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[FM22] Overhauling SAD Franchise, (completed) and now Portugal. (Portugese edition). (Youth Only)............... Maybe!


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10 hours ago, ucdark said:

Congratulations!!! This is amazing!!!! Going for UEFA Supercup!!! against who??

We were the 1st Portugese club to win the Champions League in the save, although Benfica were Runners Up in 2035/36. 

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The Europa League was won by Juve and we will play them in the SuperCup

We won this back in 2042/43 and Porto(x2), Benfica(x2) & Sporting have also won it.
Porto(x2), Sporting & PdF have all been Runners Up during the save. 

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The Europa Conference was won by us back in 2034/35 and has been won by Guimaraes, Gil Vicente & Sporting, while we have also been Runners Up(x2), as have Gil Vicente.

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5 hours ago, Sonic Youth said:

Now there’s some mic-drop posts above Jimbo! :eek:

:applause: :hammer: :cool:

Congrats on winning the league, ECL, the Cup, the universe and everything in it :D

I know it's silly, but I think I would have preferred a 20 goal season from my GK than winning the Champions League. :lol:

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3 hours ago, FiftyBeforeThirty said:

Amazing! Fantastic job with the Champions League and the rest of the treble (let's face it - it's not as exciting really!)

Does it feel a little anti-climatic? It certainly does to me. 

Because Benfica imploded, I was able to completely rest the squad for the European games, (Semi & Final), and it made such a big difference. I didn't think we were capable of winning the Champions League so I would have prioritised the league had I needed to make a choice. 

We won the league by 11 points in the end and that's even with losing to them 1-0 in May. 

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Awards. Jun 2059

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It's mental that I have now had 3 different GK's score 100+ career goals for me in this save. 

167 Simoes
112 (50c) Ako (FRA) (GPE) 6'0"
100 Valente

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(50c) Ako (FRA) (GPE) 6'0"

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(52j) Candé (GNB) (POR) 6'2"

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(53a) Khwinana (ENG) (RSA) ***

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(45c) Rosa (POR) *,

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(51b) Oliveira (POR) **.

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(53g) Lopes (POR)

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Any particular reason it feels a little hollow? Is it just that you were able to rest players so it all felt a little too easy in the end? I use to feel that when I've won several Champions Leagues in a row in the past (especially as it was often easier than domestic success), but I do feel you should look back on your success overall here and feel pretty (very very) good. Perhaps just getting to a point with the save where you feel it's almost all achieved? What's the remaining goal now,  see how many goals Ako can get? 

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37 minutes ago, Jtomsett11 said:

Any particular reason it feels a little hollow? Is it just that you were able to rest players so it all felt a little too easy in the end? I use to feel that when I've won several Champions Leagues in a row in the past (especially as it was often easier than domestic success), but I do feel you should look back on your success overall here and feel pretty (very very) good.

I think it's a few things actually. 

1st it's because I was able to rest players for the last month and that has an enormous impact. 

The 2nd is that I only have the Portugese, Spanish & Brazilian leagues loaded, so generally speaking the contests against clubs from those Nations is harder, (in my opinion). Having said that, English clubs, Bayern, Juve & PSG have won 26 of the 37 Champions Leagues during this save, so how I "feel" doesn't seem to correspond to the actual data. 

That being said, I think we've been particularly unlucky in the Champions league draws for ages during this save. Not just in the Group Stage draws, but also in the early Knockout stages. This is who we have lost to in recent seasons. 

2045/46 1st Knockout Round. PSG.
2046/47 1st Knockout Round. Juve. 
2047/48 1st Knockout Round. PSG.
2048/49. Group Stage. Arsenal & Dortmund. 
2049/50. Group Stage. Bayern & Inter. 
2050/51. Quarter Finals. Real Madrid.
2051/52. 1st Knockout Round. Arsenal.
2052/53. Group Stage. Liverpool & Juve. 
2053/54. Quarter Finals. PSG. 
2054/55. 1st Knockout Round. Real Sociedad, (who are a HUGE club now). 
2055/56. Quarter Finals. Bayern. 
2056/57. 1st Knockout Round. Real Madrid. 
2057/58. Semi Finals. PSG.

4 times in 13 seasons we were knocked out by PSG, (and I flippin HATE PSG). 
3 more times we lost to Real Madrid or Real Sociedad, (who have usurped Barca). 
3 times we didn't get out of the Group, (we were 3rd). 
I don't think we under-performed in any of these seasons. We were just beaten by bigger and better teams. 

I think we were due a little luck after all that. 

We certainly had an easier Group this season, (Ajax, Villarreal & Koln), but the knockout stages certainly weren't easy so I'm not sure why it feels hollow. I suppose it's because we avoided Benfica and Real Sociedad who are 2 of the best teams in the World at the moment, but beating Benfica in the league or League Cup doesn't feel hollow in the slightest.

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46 minutes ago, Jtomsett11 said:

 Perhaps just getting to a point with the save where you feel it's almost all achieved? What's the remaining goal now,  see how many goals Ako can get? 

I don't think that we have reached the point where we have achieved almost all we can, and in fact I think there is a fair way to go based on weaknesses in the squad and the young players we have coming through. If we win back to back titles then that would be decent, but also I think we need to be winning a clean sweep of trophies too. 

I do feel better about it today though. Thanks :thup: It just felt that we won it without too much effort simply because it wasn't my priority, but in actual fact it took an ENORMOUS amount of effort. What I go through in pre-season to ensure that each player is in the right squad and will get the required amount of football for their development is a hugely onerous task, and that's even before I set individual training and PPM's. I know I delegate loads of stuff that some of you do, (and of course I have the IR button), but bloody hell I have worked hard to get the save to this point. 

We will be competing in 7 senior competitions next season, (League, Cup(x2), Super-Cup(x2), Champions League, World Club Champs). I want to see us get close to winning all of them but priority will again be the league because I think it's the hardest to win. 

Next season is an AFCON year and we find it harder in those years, (so I have to keep that in mind), but I also have designs on an unbeaten league season, (although that will be tough). 

My plan is to keep this save going until Ako retires. That should give me a good tilt at something special in terms of GK goals, (250ish might be possible), and will hopefully coincide nicely with the release of FM23. 

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Squad Depth. Jul 2059

GK. The save isn't going to go past the end of Ako's career and his 4+3 contract will take him to 2066, (when he will be 31), and I should be able to just throw money at him to get him to re-sign at some point. 

1st Team. It's hard to comprehend that (50c) Ako (FRA) (GPE) 6'0" has already scored 112 career goals and is only 24 years old. 
B Team. (52j) Candé (GNB) (POR) 6'2"
U23's. (57f) Vercleyen (POR) (FRA)
U19's.
Loan. (50f) Loris (LUX) (FRA) 6'0" & (51k) Diniz (POR) 6'4"
Sell

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Squad Depth. Jul 2059

DL. We played so long with "righties" playing out of position on the left that it's good to have some proper "lefties".

1st Team. (52b) Martins (POR) * & (50g) Martins (POR) (FRA) DL *.
B Team. (57b) Trindade (POR) * DL & (57d) Kravchuk (POR) (UKR) *.
U23's. (52c) Pinto (POR) DR
U19's.
Loan. (57d) Kravchuk (POR) (UKR) *, (57o) Chana (POR) *, (55d) Trindade (POR), 
Sell

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£100M Bid. Jul 2059

I think he's the only player I wouldn't sell, (at any price). I put a price of £100M because I didn't think anyone would be stupid enough to pay it. 

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They are basically paying it because his match ratings suggest that he has been performing out of his skin, (and he has to be fair), but the match ratings are ridiculously skewed by the fact that he score 19 goals last season. :lol: I think I need to remove his asking price. [Done] 

I hope this doesn't make him unhappy though. Considering we w're league and Champions league Champions it shouldn't do. 

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In other news though, putting the weakest member of the squad on pens and watching his price soar and then flogging him seems to be a pretty smart thing to do right now. ;)

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Squad Depth. Jul 2059

DR. We've got some good options here at varying ages so things are looking decent for the future. 

1st Team. (48c) Bronze (POR) 6'0" & (41a) Gil (POR) *.
B Team. (56a) Juromito (POR) *** DR & (59e) Marques (POR).
U23's. (52c) Pinto (POR) DR
U19's. (59c) Yufeng (CHN) 6'0"
Loan. (47b) Santiago (POR) 6'0" & (55h) Filipe (POR).
Sell. (56o) Sá (POR) DR SELL

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Squad Depth. Jul 2059

DC. I could do with some more centre-backs coming through the next few intakes because we have 2 of our 4 1st team centre-backs who are African and will go missing in January. 

1st Team. (48b) Teixeira (POR) 6'3" * & (54a) Fati (GNB)(POR) 6'1" ***. (57a) Lima (CPV)(POR) 6'0" *** & (45e) The Gimp (ENG) 6'3" **.
B Team. (56f) Modesto (POR) 6'4" & (53h) Alexandre (BRA) 5'11" *. (53k) Charrier (FRA) 6'2" & (52o) Rivas (VEN) 6'1".
U23's.
U19's. (59d) Coxi (ANG) 6'1" & (59l) Cassamá (GNB) (POR) 6'0".
Loan. (51n) Varela (CPV)(POR) 6'1" * & (54g) Gomes (POR).
Sell

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Squad Depth. Jul 2059

MC. I'm considering selling (44c) Ogbu (ENG) (NGA) * because his contract expires at the end of the season and he's worth about £50M and Real Madrid are interested. We would miss him, but I don't think I should be letting a player like that run his contract out now. :confused: We have a few other options available to play in the DLP role and while they aren't as good as him, they certainly aren't rubbish. Yeah, if someone want to give us £50M for him then they can have him. 

1st Team. (44c) Ogbu (ENG) (NGA) * & (55a) Mavioso (POR) ***. (51j) Vicente (POR) * & (49a) Odhiambo (POR) (KEN) *. (47k) Tavares (CPV) *.
B Team. (55c) Sousa (POR) * & (54h) Tavares (POR) (CPV) **. (59b) Cruz (POR) MC &  (53f) Diogo (POR).
U23's.
U19's.
Loan. (51f) Matias (POR) * 
Sell. (51e) Clayton (BRA), (51c) Alves (POR) *, (49f) Santos (POR) SELL, (57e) Rosado. (POR)

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5 minutes ago, ucdark said:

At what year is the WCC? 2061?

If I'm being completely honest with you, I thought it was every season until you just said this. 

It seems you're correct. 

It has been every season until now in real life but the last consecutive year it was played was 2022 and then it went to a 3 year gap to 2025 and then it's been at a 4 year gap ever since. It was won by PSG in 2057 so it will next be played in 2061. :confused: :( I must admit, it is a poxy competition, (but now we're meant to be in it it's obviously not poxy at all). (By the way, isn't "poxy an excellent word). (A pox on all your houses if you disagree with me!:lol:

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hace 8 minutos, Jimbokav1971 dijo:

If I'm being completely honest with you, I thought it was every season until you just said this. 

It seems you're correct. 

It has been every season until now in real life but the last consecutive year it was played was 2022 and then it went to a 3 year gap to 2025 and then it's been at a 4 year gap ever since. It was won by PSG in 2057 so it will next be played in 2061. :confused: :( I must admit, it is a poxy competition, (but now we're meant to be in it it's obviously not poxy at all). (By the way, isn't "poxy an excellent word). (A pox on all your houses if you disagree with me!:lol:

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The 4-year format make the southamerican saves more hard to finish, once you have won a Libertadores, they all want to go to europe and it's hard to get a good team again.

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22 minutes ago, ucdark said:

The 4-year format make the southamerican saves more hard to finish, once you have won a Libertadores, they all want to go to europe and it's hard to get a good team again.

I've not got much experience in South America. I did a Youth Only save starting with a non-playable club a few years ago, but once we were successful I jumped ship and did a runner to France for some reason. I didn't finish it at all. I really need to go back and do a proper South American save properly. 

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There is enormous scope for both GK goals but also the Pele challenge because of the State Championship in Brazil. I really need to set a goal-scoring GK record at some point that will NEVER be beaten. 

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Squad Depth. Jul 2059

ML & MR. We've got lots of depth in these areas and the key is to make through that we keep the pathway clear for new players coming through. 

ML

1st Team. (53b) Espínola (POR) * & (49e) Madruga (POR).
B Team. (58a) Flores (NED)(SLV) & (56l) Morais (CPV) (POR).
U23's.
U19's.
Loan.
Sell. (52a) Brito (POR) * SELL

MR.

1st Team. (51a) Marinho (POR) *** & (55b) Cunha (BRA) *** MR.
B Team. (54b) Soares (CPV)(POR) *** MR
U23's.
U19's.
Loan. (52i) Simões (POR) * (52e) Oliveira (CPV) *
Sell. (50b) Pablo (ESP) ML SELL

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Squad Depth. Jul 2059

SC. We've got phenomenal depth in this position and it's really not east to work out who should play in what team. The swap last season from Simoes to Rosa reaped immediate dividends as he set new club scoring records and won the European Golden Boot. Why had I not done that before? :idiot: (44a) Simões (POR) * has 2 years left on his contract and as he is valued at about £70M aged 30, I think I will look to cash in on him next season because I can't afford to pay him what he wants. 

1st Team. (45c) Rosa (POR) * & (53a) Khwinana (ENG) (RSA) ***. (50l) Bartlett (ENG) * & (44a) Simões (POR) *. 
B Team. (51b) Oliveira (POR) ** & (53g) Lopes (POR).  (54f) Sales (POR) *.
U23's.
U19's.
Loan. (57c) Inácio (POR) & (53g) Lopes (POR). 
Sell

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Personality impacting development to PA

A post that I've been interested to write, (even before this save), is how an average or poor personality, (not a good personality), impacts player development and creates a barrier stopping a player from reaching a high PA. I know in the past I have "gamed" personality via mentoring and tutoring, (and probably the best I have see at it is @_Ben_), but I've wondered how much of a barrier it is and if it's possible for player with an average/poor personality to reach the heady heights of Elite PA. 

The truth is that not everything is equal and while it absolutely makes it impossible for a Casual or a Slack player to reach any sort of decent level, (without their personality changing), it's not impossible for players with average/slightly poor personalities to reach great heights. I've personally gone to great lengths to make it a feature of this save that I will NOT mentor players to game their personality, and we will move on to my squad in a moment, but 1st I just want to look at the best players in my game World by Actual CA, (remember I have access to the Editor), and let's have a look at their personalities.

These are the Top 20 players in my game rated by Actual CA. 

Perfectionist 1
Resolute 1234
Pro 12
Driven 12
F.Pro 1234
Amb 12
Resil 1
L.Hearted 1
Realist 12
Bal 1

I don't want to get bogged down in an argument as to whether a personality is positive, neutral or negative, (because it doesn't matter and the same personality can be all 3 in different circumstances). I have listed the personalities at to "my personal preference and I think you would agree that there are more decent personalities than there are bad personalities. 

1-20

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Let's look at the next 20 players now, but I just want you to take a quick scan down the personalities. I'm not going to bother tallying them up this time. 

21-40 There is nothing particularly negative yet, (apart from the Balanced personality ranked 19th but more on him later), so let's look at the next group. 

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41-60 Are you starting to see a trend yet? Let's keep going. 

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61-80 Some of you might look at #63 Jimmy Gomez and his Merc personality and call that a negative personality, but it's important to remember exactly what a personality template is and that it sometimes/often doesn't have much linking it to the name it's been given. (Balanced for example is a name I absolutely hate for reasons which I will cover later). 

There is a template that I used to use from a bloke called Alexgoss7 on Steam and I haven't seen anything better than it since so I still use it now when I need to. It tells me that a Merc personality has the following template. 

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We know the following. 
Loyal is 1-3. 
Amb is 16-20.
Det is less than 18.
Pro is less than 18. 
Leader is less than 19. 

In terms of player development we don't care about loyalty or leadership. We just care about Amb, Det & Pro, and a Merc player could have Amb 15 Det 17 & Pro 17. Do you see where I'm going with this? 1 of the 3 important attributes is already definitely good, and both the other 2 could also be good. 

Let's move on again. 

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81-100 You might notice that not only is player #86 a 2nd Balanced player, he is also a 2nd product of our Academy. We've looked at the best 100 players that I can scout in my game, (other than those at my own club), and only 2 of them are "Balanced" personalities and all the others are either positive or neutral personalities, (including the Merc for the purposes of Youth development I hope you would agree). 

So let's use the template provided by Mr Alexgoss7 again and look at what the game means by "Balanced". 

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Well that's no good. :lol: I had forgotten he was too lazy to create this template, (but at least he could be bothered to do the others so fair play). 

Let's us have a look at the 2 Balanced players we have come across in the top 100 players by Actual CA in my game. 

#19 is Salvador Ramos
Amb 11
Det 13
Pro 14


#86 (50a) Amarante (POR)(CPV) 5'10.
Amb 11
Det 12
Pro 14

The 3 key development attributes aren't great, but they're at least in double figures and the Pro importantly is decent at 14 on each player. What else does a player need for development? He needs facilities and he needs coaching and he needs playing time, so let's have a look at where each player was, (even though we know (50a) was with me at Belenenses). 

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Salvador Ramos is 31 now which means that he was.... 17 in 2045/46 when he played 20 games in LaLiga for Valencia. That sort of exposure to that level of football is priceless. 

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(50a) Amarante (POR)(CPV) 5'10 is 25 now which means that he was 16 years old when he made 31 appearances in Liga 2 SABSEG, and 17 years old when he made 25 appearances in Liga 2 SEBSAG. That's an astonishing level of football, (and number of games), for someone so young. This would have boosted his development enormously and we already know that his hidden attributes were not a barrier to his development, despite the fact that they had been given the label of "Balanced". 

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Now let's look at the top 20 players, (by Actual CA), at my club and see what we find there. 

Now there is much more info here but you can ignore a lot of it. I just want you to look at the Personality column on the right hand side and then Actual CA column in the middle. 

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(51a) Marinho (POR) *** is Balanced, and we already know that his Det is 12, but I can also tell you that his Amb is 12 and his Pro is also 12. He's already at 162 CA at the age of 24. He still has 10 PA points to develop and he will probably make it as his mentals improve over time. 

Once again, B Team football at a good level was enough to boost his development, (with his reasonable development attributes). 

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(54a) Fati (GNB)(POR) 6'1" *** is Balanced and we already know that his Det is 13, but I can also tell you that his Amb is 13 and his Pro is 14. He's already at a CA of 160 at the age of 21 and is highly likely to reach his PA ceiling of 178 PA by the end of his development period. 

Again, he played 27 games at 16 and 31 more at 17. 

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(48b) Teixeira (POR) 6'3" * is one that surprised me a little. For years we were told by the SI boffins that Det & Pro ruled all things Youth Development and then a few years ago the message changed and the advice being handed down was that Amb was also key to player development, and to an equal level as Det & Pro. I was ENORMOUSLY skeptical of this and I know people have run tests and this and that, but at the time I wasn't sold. I just didn't think that Amb was as powerful as either Det or Pro. Well already know that his Det is 16 and that his Amb is low, but I can also tell you that his Amb is 5 and his Pro is 14. 

He only played 2 games at 16, 7 at 17 but then 30 at 18. This together with his 2x positive development attributes was enough to make up for his shortfall in Amb. He's maxed out at 158 CA, (which is a very decent CA by the way. Don't me thinking that this doesn't count just because he's not a 180 or 190 PA player. 

So while we believe, (at least in part), what SI tell us about Amb, we also know that we can sort of force our way past it as a problem with good early game-time and decent Det/Pro. 

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So there are no other negative personalities on the list to dissect, so let's try something else. If a player had good PA but had failed to develop for whatever reason, then listing the players by Actual CA wouldn't see him at the top. No. Instead we would have to look at players ranked by Actual PA, and then look for players with low CA and then check their age to see if they had been given time to develop. 

This time we have ranked my squad by Actual PA and as we go down the Actual PA column we're going to look for big gaps between Actual CA and Actual PA, and then we're going to check to see if they still have significant time to develop and then we're going to highlight anything that stands out and why. 

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(58a) Flores (NED)(SLV) has a big gap of 83 between CA and PA, but he's 17 so let's ignore him. 
(56a) Juromito (POR) *** DR has a gap of 50 between CA and PA, but he's 18 so let's ignore him. 
(57a) Lima (CPV)(POR) 6'0" *** has a gap of 39 between CA and PA, but he's 17 so let's ignore him.
(59e) Marques (POR) has a gap of 53 between CA and PA, but he's 15 so let's just ignore him.
(51b) Oliveira (POR) ** has a gap of 34 between CA and PA, but he's 23 years old now and his development period is almost over. He's going to struggle to reach his PA at this rate.
Amb 11
Det 10
Pro 12
He played 7 games for the B team as a 15 year old, but then made 0 appearances for the next 2 seasons as a 16 and 17 year old, and then just 5 and 11 appearances as an 18 and 19 year old. His starting CA was 77, (which is decent), and I think the problem here is that he was knocked down the pecking order by players in subsequent intakes....... Actually no. I have gone back and checked the next 2 intakes and he should still have been ahead of them in the pecking order so I must have dropped the ball at some point and it proved costly for him. He hasn't developed as he should have. 
 

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(54h) Tavares (POR) (CPV) ** has a gap of 51 between CA and PA, but he's 21 years old now and although he has a few more years he going to struggle to reach his PA at this rate. 
Amb 13
Det 17
Pro 13
He didn't play regularly for the B Team until he was 18, (where as the previous players we have looked at who have developed well were playing senior football at 16 and 17), and this has stunted his development. It's also possible that this player started with a really low CA and this hindered his ability for me to play him in the B Team...... [checks intake for Mar 2054]...... and yes, he came through with a lowly CA of 59 so it was harder to get him a game in the B Team because he wasn't good enough at that age. Rather than stunting his development as 1st thought, it just started from a lower point. 

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We've looked at World players ranked by CA and my club players ranked by CA and PA, so let's have a look at World players ranked by Actual PA, see if we can find some with big variances between PA and CA, (where the player isn't still developing), and then work backwards to see what the problem might have been. 

1. Yacine Limouri has a CA of 133 and a PA of 182 so a gap of 49 at the age of 23 when his development period is almost over. 
Amb 18
Det 15
Pro 12
He made his Ligue 1 debut at 15, but the problem here is that where as my B Team is in the 2nd tier in Portugal, the PSG B Team is in the 4th tier in France and this just hasn't been a good enough standard to develop him. Although he's made 174 career appearances by age 23 only 12 of them have been in Ligue 1 and 162 of them have been in the French 4th tier. He needed to be loaned out to a higher level at some point and it never happened. 

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2.  Oumar Carre. Here is another one with exactly the same thing. Even a M.Citizen personality wasn't enough to save him. He's 44 points off at 24 years old. 

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Apologies for rambling and going off on a big tangent, but the thing I want to get across here is that it doesn't actually matter what the CA and the PA of your player is and what the personality of your player is, if you don't give them exposure to the 1st Team, (at a decent level), then all the mentoring/tutoring/training in the World isn't going to save them. 

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11 hours ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Personality impacting development to PA

A post that I've been interested to write, (even before this save), is how an average or poor personality, (not a good personality), impacts player development and creates a barrier stopping a player from reaching a high PA. I know in the past I have "gamed" personality via mentoring and tutoring, (and probably the best I have see at it is @_Ben_), but I've wondered how much of a barrier it is and if it's possible for player with an average/poor personality to reach the heady heights of Elite PA. 

The truth is that not everything is equal and while it absolutely makes it impossible for a Casual or a Slack player to reach any sort of decent level, (without their personality changing), it's not impossible for players with average/slightly poor personalities to reach great heights. I've personally gone to great lengths to make it a feature of this save that I will NOT mentor players to game their personality, and we will move on to my squad in a moment, but 1st I just want to look at the best players in my game World by Actual CA, (remember I have access to the Editor), and let's have a look at their personalities.

These are the Top 20 players in my game rated by Actual CA. 

Perfectionist 1
Resolute 1234
Pro 12
Driven 12
F.Pro 1234
Amb 12
Resil 1
L.Hearted 1
Realist 12
Bal 1

I don't want to get bogged down in an argument as to whether a personality is positive, neutral or negative, (because it doesn't matter and the same personality can be all 3 in different circumstances). I have listed the personalities at to "my personal preference and I think you would agree that there are more decent personalities than there are bad personalities. 

1-20

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Let's look at the next 20 players now, but I just want you to take a quick scan down the personalities. I'm not going to bother tallying them up this time. 

21-40 There is nothing particularly negative yet, (apart from the Balanced personality ranked 19th but more on him later), so let's look at the next group. 

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41-60 Are you starting to see a trend yet? Let's keep going. 

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61-80 Some of you might look at #63 Jimmy Gomez and his Merc personality and call that a negative personality, but it's important to remember exactly what a personality template is and that it sometimes/often doesn't have much linking it to the name it's been given. (Balanced for example is a name I absolutely hate for reasons which I will cover later). 

There is a template that I used to use from a bloke called Alexgoss7 on Steam and I haven't seen anything better than it since so I still use it now when I need to. It tells me that a Merc personality has the following template. 

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We know the following. 
Loyal is 1-3. 
Amb is 16-20.
Det is less than 18.
Pro is less than 18. 
Leader is less than 19. 

In terms of player development we don't care about loyalty or leadership. We just care about Amb, Det & Pro, and a Merc player could have Amb 15 Det 17 & Pro 17. Do you see where I'm going with this? 1 of the 3 important attributes is already definitely good, and both the other 2 could also be good. 

Let's move on again. 

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81-100 You might notice that not only is player #86 a 2nd Balanced player, he is also a 2nd product of our Academy. We've looked at the best 100 players that I can scout in my game, (other than those at my own club), and only 2 of them are "Balanced" personalities and all the others are either positive or neutral personalities, (including the Merc for the purposes of Youth development I hope you would agree). 

So let's use the template provided by Mr Alexgoss7 again and look at what the game means by "Balanced". 

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Well that's no good. :lol: I had forgotten he was too lazy to create this template, (but at least he could be bothered to do the others so fair play). 

Let's us have a look at the 2 Balanced players we have come across in the top 100 players by Actual CA in my game. 

#19 is Salvador Ramos
Amb 11
Det 13
Pro 14


#86 (50a) Amarante (POR)(CPV) 5'10.
Amb 11
Det 12
Pro 14

The 3 key development attributes aren't great, but they're at least in double figures and the Pro importantly is decent at 14 on each player. What else does a player need for development? He needs facilities and he needs coaching and he needs playing time, so let's have a look at where each player was, (even though we know (50a) was with me at Belenenses). 

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Salvador Ramos is 31 now which means that he was.... 17 in 2045/46 when he played 20 games in LaLiga for Valencia. That sort of exposure to that level of football is priceless. 

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(50a) Amarante (POR)(CPV) 5'10 is 25 now which means that he was 16 years old when he made 31 appearances in Liga 2 SABSEG, and 17 years old when he made 25 appearances in Liga 2 SEBSAG. That's an astonishing level of football, (and number of games), for someone so young. This would have boosted his development enormously and we already know that his hidden attributes were not a barrier to his development, despite the fact that they had been given the label of "Balanced". 

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Now let's look at the top 20 players, (by Actual CA), at my club and see what we find there. 

Now there is much more info here but you can ignore a lot of it. I just want you to look at the Personality column on the right hand side and then Actual CA column in the middle. 

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(51a) Marinho (POR) *** is Balanced, and we already know that his Det is 12, but I can also tell you that his Amb is 12 and his Pro is also 12. He's already at 162 CA at the age of 24. He still has 10 PA points to develop and he will probably make it as his mentals improve over time. 

Once again, B Team football at a good level was enough to boost his development, (with his reasonable development attributes). 

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(54a) Fati (GNB)(POR) 6'1" *** is Balanced and we already know that his Det is 13, but I can also tell you that his Amb is 13 and his Pro is 14. He's already at a CA of 160 at the age of 21 and is highly likely to reach his PA ceiling of 178 PA by the end of his development period. 

Again, he played 27 games at 16 and 31 more at 17. 

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(48b) Teixeira (POR) 6'3" * is one that surprised me a little. For years we were told by the SI boffins that Det & Pro ruled all things Youth Development and then a few years ago the message changed and the advice being handed down was that Amb was also key to player development, and to an equal level as Det & Pro. I was ENORMOUSLY skeptical of this and I know people have run tests and this and that, but at the time I wasn't sold. I just didn't think that Amb was as powerful as either Det or Pro. Well already know that his Det is 16 and that his Amb is low, but I can also tell you that his Amb is 5 and his Pro is 14. 

He only played 2 games at 16, 7 at 17 but then 30 at 18. This together with his 2x positive development attributes was enough to make up for his shortfall in Amb. He's maxed out at 158 CA, (which is a very decent CA by the way. Don't me thinking that this doesn't count just because he's not a 180 or 190 PA player. 

So while we believe, (at least in part), what SI tell us about Amb, we also know that we can sort of force our way past it as a problem with good early game-time and decent Det/Pro. 

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So there are no other negative personalities on the list to dissect, so let's try something else. If a player had good PA but had failed to develop for whatever reason, then listing the players by Actual CA wouldn't see him at the top. No. Instead we would have to look at players ranked by Actual PA, and then look for players with low CA and then check their age to see if they had been given time to develop. 

This time we have ranked my squad by Actual PA and as we go down the Actual PA column we're going to look for big gaps between Actual CA and Actual PA, and then we're going to check to see if they still have significant time to develop and then we're going to highlight anything that stands out and why. 

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(58a) Flores (NED)(SLV) has a big gap of 83 between CA and PA, but he's 17 so let's ignore him. 
(56a) Juromito (POR) *** DR has a gap of 50 between CA and PA, but he's 18 so let's ignore him. 
(57a) Lima (CPV)(POR) 6'0" *** has a gap of 39 between CA and PA, but he's 17 so let's ignore him.
(59e) Marques (POR) has a gap of 53 between CA and PA, but he's 15 so let's just ignore him.
(51b) Oliveira (POR) ** has a gap of 34 between CA and PA, but he's 23 years old now and his development period is almost over. He's going to struggle to reach his PA at this rate.
Amb 11
Det 10
Pro 12
He played 7 games for the B team as a 15 year old, but then made 0 appearances for the next 2 seasons as a 16 and 17 year old, and then just 5 and 11 appearances as an 18 and 19 year old. His starting CA was 77, (which is decent), and I think the problem here is that he was knocked down the pecking order by players in subsequent intakes....... Actually no. I have gone back and checked the next 2 intakes and he should still have been ahead of them in the pecking order so I must have dropped the ball at some point and it proved costly for him. He hasn't developed as he should have. 
 

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(54h) Tavares (POR) (CPV) ** has a gap of 51 between CA and PA, but he's 21 years old now and although he has a few more years he going to struggle to reach his PA at this rate. 
Amb 13
Det 17
Pro 13
He didn't play regularly for the B Team until he was 18, (where as the previous players we have looked at who have developed well were playing senior football at 16 and 17), and this has stunted his development. It's also possible that this player started with a really low CA and this hindered his ability for me to play him in the B Team...... [checks intake for Mar 2054]...... and yes, he came through with a lowly CA of 59 so it was harder to get him a game in the B Team because he wasn't good enough at that age. Rather than stunting his development as 1st thought, it just started from a lower point. 

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We've looked at World players ranked by CA and my club players ranked by CA and PA, so let's have a look at World players ranked by Actual PA, see if we can find some with big variances between PA and CA, (where the player isn't still developing), and then work backwards to see what the problem might have been. 

1. Yacine Limouri has a CA of 133 and a PA of 182 so a gap of 49 at the age of 23 when his development period is almost over. 
Amb 18
Det 15
Pro 12
He made his Ligue 1 debut at 15, but the problem here is that where as my B Team is in the 2nd tier in Portugal, the PSG B Team is in the 4th tier in France and this just hasn't been a good enough standard to develop him. Although he's made 174 career appearances by age 23 only 12 of them have been in Ligue 1 and 162 of them have been in the French 4th tier. He needed to be loaned out to a higher level at some point and it never happened. 

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2.  Oumar Carre. Here is another one with exactly the same thing. Even a M.Citizen personality wasn't enough to save him. He's 44 points off at 24 years old. 

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Apologies for rambling and going off on a big tangent, but the thing I want to get across here is that it doesn't actually matter what the CA and the PA of your player is and what the personality of your player is, if you don't give them exposure to the 1st Team, (at a decent level), then all the mentoring/tutoring/training in the World isn't going to save them. 

Good post :thup:

Based off the three skill attributes, 2 out of three ain’t bad but 1 of 3 is going to be tough to reach their potential. Did you find any examples like that (high PA, lowered than 10 or 5 in 2x of amb/det/pro?) and if so how did they progress?

I guess a certain level of facilities and coaching must be available to the players in the top 100. It looks like the majority came from top teams and leagues. Stating the obvious there, though there’s bound to be some that came up via alternative routes.

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2 hours ago, Sonic Youth said:

Good post :thup:

Based off the three skill attributes, 2 out of three ain’t bad but 1 of 3 is going to be tough to reach their potential. Did you find any examples like that (high PA, lowered than 10 or 5 in 2x of amb/det/pro?) and if so how did they progress?

I guess a certain level of facilities and coaching must be available to the players in the top 100. It looks like the majority came from top teams and leagues. Stating the obvious there, though there’s bound to be some that came up via alternative routes.

I went off on a bit of a tangent I think. :lol:

I really just wanted to show that whatever the player is like, the single biggest thing is game time. I know I'm preaching to the converted in here because if you read my threads then you know the score, but I've seen soooo many people say that they never get any good players from their intakes because they want them to become good players before they play them. That's not how it works.

I actually didn't check, but let's have another go right now and see what we can find. 

So I'm going to search all players that I can scout, I'm going to filter by actual PA and then I'm, going to find players who look like they haven't or won't reach their PA and then try and work it backwards and suggest why it might have been the case. 

*This time I'm also not going to exclude Belenenses players. 

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#3. Vincenzo Bello. There is a 29 point gap between CA and PA at 26 years old so it appears unlikely he will reach his PA. 

Amb 16
Det 15
Pro 15

He has good development attributes & personality so what is the problem? Seems to have made enough appearances early on at a decent level, (although many of them were as a sub actually). Inter would have had facilities/coaching good enough. Hasn't suffered serious injuries. I can't give you a definitive answer on this one but I would guess that he just started with a low CA. He's a full International for Italy so he's far from a failure, (and there will still be some development in the mentals), but he's not going to reach his PA. 

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#9 Matteo Lolli. There is a 64 point gap between CA and PA aged 27 so he's not going to reach his PA. I don't know what his personality is. 

Amb 9
Det 12
Pro 6

He has 2 of the 3 attributes in single figures so this could be the perfect example of what @Sonic Youthwas asking about and he's only the 2nd player I have looked at. Lazio didn't play him at all and didn't develop him well either, only loaning him out aged 18 to Liga 2 in Portugal, (and even then he was largely used as a sub in his 25 appearances). He's also had quite a few Major injuries including 6 weeks out in his debut season and 4 months out early in his development. These would have had a serious impact on his development. 

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Aug 2059

Liga Bwin. What a ridiculous opening month of the season with 6 league games, (when 8 teams only played 4), and we also had to play the UEFA Super-Cup and the Supertaça Cândido de Oliveira, (the Portugese Super-Cup), on top. We lost both the Cups but we won all the league games and we've somehow already opened up a 9 (NINE) point gap at the top of the table. Benfica have already lost twice and Porto & Sporting have already list once each. :lol: We're the only unbeaten side left after the 1st month. 

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Supertaça Cândido de Oliveira. When you have a player sent off after 6 mins against Benfica, you know you are in for a tough time. :( We actually did ok and for a while I thought we might nick it. 

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UEFA Super Cup. We were the better team, but the Old Lady scored and we didn't. :(

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Goal-scoring GK's

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That’s some start to the season! Bit unfortunate in the Super Cup and Supertaca though. Four Ako goals looks a promising start to hitting 20 goals.

Next month is when business tightens up with European football I think. That’ll see where the top 3/4 teams shake out for this season.

Scoring almost 3 a game is striking too :D

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Transfers. Sep 2059

I was prepared to lose a few players in this window, (and actually encouraged it), but the price had to be right. If we weren't getting value then I was prepared to either loan players out or just let them see out their contracts. 

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(47f) Santos (POR) 6'5" * had 12 months on his contract, and at 28 it was going to be expensive to renew his contract. He only made 9(2) appearances last season and I thought it worthwhile cashing in on him and letting him move on. 

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The other players who left were very much fringe players who were never going to be 1st team regulars, so it seemed sensible to let them go for a little cash, (which all adds up).

There were 3 deals that I wanted to do but which I thought had been cancelled by the transfer window closing. 

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(47b) Santiago (POR) 6'0" is a 28 year old utility defender who I initially lost to Real Betis, but whom I managed to sign back on a free a while ago. Making a quick profit on him seemed like a good deal, so I was peeved when it fell through so will try and resurrect it. 

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(44c) Ogbu (ENG) (NGA) * has been great for us, but he has 12 months left on his contract, (actually it's only 9 months now), so when the window closed with the deal still in the air I thought we had blown it. Fortunately the deal was completed 2 days later, (very strange), meaning that it won't go through until January! We got a really good deal for someone who will have only 6 months left on his contract when he leaves. 

£27.5M cash.
£10M in installments. 
£10M after 50 league games.
£200,000 per 50 league games (£10M)
A friendly. 

When the deal wasn't done and the window closed, I offered him a new contract, (I didn't want him to leave on a free), and he agreed to sign a....3 or 4 year deal on £1,000,0000 per month, plus about £10M signing on bonus and another £1M to his agent. I wasn't happy, but I agreed it anyway. Not only were we losing the £60M fee, but we were paying him out £47M over the next 3 years for him to stay. I wan't happy! And then we got the message through saying that...

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1 hour ago, Sonic Youth said:

That’s some start to the season! Bit unfortunate in the Super Cup and Supertaca though. Four Ako goals looks a promising start to hitting 20 goals.

Next month is when business tightens up with European football I think. That’ll see where the top 3/4 teams shake out for this season.

Scoring almost 3 a game is striking too :D

I'm quite philosophical with regards to losing Cup Finals in a save where I use an IR button. It makes me care much less about an individual result, and makes me focus more on the longer term and the bigger picture. I would have loved to have won them, but they really aren't big trophies and going 9 pts up in the league after the 1st month is a bit of a statement. 

I'm not sure how realistic it is, but I have serious designs on an unbeaten domestic season in this save. 

Scoring 3 a game sounds great, but you might have noticed that 5 of the goals in the league were scored by (50l) Bartlett (ENG) * who is our 2nd choice AF. He's top goal-scorer in the league and he plays for our rotated team. So they actually did much better than our 1st choice XI, (who lost 2 Cup Finals and really weren't prolific in the league). 

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32 minutes ago, iamnobody said:

In this save do you think your strikers have been effected by not taking PK's or free kicks?  Their number of goals will (of course) be lower, but are there are other effects you have seen?  

That's a very good question actually and the answer is of course they have, but not in the way that you might mean. 

1st of all we play so many games that I want to rotate the strikers so that they perform at an optimum level, so because of that there are not really any issues with playing time, (because everyone is playing and scoring). As soon as a player stops playing, (or scoring), then the morale hits arrive and it can be a viscous circle. Luckily we create so many chances that invariably the next goal is just round the corner anyway, (so in answer to your question there is a negative morale hit involved in a striker not taking pens). We are of course assuming that I would have had my strikers taking penalties in the 1st place and that's in no way guaranteed, even without my penchant for goal-scoring GK's. 

The other negative is that you may remember that I recently got a huge bid for my GK Ako, (I can't remember if it was £80M or £100M, but it was certainly 1 of them), and the size of that bid was directly related to his performances and specifically his match ratings, which of course were skewed by all the goals he was scoring. (His last 2 match ratings were 9.2 (2 goals and a clean sheet), and 8.2 (1 goal and a clean sheet). When you are scoring almost 20 goals a season, this boosted match rating adds up and has a significant impact on the value of a player. This could be viewed as a negative because instead of Rosa scoring 57 goals this season, he has actually only scored 38 goals. While this could be deemed a negative because the bids we get for our strikers will be lower, (which is usually a bad thing because we make less money when we sell them because they are in less demand because they have scored fewer goals. Makes sense? 

Now is where it gets confusing though. I don't actually want to seem my 4 striker strikers who are playing in the 1st Team and I don't want to sell the 3-4 under 24 strikers who are playing in the B Team. I want them to stay at the club until they either are over 24 and aren't 1 of the 4 1st choice strikers, (at which time I will sell them), but I certainly don't want the big clubs sniffing around offering me big money for players who will become unhappy if I don't let them go. 

So yes they have been affected, but it's by design rather than by accident if truth be told. ;)

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Sep 2059

Liga Bwin. It's the usual suspects at the top behind us, but Benfica have already lost a 3rd game and after 8 games have conceded 10 goals and trail us by 9 pts. 

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UEFA Champions League. All comfortable in Europe so far. The Schalke game was far more one-sided than the scoreline suggests. 

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Allianz League Cup. We need to stop conceding sloppy goal. 

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Facilities

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Oct 2059.

Liga Bwin. What stands out here isn't that we're  top and unbeaten, but that Porto have only conceded 3 goals and Braga only 5 goals. 

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UEFA Champions League. We seemed to have loads of injuries from both the 1st Team and Reserves so in the end I just mix and matched it and we had absolutely no partnerships in the whole squad. You would think I would have learned by now. I have learned and I STILL did it. :idiot:

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Taça de Portugal Placard.

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Goal 50. Nov 2059

In the past we've had players who are products of our Academy on this list, but we've never had a player on the list while they are still with us. 

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The fact that he's only 22 years old is brilliant and we've got him contracted for 4.5 more years. 

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Nov 2059

Liga Bwin. That's what happens when you get ahead of yourself and think about an unbeaten league campaign. :( It pulls your pants down on you and gives you a damn good spanking! :lol: We might have won the xG battle against Guimaraes, but they put the ball in the net 3 times and that's all that matters. 

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UEFA Champions League

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Taça de Portugal Placard.

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Goal-scoring GK's

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Dec 2059

Liga Bwin. We were 2nd best against Benfica and lucky to get away with the draw so I can't complain. After losing last month it doesn't really matter anyway. 4 clean sheets is great, but I really wanted a clean sweep of clean sheets this month. 

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UEFA Champions League. The Reserves finished 2nd in the Group Stage.

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Taça de Portugal Placard. The Reserves were very comfortable. 

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Allianz League Cup. An enormously reduced squad, (because of injury), lost this game by a single goal, but thanks to winning the 1st Group game 6-1 we still progressed. 

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Youth Intake preview. A GK that will never get to play? 

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Discipline issues. I've never seen a player miss training this many times. I think it's time to let him go. :lol:

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Goal-scoring GK's. That's a lot of goals. (50c) Ako (FRA) (GPE) 6'0" has now scored 15 goals by New Year this season and (52j) Candé (GNB) (POR) 6'2" seems better at taking free-kicks than he is taking penalties. 

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2 hours ago, Sonic Youth said:

Form is great :thup:

That is a lot of GK goals!

Yeah, we're pretty consistent. When we lose or draw there is usually a very good reason for it. 

Against Guimaraes we were weakened by injury and despite bossing the game they were ridiculously clinical. They score on average less than 2 goals per game, (compared to us scoring approx 3.4 goals per game), but on this occasion we were under-strength, were poor and they were good. Just one of those things. 

The 1st loss in the Champions league was down to me being forced to select a squad mixed from both 1st Team and Reserves, and not keeping enough partnerships intact, (again linked to injuries). I was basically multi-tasking and not paying enough attention when selecting the squad. 

The 2nd loss in the Champions League was when we were decimated by injuries and I had 4 strikers in the squad who usually play for the B Team. We were hugely under strength. 

The draw against Benfica recently in the league was simply because on the day they were significantly better than us. They have performed poorly at times this season but they were bang on it against us. When they are good they are VERY good. 

I think we scored either 11 or 12 GK goals by Jan 1st last season and that was the 1st time we had managed double figures by this stage. To be on 15 goals by that stage now is quite frankly ridiculous. In comparison, the B Team have a really young squad this season and are nowhere near as dominant as our 1st Team. Cande has only taken 2 penalties from 16 games, (scoring 1), compared to Ako taking 14 penalties in 31 games, (scoring 13), but where as Ako has only scored 2 direct free-kicks, Cande has smashed in 3. 

Ako has scored 15 goals against an xG of 15.03.
Cande has scored 4 goals against an xG of 3.01. 

I know these figures are skewed because penalties are involved, but Cande has only taken 2 and missed 1 of them! :eek:

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23% of Cande's career goals are free-kicks. 
17% od Ako's career goals are free-kicks.

Cande is converting penalties at 77%, (and because he has taken far fewer, a miss has a much bigger impact on the overall average). 
Ako is converting penalties at 88%, (and because he's taken 120+ missing a couple doesn't really change anything). 

The differences between the 2 players are quite significant. I like that, but I can't explain it. 

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Jan 2060.

Liga Bwin. It's fair to say that we have been in decent form in the league. :lol: We're 7 pts ahead of Porto, (and have a game in hand), but I think Benfica will still finish 2nd. It's good to see Sporting become a little more consistent again. Braga were doing really well and were on a 20 game unbeaten run until recently. 

The best thing about this run of form is that due to injuries we have been using an under-strength squad 

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Taça de Portugal Placard. The Reserves strolled through this. 

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Allianz League Cup. I've worked out why we have been having so much trouble with Benfica in this. Although it tells us we're playing at a neutral venue, we've actually been playing Semi's and Finals at the Estádio da Luz, (which is Benfica's home ground). :confused:

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Discipline. That's a LOT of money he's paid in fines! :idiot:

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Transfers

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Goal-scoring GK's. 50c) Ako (FRA) (GPE) 6'0" has been in great form recently. 

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1 hour ago, Rikulec said:

Yup, that's a fairly decent month in the league. :lol:

As much as I would like to say that we just have better players than the opposition, while it's certainly true that we have some star players, we also regularly play players who are unlikely ever to be Portugese Internationals and others who are Internationals of other Nations but nowhere near the required quality for a team competing with Benfica.

(52b) Martins (POR) *(50g) Martins (POR) (FRA) DL * are our 1st and 2nd choice left backs. Neither have ever been capped and it wouldn't surprise me if that doesn't change. They've made 16(1) and 21(2) appearances respectively this season.

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(45e) The Gimp (ENG) 6'3" ** has been capped just once by England, and he's in his 30's now so he's not going to get any better. He's made 17(2) appearances for us. 

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(49a) Odhiambo (POR) (KEN) * has just 1 Cap and is pretty limited if I'm honest. He's our 2nd choice CM(a). He shouldn't be winning titles but he's made 15(6) appearances already this season.

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The (CPV) Tavares brothers, (they're not brothers at all), are our 2nd choice DLP and our 3rd choice CM(a) who have made 8(12) and 6 appearances respectively. These players shouldn't be getting a game. 

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(49e) Madruga (POR) & (53b) Espínola (POR) * are our 1st and 2nd choice left wingers but they also haven't been capped and I don't think they ever will, yet they have made 19(7) and 17(5) appearances respectively. 

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(50l) Bartlett (ENG) * is our 2nd choice AF(a) and only has 3 Caps for England. He's made 9(9) appearances, scoring 10 goals this season. 

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(51b) Oliveira (POR) ** is our 3rd choice AF(a) and has scored 2 goals from 3 appearances this season. Again, he's way off it. 

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Some very average players there I think you would agree. I think what I'm saying is that it's better to play fresh/fit players of a poorer standard than it is to flog the stars to death. 

 

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Feb 2060

Liga Bwin. 3 more wins and 3 more clean sheets sends us 10 pts clear with 9 games remaining. At this stage the focus is starting to shift from Liga Bwin games to the Champions League and Taça de Portugal Placard. The key isn't to just bin of the league games though. but select a team that will still get the job done. 

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UEFA Champions League. We should have won by more than a single goal, and I hope that our defensive stability with be enough to see us through the 2nd leg. 

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Discipline. No wonder he wants to leave. I'm fining him half his wages every month. :lol:

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Goal-scoring GK's. No goals for Ako this month after his 6 goals last month, but (52j) Candé (GNB) (POR) 6'2" chipped in with 3 penalties. 

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Youth Intake day. Mar 2060

What are we expecting. Well the Preview suggested the following. 

1x GK
1x FB
2x AM
1x W

I plan on ending the save if I ever get to the point that Ako retires, so not sure we will benefit from another GK.
I don't care which side the FB is. 
We don't use AM's so if they are any good I would hope to re-train them to play either as the 2nd striker on the right, a winger or a DLP.
I don't care which side the W is.  

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What have we got

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Squad by PA stars.

  • The high PA is 4.0, (which isn't great), but the reason it isn't great is because we have Worldclass players already at the club). 
  • Not much in the way of Nationalities, although 2 interesting ones at the bottom. 
  • 4 players with low Det, (that I'm not going to sign). 
  • 1x Perfectionist, 2x F.Pro, 1x F.Det

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I've decided immediately that I won't be signing the 4 players with Low Det. 

(60k) Silvestre. (POR)
(60l) Furtado. (POR)
(60n) Pinto. (POR)
(60p) Njie. (GAM)

It has nothing to do with their CA or PA and all about their personality, (or lack thereof).

Squad by Actual PA.

  • I really like this as an intake, despite it actually not appearing to be great. There are 5 players at 130+ PA and 2 more at 120+ PA. 
  • (60n) Pinto. (POR) actually has good PA of 143, but I'm still not signing him. He is Unambitious(2). He has Low Det(3). He has a low starting CA(52). He is never going to reach his PA with those 3 things working against him. It doesn't matter if his PA was 200. He wouldn't reach it so it doesn't matter!

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(60m) Lehner (POR) (SUI) looks ok, but I really don't like that low workrate in a full back. 

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(60a) Costa (POR) looks like he will work nicely as a DLP. 

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(60g) Vieira (POR) looks really good. :thup:

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(60a) Farny (POR) (SUI) looks excellent and he will play as a 2nd striker. I really like him. :thup: :applause:

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(60d) Ribeiro (POR) 6'0" is the GK that isn't needed. Great personality though. :thup: To those who are a little unsure as to what makes a Perfectionist, this is the template. 

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His hidden attributes are actually Amb(14) Press(13) Pro(17) Consis(16) ImpM(13) Det(15) which I thing you will agree is decent. 

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(60c) Leonardo (POR) 6'1" may be an (Unamb) personality, but it's not twinned with Low Det so I am offering him a contract. His Pro is also in double figures. 

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NxGn Mar 2060.

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(57a) Lima (CPV)(POR) 6'0" *** is the 2nd choice left centre-half. 

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(56a) Juromito (POR) *** DR is the 3rd choice right back at the moment, (so playing mostly for the B Team), but will be 2nd choice next season. 

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Players eligible for the award

19 year old (56a) Juromito (POR) *** DR. CA134 PA173. 
18 year old (57a) Lima (CPV)(POR) 6'0" ***. CA130 PA160.
18 year old (57c) Inácio (POR). CA120 PA127.
18 year old (58a) Flores (NED)(SLV) CA110 PA184.
19 year old (56f) Modesto (POR) 6'4". CA107 PA113.
18 year old (57b) Trindade (POR) * DL. CA102 PA139. 

We've got no other teenagers on 100+ CA. 

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Mar 2060

Liga Bwin. 2 more wins and 2 more clean sheets. We're 10 pts clear with 7 games remaining. Porto and Benfica are slugging it out for 2nd/3rd and we will probably decide who finishes where as we play them in the last 2 games of the season. 

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UEFA Champions League. Another comfortable win sees us through with ease. 

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We have avoided both Porto & Real Sociedad in the Quarter Finals. 

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And also the Semi-Final too. 

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Taça de Portugal Placard.

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Facilities

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Goal-scoring GK's. We're almost there. My record for GK goals in a season is 24 (I think), and (50c) Ako (FRA) (GPE) 6'0" is currently on 24 with at least 10 games, (and possibly as many as 14 games), still to play. 

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