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2 hours ago, Stuniverse said:

Are you not even a little bit tempted?

Nope. I've never done a journeyman and only once have I applied for another job. The application was successful but I didn't enjoy moving clubs mid-season and taking on someone else's squad so I quit that save. One-club saves for me!

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Sinners & Saints

December 2027

So here it is, Merry Christmas - everybody's having fun... except I'm not having as much fun as I was last month. We've hit a bit of a wobble; thankfully, so has everyone else.

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After an expected win at relegation-threatened Fulham, we hit the first stumbling block away at Monaco in the Champions League. The players wandered about aimlessly for most of the match and didn't seem overly concerned as Monaco scored again and again. Some home truths were delivered at fulltime and thankfully they responded with two good games against Spurs and Brighton.

Off the back of those results I was hopeful for the away trip to Anfield where Liverpool are now under the guidance of Zinedine Zidane (after his very unsuccessful spell at Newcastle). And this was like the Liverpool of old... Klopp-style heavy-metal football, all-out attack, relentless high pressing:

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We managed to grab a lead, as LWB Doig headed home a freekick (the joy of a 6' wingback!) but Liverpool were level within two minutes and then ran riot to go in at halftime 3-1 up. After that, they kept us at bay and a 70th minute consolation from Edozie was the best we could muster.

I had hoped for better against Norwich but it was a lacklustre performance and, despite take the lead just before halftime, we couldn't hold on to claim the win.

Happily, we finished the month - and the year - in better form against two of the better sides in the league. Both were tight games but we were generally in control and held out for wins in both fixtures. Even better news, our nearest rivals were dropping points at a faster rate than we were. In December, City lost to both Arsenal and Villa, and dropped points against Everton and Brighton. Liverpool were on a winning run from the beginning of November (no European football!), but managed to lose to Chelsea in the Boxing Day fixture. And Arsenal have collapsed, their win against City their only victory in 7 games. Which leaves the table looking like this:

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As the transfer window opens some business will have to be done. DM Shea Charles is now 24 and hasn't developed as we hoped. It's time to call an end to his spell at Southampton and we've already accepted a loan offers from Getafe and Aberdeen that might result in a permanent move for around £12m. LB Doig is unhappy with his playing time and wants out; Saudi interest might make that happen. And LCB Lorenzo Pirola and RWB Filippo Missori are also subject to Saudi interest.

Otherwise, I'm happy with the squad. We'll need a replacement for Charles, but that's the only real hole right now. Everything else depends, as always, on any players having their heads turned by big-money offers.

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2 hours ago, warlock said:

We've hit a bit of a wobble; thankfully, so has everyone else.

League Table still looks pretty good, @warlock

2 hours ago, warlock said:

As the transfer window opens some business

2 hours ago, warlock said:

Everything else depends, as always, on any players having their heads turned by big-money offers.

Don’t you just love the transfer windows… on my current save, I always have my 🤞 that I can hold onto my better players.

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55 minutes ago, Stuniverse said:

I always have my 🤞 that I can hold onto my better players

Oh, I know! Especially now that we have the Saudi influence. I'm hoping that SI will tone it down for FM25 - yes, there's a lot of money in the desert, but it doesn't make for a great career progression.

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5 hours ago, warlock said:

Oh, I know! Especially now that we have the Saudi influence. I'm hoping that SI will tone it down for FM25 - yes, there's a lot of money in the desert, but it doesn't make for a great career progression.

My thoughts exactly.

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Sinners & Saints

January 2028

Transfer window

The window turned out to be a bit of a non-event. A couple of youngsters - including the not-so-young Shea Charles - left on loan and we made no incoming signings whatsoever. I was open to signing a replacement for Charles but decided that we didn't need to I was equally willing to entertain moves for improved backups at either AMR or AML or to bring in a third-choice striker. The problem was meeting registration requirements as it was almost certain that any new signing would mean someone missing out on European football.

There was also the fact that anyone who could have improved us was likely to break my self-imposed wage structure. Our wage bill has risen rapidly in recent seasons and is now at around £2m per week. That still only puts us mid-table for player wages in the Premier League but we're also at a point where we're breaking even year-on-year and I'd have to see sustained European success before I'd be happy to go much higher.

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We did have to fend off a couple of offers. The rumoured Saudi interest never materialised but we had two significant offers from Man Utd.

The first was for LCB Lorenzo Pirola, for an initial £31m rising to a potential £49m. Happily, the player wasn't interested in the move and we could safely reject the offer. The second was slightly trickier as United came in again, this time for RB Filippo Missori, technically our backup but with first-choice Elias Jelert still out with injury I was extremely reluctant to see him leave. So I rejected the bid and we then did the "what's a fair offer" dance. We settled on £37m (a good upgrade on United's £30m offer) and no further bid was received.

And so to the football:

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It was another brute of a month but also another excellent set of results and performances. The only game we failed to win was our final qualifying game in the Champions League. Just ahead of kickoff my AssMan mentioned that we only needed a point to go straight to the Round of 16 and I think the players took it to heart - we took a very early lead and the team was happy to see out a draw.

The only other questionable performance came against newly-promoted Blackburn. We took the lead in the 38th minute but gave up an equaliser five minutes later. And we couldn't find a winner until the final 10 minutes

So we're still fighting on multiple fronts. Beating Spurs 4-1 away in the first leg of the Carabao Cup semi-final was a major bonus and our opening game of February will be the second leg. That 3-goal advantage should be enough to see us through. Also in February we have the next round of the FA Cup where we should have an easy-ish tie against either Derby or Reading, both of the Championship.

In the league we're still occupying the summit as the clubs beneath us continue to trade places:

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We have an 8pt cushion over City and Liverpool with a game in hand. If we do clinch another title the inconsistency of our rivals will have played a big part in our success.

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35 minutes ago, warlock said:

The window turned out to be a bit of a non-event.

Hopefully that's a good thing, @warlock

35 minutes ago, warlock said:

We have an 8pt cushion over City and Liverpool with a game in hand. If we do clinch another title the inconsistency of our rivals will have played a big part in our success.

You've only lost two (and drawn three) so your Southampton are doing very well!

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Sinners & Saints

January 2028

Tactical interlude

We haven't talked tactics for a while and there has been a shift in approach since last season. Nothing major, but a number of small changes.

We began the season by dropping the wide AMs back to wide central midfield, both to make us more defensively solid and to provide a base for a consistent counter attack in a 4411 shape with two flat lines of four. That shape generally worked well but against better teams we were exposed in defence, so I then dropped the two CMs to a double-pivot in defensive midfield. That in turn made us more resolute in defence but often lacking a bit of attacking strength. So I pushed the wide midfielders back up to the AM line in a 42dm31 shape.

All of these systems used a balanced mentality, and a counter-attacking approach that made sense given our pre-season prediction of a finish just above the halfway position. By the beginning of December, when we were leading the league, I had a sense that our opponents were paying us more respect and were less likely to push forward against us. This often nullified our strategy of sitting slightly deep, luring them out, and hitting balls in behind their midfield. 

I considered a number of changes, some more radical than others, and then decided that we were actually one of the better teams in the league, were defending champions, and we should start to play like it. That resulted in this system, which we're still using:

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From the beginning of the season to now, the key changes are a switch to 'positive' mentality for most games; the move of the DMR to CMR (largely because Veloso is an excellent player but can't play DM while Sforza is equally adept at both); and the use of both wide AMs in a support duty, which encourages them to drop back and defend in the 4411 shape. Much of the credit for all of these tactical systems must go to @crusadertsar and his excellent thread here:

It's worth noting, I think, the low level of intensity in this tactic. I still have to give everyone 2 days off from training after every game - I have no idea how anyone can use a full-on gegenpress system and not suffer the consequences.

And here's how the squad shapes up in this system:

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3 hours ago, SixPointer said:

Nicely balanced system

It is. It wasn't set up to prioritise possession but we often enjoy 60-65% in games while still carrying a good threat going forward. Most of the changes over the season have been to give us better options in attack, especially against parked buses. 

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7 hours ago, warlock said:

It is. It wasn't set up to prioritise possession but we often enjoy 60-65% in games while still carrying a good threat going forward. Most of the changes over the season have been to give us better options in attack, especially against parked buses. 

I like how you’re adapting the system to becoming a better team that’s gaining more respect. I feel a lot of people miss this aspect. Teams starting to sit in against you when you become more successful. 

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48 minutes ago, SixPointer said:

I like how you’re adapting the system

Thanks buddy! It did take a while to figure out what was (probably) happening, even though it's quite the forum meme at this point. There's so much happening in the game that it's hard to keep track of everything.

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Delighted to see that The Saints go marching on still :)

Really great form, and building your club in to a strong and powerful unit. It's a good point about evolution of your status, meaning you now have to be a bit more forceful to dictate against your opponents. Glad you managed to fend off those transfer vultures and hope you manage to keep this going well beyond the winter.

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3 minutes ago, Jogo Bonito said:

Delighted to see that The Saints go marching on still :)

Happy to oblige :cool:.

3 minutes ago, Jogo Bonito said:

hope you manage to keep this going

Update incoming!

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Sinners & Saints

February 2028

For the shortest month of the year, February certainly packed in a few games. And since this is a Leap Year, the fixture computer took the opportunity to squeeze in another on the last day of the month. Despite the hectic schedule we managed to maintain our good form. While we're scoring for fun we're also giving up quite a few, to the extent that the board is regularly "concerned" by the number of goals we're conceding. As am I, but given the nature of our current run I'm holding off any further tactical twiddling.

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Against Spurs in the Carabao Cup semi-final we held a 4-1 advantage from the first leg and the lads did a professional job in sealing the deal. But just in case we were growing complacent, lowly Leeds delivered a slap that brought us down to earth:

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We were dominant but careless in front of goal, and it took a late goal from CM Sforza to save us the embarrassment of defeat to a side who have been in the relegation zone all season.

There were more signs of complacency against West Ham as we led 4-0 at halftime and then allowed them to score twice after the break. Happily, as the Hammers pushed hard to level the match, we hit them twice on the break late on.

In the Carabao Cup final against Everton we needed another late flurry of goals to put a gloss on the result:

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We got off to a poor start, allowing the Toffees to take the lead after 16 minutes before we first equalised before the break and then scored again immediately after. But we were far from comfortable for much of the second half until Everton suddenly collapsed, allowing us to run riot in the last 10 minutes. More Saintly silverware:

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We progressed to the 6th round of the FA Cup with another 5-1 result against Championship side Derby, saw off a resurgent Brighton side in the league, and then faced Arsenal for the first of three matches in as many weeks, beginning with the two legs of the R16 tie in the Champions League before we face them again in the Premier League.

Our gameplan for the Gunners was to keep it tight at the Emirates and then, hopefully, see them off at St Marys. In the event, we did rather better:

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We were happy to allow them the ball in safe areas while we constantly hit them on the counter. Only a stellar performance from Ramsdale in the Arsenal goal kept the scores level until the turning point in the 73rd minute. Having made all their substitutes, Arsenal went down to 10 men when Raheem Sterling was carried off with a cruciate ligament injury that might spell the end of the career of the 33-year-old as he'll be out for at least 6 months. As gaps began to appear in the Arsenal defence, Abraham got on the end of a Gonzalez cross and we had the lead. Gonzalez was instrumental in the second goal as he drilled a low ball across the Arsenal area and Upamecano turned it into his own net.

In the Premier League we continued to stretch our lead as the clubs below us were unable to put together a run of victories - Liverpool lost to Newcastle and dropped points at Leicester; City lost to both West Ham and Norwich; Spurs and United also dropped points this month:

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Abraham is our top scorer with 29 goals from 39 appearances in all competitions. Backup striker Fer Nino is also scoring at a respectable rate - 14 from 15 starts - but he's very streaky. For example, having bagged a hat-trick on the last day of January, he failed to find the net this month. Our leading source of assists Sforza with 13, with other notable contributions coming from AMR Franco Gonzalez (10 goals, 12 assists) and AML Sam Edozie (14 goals, 9 assists), but all of our AMs are in double-figures for goal contributions. 

We open March with a tough game against Chelsea - the form team in the league - before the return leg against Arsenal and the FA Cup quarter-final against Huddersfield, before finishing the month with league games away at Arsenal and Forest.

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Congrats on the Cup Final win over Everton, luckily not the toughest opponents!

Full steam ahead in the league, that gap doesn't look likely to be eroded. And the FA Cup could be another trophy too.

Not much to complain about really :)

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14 minutes ago, Jogo Bonito said:

Not much to complain about really :)

Well, we lost Abraham with an ankle injury - only two weeks (hopefully) but he'll miss some big games. But we've been very lucky with injuries, so I can't really complain about that either :D

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Sinners & Saints

March 2028

Our game load in March seemed like a holiday compared to the 7, 8 and 9-game months we played all through the winter. But thanks to an international break, the five games were crammed into a three-week spell.

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I flagged the Chelsea game as a tough one, given their position as the in-form team of the Premier League, and so it proved. It was a very close contest:

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They outplayed us at our counter-attacking game and took their chances, while we were unable to convert a lion's share of the possession into good scoring opportunities.

But we were back to winning ways for the rest of the month. Arsenal took the odd decision of firing manager Luis Enrique - after just 100 days in charge - just ahead of the return leg of the Champions League tie, leaving the Gunners in the hands of u21s manager, Man City icon Shaun Goater. We capitalised, adding to our 2-0 away win with a 3-1 victory as St Mary's. They did take the opportunity to injure Tammy Abraham (denying him the chance of a hat-trick), ruling him out for the remainder of the month with sprained ankle ligaments.

In the FA Cup quarter-final we faced League One Huddersfield, who left me wondering how they'd managed to make it so far. We were 3-0 up in the opening 15 minutes, and led 5-0 at halftime. A towering header from CB Michal Helik from a corner was pretty much their only contribution to the game.

Then it was Arsenal, again!, before we finished the month with a trip to Nottingham. It was a similar game to our Carabao Cup final against Everton - an even contest for much of the game as the lead changed hands four times. And then, in the final 15 minutes, we blew them away with three late goals. I wonder if the low intensity of our tactical approach is what gives us the ability to surge past tiring opponents late in games, something we've done often this season.

In April it's back to the grind, with 8 games on the schedule, including our Champions League quarter-final where we'll face Italian giants Napoli. I'd also like to get the Premier League title sewn up sooner rather than later, as our last four domestic games couldn't be tougher: Spurs, Liverpool, Man Utd and Newcastle. Not forgetting the FA Cup semi-final against Crystal Palace at Wembley.

Onwards and, hopefully, upwards

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Sinners & Saints

April 2028 - Part 1

Champions League

We continued our European adventure with a trip to Naples. And if you'd offered me a draw I'd have snatched your hand off.

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For a very brief while, it looked as though we might do better than draw as AMC Valentin Carboni fired home in the 40th minute. Unfortunately, we couldn't hold on to the lead until the break as Napoli found an equaliser right on the stroke of halftime. Things took a turn for the worse just four minutes after the restart, and then with less than 10 minutes to go, the home side extended their lead further. A 3-1 deficit was looking like a mountain to climb in the return leg. But we fought back and Nino, on as a sub for the ineffective Abraham, scored to give us hope.

At St Mary's our prospects took an immediate nosedive as Napoli extended their lead inside 20 minutes, but 7 minutes later Abraham turned provider and set up Nyheim to pull one back. and midway through the second half we levelled the tie when Veloso slipped a through-ball to Gonzalez cutting in from the right wing and he drilled a shot into the far corner. Unfortunately, it took Napoli less than 5 minutes to find the net again and restore their lead.

As the clock ticked past the 75 minute mark, I switched to an attacking mentality and it paid almost immediate dividends as inside the last 10 minutes of normal time, the excellent Carboni converted a cross and we were headed to extra time. I decided to stick with the attacking mentality and we produced another of our late blitzes:

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One of those glorious European nights with excellent football and edge-of-the-seat drama. Our reward is a semi-final tie against Real Madrid!

FA Cup

We enjoyed just three days' rest after that epic before we headed to Wembley to face Championship side Crystal Palace in the FA Cup semi-final. After the high drama of Europe, this was simply a ruthlessly efficient performance:

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We denied them the ball, and scoring opportunities, while we created the better chances and Roony put away the best of them to seal a 1-0 win. We'll face Manchester United in the final.

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Sinners & Saints

April 2028 - Part 2

Premier League

I said last time that I'd like to sew up the title as early as possible as our final four league fixtures were against four of the toughest opponents. We did our best:

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We saw off Everton with little difficulty, and had to dig deep against Fulham who were fighting for survival in the bottom three. The critical game came against City at the Etihad:

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City had endured an up-and-down season but came into this one unbeaten in 7 games and still in with a chance of claiming the title. I knew we were up against it so I did something I've never done before - went all-in on the counter-attack and started with a 'cautious' mentality. It worked better than I could have hoped as we denied them the ball for long periods and, while they peppered our goal with shots, most were off-target. We took the lead as DM Patrick Berg pounced on a loose ball outside the City area and drilled it in off the post, and we held on until the interval. But we switched off at the start of the second half and allowed City an equaliser, and had a late scare when Haaland bundled the ball over our goal line in a scramble but were relieved to see it ruled out for offside.

A point gained, or two points dropped?

Our task became no easier as we travelled away again, this time to Tottenham. The cautious approach had served us well in Manchester so I repeated it here:

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And it worked even better as we grabbed a second-half lead and - this time - held on to take the victory. And then we got the news:

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It's a kind of magic :lol:

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18 minutes ago, warlock said:

I understood that reference :cool:

Cheers buddy!

Good. I hoped you would otherwise it would’ve looked like a stupid, random comment 😂🤣

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Here's how the gameday played out, allowing us to clinch the title:

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City dropped points to Arsenal; United lost at home; we took care of Spurs; and Forest held Liverpool to a draw. There's quite the battle going on for the Champions League and other European spots, but ultimately we were just a bit more consistent than our rivals. Table now looks like this:

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With the title secured we'll be focussed on Real Madrid in the Champions League and Man United in the FA Cup final. I have no expectations against the former, but have a belief we can beat United.

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1 minute ago, warlock said:

Well, this is the worst possible news:

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:seagull:

Arguably our best player, and he'll miss the rest of the season :(

Ouch!

Eight weeks for shin splints.

What are shin splints?

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43 minutes ago, Stuniverse said:

What are shin splints?

Severe pain in the shins, caused by repetitive shocks to the bone and covering tissue, usually brought on by physical exercise. Apparently :lol:. Cured by a period of several weeks' rest, it says here.

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7 minutes ago, warlock said:

Severe pain in the shins, caused by repetitive shocks to the bone and covering tissue, usually brought on by physical exercise. Apparently :lol:. Cured by a period of several weeks' rest, it says here.

Sounds nasty.

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May 2028 - the end of the road

After clinching the title and the unexpected victory over Real Madrid in the home leg of the Champions League, the players - perhaps not surprisingly - suffered a severe drop-off in form and performance. Of our three remaining Premier League games, we failed to win any. We lost at home 1-2 to Liverpool, 2-3 to United at Old Trafford, and finally stopped the rot with a goalless draw away at Newcastle. We led 2-0 at halftime against United and the capitulation was a worry in what was a dress rehearsal for the FA Cup final.

Before that, we had the return leg of the Champions League semi-final to play in Madrid:

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It was "rabbits in headlights" stuff from us as the home side bossed the game from start to finish. Still, over two legs it was an achievement to go out 3-4 on aggregate and, as I told the media, there was no shame in the defeat.

So we headed to Wembley for the FA Cup final, the last match in a 65-game season, wondering how I could lift the players for one last effort. We did enjoy a full week's rest before the game and I gave the entire squad two days free of training, held a team meeting in which I tried to find a middle ground between adding to the pressure and telling them they were on a hiding to nothing, and decided to return to our positive, front-foot style of football.

We are back-to-back champions of England, one of the four best teams in Europe this season and - dammit! - we were going to play like it.

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The first half was a cagey affair and I'd decided that I'd give Edozie, who was doing little but give the ball away, would get 10 minutes before I hauled him off. Right on deadline, we worked the ball into the United area and it fell to Edozie on the edge of the D. He ran all the way around the back of the defence before hooking a shot just inside the near post to give us the lead.

Just four minutes later, we worked the ball down the left wing where Edozie took control, drove into the area and, with a cheeky rabona, put it on a plate for Abraham to tap in. Player of the match in four minutes.

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It's been a great journey, lit up by some of the outstanding young talents we uncovered along the way. But now I think it's time to take care of some unfinished business in Malaga - I hope you'll join me there :cool:

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Very unlucky against Real Madrid, but hearty congratulations on the domestic dominance. Claiming three trophies (come on, nobody should count the Community Shield) was a fantastic way to wrap up a magnificent spell on the South Coast. Well done mate :applause:

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2 hours ago, Carambau said:

Fantastic season, mate :) 

Thank you :thup:

Still looking for my next save. I did run a pre-season with Malaga and, unfortunately, it wasn't happening for me. The squad is virtually identical to the original, and in pre-season there were the same transfer offers, the same players left... it was deja vu all over again :D

I'm now thinking somewhere in France after really enjoying my time at Bordeaux (until the board let me down!)

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2 hours ago, warlock said:

I'm now thinking somewhere in France after really enjoying my time at Bordeaux (until the board let me down!)

May I suggest AS Saint-Étienne, @warlock ?

Currently in Ligue 2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AS_Saint-Étienne

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Good luck whatever you decide.

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Been away for a bit and decided to check in, well done on wrapping up a great save! I enjoyed watching some videos on Guy Roux the other week and thought he was great, why not try and take his club Auxerre to grearer heights than he ever did? I'm also keen to manage in France, but the time it'd seemingly take to overtake PSG puts me off.

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38 minutes ago, Houdini777 said:

why not try and take his club Auxerre to greater heights

Auxerre are a club I've looked at often in past FMs but it never seems to grab me. I've also looked at St Etienne and Toulouse, among others, but they were missing that essential spark.

However, I think I'm onto something with a completely new idea (for me) in Spain. If it sticks, I hope to get a new career thread started this evening.

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2 minutes ago, warlock said:

Auxerre are a club I've looked at often in past FMs but it never seems to grab me. I've also looked at St Etienne and Toulouse, among others, but they were missing that essential spark.

However, I think I'm onto something with a completely new idea (for me) in Spain. If it sticks, I hope to get a new career thread started this evening.

The magic spark is something that is crucial to any save. I managed to ghost through 4!!! seasons of a save before I realised that I wasn't actually enjoying it and I was just carrying on for the sake of playing the game. I've gone back to managing Villa to reignite my love for FM, if that doesn't work I think I'll have a few weeks off from playing until i get the itch.

Always love a save in Spain and I think I'll always keep an eye out for your career updates after enjoying this one, so I'm looking forward to your next adventure.

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17 hours ago, warlock said:

We're off:

Hope to see some of you over there :)

Excellent work with Southampton, mate. Thoroughly enjoyable read! Will see you over at Celta Vigo! 

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