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4 hours ago, Diego D10S said:
GOod luck, one of the teams i was screening. They are located very close to San Marino and are of the four bigger options from Serie D.
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Asking for a friend
Gibraltar , can we play that (offiicial FM) league ?
They only have one tier and i don't think they have relegations so holidaying one season and picking the last team ? or not possible @darren1983 @XaW
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On 01/12/2020 at 14:21, Bigpole said:
A lot of Serie D clubs and lower (if not all) don't have facilities, youth coaching and recruitment values set. I don't know if something hasn't 'exported' during the database but clubs like Siena, Messina, Latina, Rimini have 0's in every line.
Idd everything is set to zero.. everything is random ? poor or basic.
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4 minutes ago, XaW said:
I expect it to be so, but I don't know for sure.
Than Siena and Messina should be the same as Monopoli (youth importance and facilities +- 8)
after one season holiday
don't know if i'll go to Italy or not.. i ignored Italy because the lack of prize money but if i see the sponsorship money for some teams.. and i love the four locations from the 4 teams above..
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11 minutes ago, XaW said:
Random usually means the team will get similar to other teams of the same reputation, probably an average or something. Not I don't think it's neither a drawback, nor an advantage.
And youth importance being '0' would be the same ? they get the same as teams from their reputation ?
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36 minutes ago, JLAB said:
This was the starting facilities that I had at Siena when I began the save. So yes, they were all poor. However, I've been improving them every season regardless. This was a save I started on the day of release. So whether it has anything to do with that or not, I don't know.
No , i started a few games now : just exploring things
Some holiday periods didn't finish yet.
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3 minutes ago, JLAB said:
Yeah, all of the Italian teams that were in Serie D at the beginning (that I checked) had 0 in their values in the editor when I checked.
So this is a disadvantage ? or realistic ?
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12 minutes ago, XaW said:
I thought 0 meant "random" in the editor?
Yes that could be true, but they all have poor , basic or fairly basic . very low for some teams .
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Everyone that is or was playing in Italy, did u guys noticed that the facilities, youth imp and junior coaching all have basic of poor 'values' ? In the editor they all have '0' , even youth importance is 0 .. it seems a bug (reported already in november).
On FM20 some teams had good or average facilities in serie C (after promoting from serie D). Or am i wrong ?
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I'm doing and did a few youth only saves (promoted team after one year holiday in the lowest league of a country) but my feelings for Bilbao never left the building
Would a youth only challenge be a 'bigger' challenge with Bilbao, knowing that they already have good finances and facilities? doubting..
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14 minutes ago, XaW said:
So since @DazRTaylor had the save, I'm going with AFC Rushden & Diamonds! Why? Because I played with them in a CM long ago! Here we go!
We played @Perre8 many times with Rushden on CM, great name !
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6 minutes ago, Cheez3y said:
Yes sadly, I never really like managing in England.
I only did one long save and this was in FM 17, where I took Dulwich Hamlets.
I holiday for now almost 3 hours to get the Diamonds.
Its impossible....
In my holiday save from 7 seasons.. they are available haha
Jimbokav got them promoted but with reputation boost / editor.
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39 minutes ago, DazRTaylor said:
Apologies @XaW, it isn't Timo's I am using. It is Weiry and I found it on the Workshop on Steam. Is this what you used?
Timo is going to make one for Iceland and top 5 countries. England and France are already available.
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5 hours ago, Cheez3y said:
It may sounds weird, but nobody wants my players.
I got 3-4 players which I want to move on, which are good, but not for us anymore. (I want to follow their progress)
I dont want to release them, when they are worth a bit of cash. Especially if I need to "repair the clubs finances".
I even got Spanish players and no spanish club gives a s...
Nobody in Belgium got money in tier 2 and below, where those players would be good. (not many clubs are pro)
They dont even take them for 0€ + 10-50% clause
Maybe my setup was wrong.
I got the big 10 nations loaded, but only as view only.
After 6 season the database went from 13000 to 9000 players.
Also the fact that I got no players from Luxembourg or France despite beein roughly 30km next to both is a let down.
Where to go next? Idk yet.
I think boring England might where I get all those things.
Interest in players from above the league or the British Isle and players with cool nations and/or combinations.
I share your problems but i have those in England . Everything is 'ticked' for me
Big Country, fun league(s) , semi pro from the start, challenge in the first ten years, money because of many season tickets and fa cup fixtures and nice story.
But i'm missing one thing.. the league takes to long to progress so i have put everything (till we know more about the youth intake bug) on hold..
I did a new holiday run with FC Romania.. they only produces one Romanian regen in 7 years.. all the players were from England.
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2 minutes ago, _Ben_ said:
Getting smaller, sadly!
I downloaded this file from the Dafuge challenge thread because I couldn't get Redditch promoted and immediately removed a load of the leagues. This also means that I don't have a setup I can replicate to see how many I should have.
Right now, I have:
- England - all
- Scotland - top 2 tiers
- Wales - top tier
- N.Ireland - top tier
- Ireland - top tier
- Australia - A League
- USA - MLS
- Canada - CPL
This gives me a total of 33,000 players but that was originally 38k before I added Australia and Canada so I assume it's dropping. When I reach the Championship, I'll add some extra European leagues but, as I want to focus on the academy and specific regions, I feel like this is just going to slow the game down in order to keep the player pool big enough for the AI...
Not a big big issue but it is giving me a lot of doubts to continue at the moment with FC United
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How is your database (youth intake bug) ?
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11 minutes ago, witticism said:
This is me, I have four different academy challenges going on at the moment. Helps pass the time without getting too far into the future with any of them until the regen bug is sorted
Hmm so if they say it save game comp. their will be more regens popping up after the fix is released to compensate ?
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22 minutes ago, hubwub said:
This idea has been bugging me for awhile because I wanted to know what would be best for mentoring.
The hidden attributes we really don't see it. We could make inferences with their personality and media handling as to the ranges of the hidden attributes. Yet, the only attribute in regards to player development that we do see is determination. In a sense, we know that we can influence the growth of determination with mentoring groups.
An important thing about mentoring groups is that your mentor has to have a higher determination than your player, a good personality and has significant influence. By significant influence, they have to be to in one of the three hierarchy groups in the game (Team Leader / Highly Influential Player / Influential Player). There will be negative side effects if the mentor is lower in the hierarchy group, this might backfire when you have an aging player who's ability is declining but is a great mentor.
What is needed for a good mentoring group?
- Size: 3 players (2 mentors, 1 youth player). It is possible to have a group of 4 players in a mentoring group as in 2 mentors, 2 youth players. Never go for a big group.
- Your mentors have to be in a hierarchy group that is either in Team Leader / Highly Influential Player / Influential Player.
- Your youth player cannot have a hierarchy group that is higher than the mentors. This has negative side effects which could influence the hidden attributes and possibly change their personality.
- The Determination of your mentors has to be greater than the youth player that is being mentored.
- If it's possible, the mentor should be in the same position area as the youth player. The added benefit if they have the same position area, the mentor can transfer player traits (PPMs) that they have.
- Remember mentoring groups can also influence the hidden attributes to see what their progress is, you should see the monthly mentoring review. It arrives every 1st of the month.
The attributes to keep in mind:
VISIBLE
- Determination
- Leadership (When a player has 20 leadership, they are either Leader or Born Leader personality)
HIDDEN
- Ambition
- Professionalism
- Pressure
- Sportsmanship
- Temperamental
- Loyalty
- Controversy
I consider this portion the fun part because I loaded up the in-game editor in a different save and started playing with personalities and changing determination.
What happens when you have an Ambitious player who with mentoring changes their determination?
An Ambitious player can either change to Driven or Perfectionist.
Ambitious / Evasive -> Driven / Evasive Ambitious / Evasive, Unflappable -> Driven / Evasive, Unflappable Ambitious / Outspoken -> Driven / Outspoken Ambitious / Outspoken, Confrontational -> Perfectionist / Outspoken, Confrontational Ambitious / Outspoken, Unflappable -> Driven / Outspoken, Unflappable Ambitious / Outspoken, Volatile -> Driven / Outspoken, Volatile Ambitious / Media-Friendly -> Driven / Media-Friendly Ambitious / Media-Friendly, Confrontational -> Perfectionist / Media-Friendly, Confrontational Ambitious / Media-Friendly, Reserved -> Driven / Media-Friendly, Reserved Ambitious / Unflappable, Media-Friendly -> Driven / Unflappable, Media-Friendly Ambitious / Volatile, Media-Friendly -> Perfectionist / Volatile, Media-Friendly Ambitious / Volatile, Media-Friendly -> Driven / Volatile, Media-Friendly Ambitious / Volatile, Media-Friendly, Confrontational -> Driven / Volatile, Media-Friendly Ambitious / Volatile, Outspoken, Confrontational -> Driven / Volatile, Outspoken, ConfrontationalThe personality change happens when Determination for this type of personality crosses the threshold of 18. This is only if Determination changes.
But what if the other hidden attributes change:
What if Leadership changes, it's a visible attribute, along with Determination: you can get a personality change of Leader.
What if the hidden attribute Professionalism changes along with Determination: you get a personality change of Professional.
What if the hidden attribute Loyalty changes but Determination stays the same: you get a personality of change of Fairly Determined.
What if the hidden attribute Ambition changes but Determination stays the same: you can get a personality change of Fairly Ambitious.
I'm going to stop here because I might not get anything done with my save or the day.
Great post, thanks
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1 minute ago, hubwub said:
I'm still too early in my save. I think I will see the repercussions of this after year 10.
QuoteThis will likely require some further tweaks and we think there are still some issues with total player count 10+ years into saves, and the issue will be more prevalent in cases where user has used Advanced Options to load extra players into non-playable leagues. We’re working hard to iron these out and any future fixes will be save game compatible too.
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Really strange that the youth intake bug isn't fixed yet :o
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1 hour ago, VooDooYouDo said:
I think this is the first time sharing my FM career (which started with FM09?). I'm a few seasons in (2024 and in the 2nd League) and haven't posted anything yet, so I'll start with a S1 recap.
I've been giving this challenge a go in what has been, so far, easy-mode with Belenenses. I was debating starting this challenge officially since I like to have Moldova as my primary or secondary nationality after having lived there for 3 years and falling in love with the country (it's never once gotten me a regen to speak of though), but here we go without my beloved.
My manager
There was a transfer that I couldn't cancel, a youth prospect that sat in the u19:
First year youth intake assessment
The intake:
Why yes, holy crap. He's a short boi who makes up for it just about everywhere else.
The finale
We finished 2nd, and by some miracle of the Portuguese 4th tier we made the promotion playoffs (was fully expecting a 2nd season in the 4th tier). In the 2nd round we came up against the #1 team in our league, who we drew both times in the league, and lost to them in the first leg! In the 2nd leg we advanced on penalties, earning promotion and then had no issue winning the championship. 1 of our 2 losses came to Limianos, who I aaaalmost ended up choosing instead of Bele due to loving their kit (still kind of regret not, tbh), so I wasn't too mad that they beat us.
Won manager of the year, as if it was in doubt
Good luck, I played with them this edition and they had a very expensive youth setup cost ! be careful and good luck.
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48 minutes ago, Cheez3y said:
My Royal Virton save will be paused.
1.) I miss the enjoyment of scouting and finding players.
2.) Be able to buy, develop and sell players.
3.) Through the early bug of losing players, Im down to 9000 players in the Database.
Good luck to you guys for your saves.
Thanks for the nice updates and ideas (youth intake tracking) !!
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17 minutes ago, XaW said:
Had forgotten about the joy.... also no one available in staff search...
*Ring ring*
Me: For the last time, being Head of Youth Development in Skandinavia does not mean you are the head of Scandinavia... Yes, I know the name is similar.... So, do you still what the *click*.... hello? *sigh*
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That's how I envision it anyway. Oh, and the off season is LONG here. I've been in charge for 5 months and I've played 3 games in the league cup (knocked out) and I have about a month until the season starts. So things will go fast as soon as I get things rolling. Maybe I'll add auto-continue during the off season...
Yes this was the big issue for me with Njardvik.. 4/5 months not playing one game.. friendlies only available against teams from.. Iceland.. and no money coming in till u get into Europa (logic but extremly hard if u got good facilities/jun.coaching etc).
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25 minutes ago, hubwub said:
I don't personally use @OlivierL's chart. That's just a personal preference. I use this but then I'm making personal modifications on it in a Google Sheet.
My files are based on that one and a recent post from FM20 . That link is very good.
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I'm a GIBbering wreck with all these bugs so I need something to keep me going until we get an update out that fixes some of the bugs.
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Great thread ! Thinking about starting a youth only with one of the teams ? No relegation so i have to pick one of the teams without holidaying ? i was thinking about Manchester 62 (they didn't win the league since 90's).
Any tips (do's or don'ts ' ?)