FrazT Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Link Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShearersTino Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Where is the change list please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShearersTino Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Probably too late to request features, but maybe for FM09. Could you get genie to add another 3 fields for us. Average mental Average physcial Average technical where it adds all the various fields and divides by the number for each section. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mravac Kid Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Well, finally Genie Scout is starting to work reasonably well even on edited databases (I tried it with 2). Though I have only played a few days, so I don't know if it will fail after a while. But it's moving forward, and that's very nice to know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted May 18, 2008 Author Share Posted May 18, 2008 Originally posted by ShearersTino:Where is the change list please In the link I provided but here it is anyway: Solved shortlist problem with non-visible regens, updated staff training rating system and corrected loading data errors. Beta 3 is the last beta before pre-release version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Leeburn Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Does geniescout recquire that you have fm installed to work? e.g i play fm on a mac. if i want to ue geniescout can i just transfer my save game to a pc, or will that pc also have to have geniescout installed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Still hasnt fixed ratings. Almost funny that 90% of people dont realise they are wrong and are therefore buying players who are no where near as good as they think they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 Originally posted by Tom Leeburn:Does geniescout recquire that you have fm installed to work? e.g i play fm on a mac. if i want to ue geniescout can i just transfer my save game to a pc, or will that pc also have to have geniescout installed? To my knowledge, the Scout program just reads your save game so as long as it is available, it should work. Try it and advise if it works or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zan87 Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Originally posted by DS:Still hasnt fixed ratings. Almost funny that 90% of people dont realise they are wrong and are therefore buying players who are no where near as good as they think they are. DS I tried taking MiniScouts ratings into Genie but they seem to be calculated differently. I tried halving MiniScouts ratings and putting them into Genie but some of it wasn't practical. Would it be possible for you to upload your modified Genie ratings? I would very much appreciate it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Haven't done it because I am to lazy Zan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zan87 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 No problemo, I hope Genie fixes the ratings in the next version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 In the RC1 new rating calculation system will be implemented. Influence of secondary skills to paticular position will be decreased, correspondingly influence of primary skills will be more powerful. Also there will marked skills which are too strong or too weak for current player's rating (bright green / red on the screen). The new system is very useful to find players for low / middle level clubs (cheaters ). But for top-clubs old system is more accurate because it complexity. http://fmukraine.org.ua/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=772&d=1211327116 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiveym Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Hi Genie, thanks a lot for getting round to fixing the scout! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Originally posted by Genie:In the RC1 new rating calculation system will be implemented. Influence of secondary skills to paticular position will be decreased, correspondingly influence of primary skills will be more powerful. Also there will marked skills which are too strong or too weak for current player's rating (bright green / red on the screen). The new system is very useful to find players for low / middle level clubs (cheaters ). But for top-clubs old system is more accurate because it complexity. http://fmukraine.org.ua/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=772&d=1211327116 Genie the main problem is the influence of a player's weaker foot. In the current version you only give left and right foot a value of 5 each when really it should be more like 200 or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 I don't understand how exactly weaker foot has an influence on overall player skill. Can you explain your point of view? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 It is not my point of view, its a fact. Since 8.02 it has become more obvious. If you have 2 player with a CA of 150 and one is equally good with both feet and the other is poor with his weaker foot then the one with the poor weaker foot will have very high attributes compared to the one with the strong foot. Check it yourself if you dont believe me. However in the match engine they will perform equally well despite the much lower attributes the player with 2 strong feet has. That is because him having a strong second foot allows him to perform as if he had much higher attributes. There is a thread in the tactics forum about it if you want more information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 THis thread should help you with the ratings. http://community.sigames.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1519717/m/5822069083 It is a bit long but it should help you discover good ratings for each attribute and each position. Also it will have more info about the weaker foot's impact in the match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Very intersting thread. Really both-feet players must have significantly higher rating. I need make some research to understand how strong it influences on players ability. Then I will try implement it in the scout. Also there will some changes in the potential rating calculation algorithm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Originally posted by Genie:Very intersting thread. Really both-feet players must have significantly higher rating. I need make some research to understand how strong it influences on players ability. Then I will try implement it in the scout. Also there will some changes in the potential rating calculation algorithm. That's great that you have the time again to get so involved Genie. I waited some time for a successful version for FM08 and am delighted with the current one. I'd be even more pleased if you could include the tweaks you suggest. Thanks again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Originally posted by Genie:Very intersting thread. Really both-feet players must have significantly higher rating. I need make some research to understand how strong it influences on players ability. Then I will try implement it in the scout. Also there will some changes in the potential rating calculation algorithm. Thanks for granting my wish Genie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted May 24, 2008 Author Share Posted May 24, 2008 Originally posted by Genie:Very intersting thread. Really both-feet players must have significantly higher rating. I need make some research to understand how strong it influences on players ability. Then I will try implement it in the scout. Also there will some changes in the potential rating calculation algorithm. Good to see the program evolving with the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted May 27, 2008 Author Share Posted May 27, 2008 Meant to mention that if anyone has an error report, please post it in Genies forum rather than on here and Genie will try to fix for the final version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulletsponge Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 thanks Genie!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neevesc Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Its finally working for me now , after downloading and installing the latest version. Thanks Genie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spector Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 I always get error :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted June 23, 2008 Author Share Posted June 23, 2008 Originally posted by Spector:I always get error :/ Try unchecking the option to compress your save game- if it still faults, post an error report in Genies forum and it will be looked at for the final version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spector Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Ah.. now it works... thanks mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted June 25, 2008 Author Share Posted June 25, 2008 No problem- glad it has worked for you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamf154 Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 I get the uncompress saved games error so i untick box and try again but it just keeps telling me to untick, thats on the game im playing just now but i have another saved game that works. Any ideas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mravac Kid Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 ... the what? Save the game uncompressed, that should work. Untick the "save compressed" box in the game, and save the game again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimbom89 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Why doesnt GenieScout work on my pc? I have Windows Vista and when I double click it my pc freezes someone help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted July 18, 2008 Author Share Posted July 18, 2008 Once you have downloaded the program, you need to unzip it using WinRar or similar. There is no reason that I know off that would cause your computer to freeze using the Genie program Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Did you download the latest version? The previous ones didn't work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddon879 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 Is there any news on when the finished public version will be out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted July 21, 2008 Author Share Posted July 21, 2008 Due to the pasting he took when trying to finish the beta versions, Genie has been VERY loathe to post any info at all about the next version altho he has said all along that there will be a final version of the 08 tool. The last beta version has been pretty stable, but if he doesnt produce the last 08 version soon, the 09 demo version will be on us all in no time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Werderdona Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Has any Mac user got this to work using Crossover? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zejoao Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 this tool stopped working for me when i started my second season! i don't get it. anyone else run into this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted August 14, 2008 Author Share Posted August 14, 2008 This was a problem with the first version so try the latest version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smac Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 this tool stopped working for me when i started my second season! i don't get it. anyone else run into this? Yes, but I've pretty much sorted it out. If I change the Fake.Inc files I get a load failure During the summer months before the calendar changes over I also get a problem which could also relate to competition names as I usually schedule several cups at the club. If I wait it out it usually will start loading again after summer. Hope FM09 version will be even more stable! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Peanut Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 its says the top 5 formations, click on this shows me the supposedly top 5 formations, my question is are these really my top 5, because they don't seem the that great? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serj Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 The Top 5 formations are based on your teams best 11 positional ratings I think. Therefore you may see unbalanced formations such as 4-1-2-1-2 etc.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron.e Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 I've just downloaded beta 3 version. How accurate is the positional ratings? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smac Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 I've just downloaded beta 3 version. How accurate is the positional ratings? I don't know what others will say, but the current rating is fine. The 'potential rating' depends on how the player develops obviously, and should be taken with a grain of salt, IMO. I've gone back to using PA and physical attributes when looking for young players. The filter system in Genie is immense and awesome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I don't know what others will say, but the current rating is fine.. Its not fine, its completely wrong and I suggest not using it. Genie said it would be fixed for the next version but I guess that would be for FM09 now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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