in having that information? So is it the case that having a tall player as a target man trying to win flick-ons is utterly pointless unless the player has high jumping and heading stats? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
postal postie Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 What if weight is high but strength is low? That surely means the player is fat as opposed to being muscular. That combination must have an impact? Otherwise I don't understand the point of players weight going up in the off season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mintah Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Height acts as a limit on a players max jumping stat (try setting a player's jumping to 20 and his height to something very low in the editor and see what happens). Weight is a function of natural fitness (as far as i can tell). Players with high natural fitness will loose the weight over time while players with low natural fitness will gain it over time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazbowski Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 i promise that height and weight have no impact in the match engine at all, it's cosmetic. Try and edit one of yrs players to a 10 ft 30 stone giant with jumping of 1, then watch him get outjumped by a 5ft 3 inch fella with jumping of 6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPompey Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 player attributes already determine this so its in there for info IRL of course it does, its just modelled different here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazbowski Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Height acts as a limit on a players max jumping stat (try setting a player's jumping to 20 and his height to something very low in the editor and see what happens). Weight is a function of natural fitness (as far as i can tell). Players with high natural fitness will loose the weight over time while players with low natural fitness will gain it over time. thats not correct you can have a 4ft player with jumping of 20. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mintah Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 thats not correct you can have a 4ft player with jumping of 20. The game will automatically reduce his jumping attribute when u start a new game. Just tried it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazbowski Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 The game will automatically reduce his jumping attribute when u start a new game. Just tried it. ok, i never knew that may bad, but height and weight are definately cosmetic it's all about the stats! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyprettymagpie Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 ok, i never knew that may bad, but height and weight are definately cosmetic it's all about the stats! But it's just been established that it does affect the attributes so it's not purely cosmetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasmachien Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 The game will automatically reduce his jumping attribute when u start a new game. Just tried it. It shouldn't. Are you sure this isn't caused by PA/CA? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackripper Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 try slim fast that made me chuckle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
der kaizer Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 lol, this thread cracks me up... nice question... now i'm wondering about it too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeeman27bob Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 It shouldn't. Are you sure this isn't caused by PA/CA? It's to do with the fact that the 'jumping' attribute, isn't just about jumping. It's about how far the player can get his head off the ground. So Peter Crouch has a high jumping stat because he's massive and so his head has a high starting point. Someone like Messi has a low jumping attribute, even though he might be able to jump higher than Crouch, because Messi's head is never going to get as high. The reason for this, is that the ME doesn't take account of height, so the jumping attribute has to instead. Hope that clears it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bboy123 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Funny thread....but unfortunately I cannot help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 It shouldn't. Are you sure this isn't caused by PA/CA? No, it does. However, I think this only happens at the start of the game. Using FMRTE or getting a regen can result in height not relating to jumping. The above are correct- height and weight have no effect on the match engine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlUoReScEnT aDoLeScEnT Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I remember hearing that players will put on weight during the off season and will lose it when they come back to training. So high intensity training should do it. Unless they get injured and spend their rehab time eating big macs The name 'Michael Johnson' springs to mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyrical T Posted November 1, 2009 Author Share Posted November 1, 2009 I left for a few hours to return to a full blown debate. I really didn't think anyone would care instead now I am really interested. I still am not convinced SCIAG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasmachien Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 It's to do with the fact that the 'jumping' attribute, isn't just about jumping.It's about how far the player can get his head off the ground. So Peter Crouch has a high jumping stat because he's massive and so his head has a high starting point. Someone like Messi has a low jumping attribute, even though he might be able to jump higher than Crouch, because Messi's head is never going to get as high. The reason for this, is that the ME doesn't take account of height, so the jumping attribute has to instead. Hope that clears it up. Well that's what I was saying. The poster above me said that the game automatically reduces the jumping attribute for small players. I suppose that's nonsense? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyrical T Posted November 1, 2009 Author Share Posted November 1, 2009 Well that's what I was saying. The poster above me said that the game automatically reduces the jumping attribute for small players. I suppose that's nonsense? it must be think about cahill, cannanvaro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braenn Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 The name 'Michael Johnson' springs to mind. Big Macs? Try Big Pints Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeeman27bob Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Well that's what I was saying. The poster above me said that the game automatically reduces the jumping attribute for small players. I suppose that's nonsense? I don't know if it does, but I'd expect it to. it must be think about cahill, cannanvaro There's ongoing debate about Cahill and other examples, but i'm not sure what the plan of action is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazbowski Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 it's not an opinion that it's cosmetic, it's a fact confirmed by si employees on previous posts similar to this! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyrical T Posted November 1, 2009 Author Share Posted November 1, 2009 it's not an opinion that it's cosmetic, it's a fact confirmed by si employees on previous posts similar to this! please link to end this debate and so I can put Nolan back on the normal training sessions PLEASE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pouncer Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Seriously? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braenn Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 please link to end this debate and so I can put Nolan back on the normal training sessionsPLEASE Hm let's see... how would he go about finding said threads? Oh yes, he would use the search function. Now, wouldn't it be an idea if you tried it instead? That way you wouldn't have to inconvenience somebody else because of your illogical disbelief. Or you could, y'know, just let him do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
senorcoo Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 try slim fast I laughed out loud when I read this as I am currently on it. 24 pounds lost in 4 months, by the way - down to 161. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyrical T Posted November 1, 2009 Author Share Posted November 1, 2009 Hm let's see... how would he go about finding said threads?Oh yes, he would use the search function. Now, wouldn't it be an idea if you tried it instead? That way you wouldn't have to inconvenience somebody else because of your illogical disbelief. Or you could, y'know, just let him do it. Okay will do. Thanks for your slightly more pointless post:thdn: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPompey Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I laughed out loud when I read this as I am currently on it. 24 pounds lost in 4 months, by the way - down to 161. Excellent, now you can run faster and jump higher, no wait a minute it will make no difference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPompey Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Lyrical - It will make NO difference Training is for a players attributes. Real life height and weight make NO in game difference but would have been taken into account assessing player attributes when set by the reasearchers So in summary, just forget about weight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
x42bn6 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I think it does make a difference on the match-engine - in the sense that fat players appear fatter? I thought there was an image where someone made everyone (using FMRTE) heavyweight midgets so they appeared as fat, flat blobs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyrical T Posted November 1, 2009 Author Share Posted November 1, 2009 Cheers Mr Pompey appreciate your post Meanwhile Braenn you make me think of the good old Boyzone song "you say it best...." Fat boy Nolan back on normal midfield schedule. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braenn Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Cheers Mr Pompey appreciate your post Meanwhile Braenn you make me think of the good old Boyzone song "you say it best...."Fat boy Nolan back on normal midfield schedule. So wait, you accept it when he tells you but when countless people before you tell you the same things you're unsure? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPompey Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I laughed out loud when I read this as I am currently on it. 24 pounds lost in 4 months, by the way - down to 161. Cheers Mr Pompey appreciate your post Meanwhile Braenn you make me think of the good old Boyzone song "you say it best...."Fat boy Nolan back on normal midfield schedule. No problem - Good luck with the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPompey Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I think it does make a difference on the match-engine - in the sense that fat players appear fatter?I thought there was an image where someone made everyone (using FMRTE) heavyweight midgets so they appeared as fat, flat blobs. 100% it doesn't impact the game processing It does affect the graphical representation e.g. Crouch has a taller graphic - but thats it just the graphic and absolutely nothing in the game engine e.g. you had a 20 stone midget, would he run slow......not if his accelleration and pace attributes were high....this make sense? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazbowski Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 it best i don't offer my advice any more, seems it's worthless! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abfc Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 Height clearly plays a part for instance in headersthen what is the point in weight then? At a guess weight would probably be a factor in strength, similar to height being a factor in jumping. As a previous poster has stated- the jumping attribute is the height that a player can reach with his head So if peter crouch (6'7") and michael Owen (5'9") can both jump a foot they will reach 7'7" and 6'9" respectively. I Dont know the exact measurements but I would say that someone who is 14 stone would be stronger than someone who is 10 stone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazbowski Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 At a guess weight would probably be a factor in strength, similar to height being a factor in jumping.As a previous poster has stated- the jumping attribute is the height that a player can reach with his head So if peter crouch (6'7") and michael Owen (5'9") can both jump a foot they will reach 7'7" and 6'9" respectively. I Dont know the exact measurements but I would say that someone who is 14 stone would be stronger than someone who is 10 stone. again yr missing the point, in the match engine if 2 players were 10 stone and 14 stone with strength of 15, they would be identical strength wise, the match engine does NOT take weight or height into consideration. when the game is coded the reserchers take into consideration the players height and weight in order to give them the correct strength and jumping attributes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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