[FM21] UEFA Revival 1.3 - 31/05/2021 - European Super League, FIFA Club World Cup, Oceania and much more!

[Rob 396]

24 minutes ago, Carlito85 said:

Is that one team competing in all of those?

Yeah, Real Madrid

So I've had a couple of varied Holiday runs with this, with the few major leagues selected, it's fine - but with this particular one, I had pretty much every European league selected, then all of a sudden I noticed 2nd season that Madrid were in not only the ESL, and UCL, but the Conference League! Weird

[Carlito85]

13 minutes ago, Rob 396 said:

Yeah, Real Madrid

So I've had a couple of varied Holiday runs with this, with the few major leagues selected, it's fine - but with this particular one, I had pretty much every European league selected, then all of a sudden I noticed 2nd season that Madrid were in not only the ESL, and UCL, but the Conference League! Weird

I did the same thing after Barcelona were in multiple comps. I'll run some more tests on it and  see who is missing 2nd season

[Wolf_pd]

Is this a case of the winner of one competition also qualifying as national champion? 

[Carlito85]

32 minutes ago, Wolf_pd said:

Is this a case of the winner of one competition also qualifying as national champion? 

That's a possibility but normally the space goes to another team rather than leaving a vacant spot. I think it may be because I had to set some specific instructions for German teams to prevent Wolfsburg competing in multiple competitions.

[Rob 396]

11 hours ago, Carlito85 said:

I did the same thing after Barcelona were in multiple comps. I'll run some more tests on it and  see who is missing 2nd season

Awesome

Keep up the good work

(I was thoroughly against the Super League in real life, but it's a nice change of pace in-game, and it's nice to see some different teams win the Champs League - two times in 3 years for Lazio so far, haha)

[Wolf_pd]

11 hours ago, Carlito85 said:

That's a possibility but normally the space goes to another team rather than leaving a vacant spot. I think it may be because I had to set some specific instructions for German teams to prevent Wolfsburg competing in multiple competitions.

I have a test running that ignores the winner of the champions league if already qualified via the national championship. Does not yet what I expect it to do, but that might be because I am doing it wrong.

[Carlito85]

4 hours ago, Wolf_pd said:

I have a test running that ignores the winner of the champions league if already qualified via the national championship. Does not yet what I expect it to do, but that might be because I am doing it wrong.

Were you able to set it that way or is it just happening that way on its own? Could be something worth looking into.

[Wolf_pd]

No, I can set the ignore, but the setup I use can't handle a missing team. So it does ignore properly and then still adds a team, because it doesn't like less teams in a knockout format.

[Carlito85]

34 minutes ago, Wolf_pd said:

No, I can set the ignore, but the setup I use can't handle a missing team. So it does ignore properly and then still adds a team, because it doesn't like less teams in a knockout format.

It's definitely something that needs to be added. A simple ruling of who gets the spot depending on if they already qualified via their domestic league could make all the difference.

As it is now I think it actually works differently for certain competitions. For example if it's the Champions League then the place tends to go to the winner's domestic league if they already qualified. In the Cup Winners' Cup though I've noticed it actually goes to the runner-up, then the next highest league place in that league failing that. Very complicated process to work with lol.

[Wolf_pd]

For my 1988 rules, if the team that wins the CL, also is champion, the winner place is ignored. Not an issue in reallife, less easy in Advanced Rules.

I am even contemplating to create a round robin with 4 teams, so whenever a team wins both the CL and its national championship, the ignore works, since it will then just give one team less to the first round league stage. I thought I had it working for the Asian and African Nations Cups, only to find out that the game kept the first round as is, and added a lucky loser from the first round. Not that bad a solution, but not the way I intended and thought the rules would/should work!

[Carlito85]

5 hours ago, Wolf_pd said:

For my 1988 rules, if the team that wins the CL, also is champion, the winner place is ignored. Not an issue in reallife, less easy in Advanced Rules.

I am even contemplating to create a round robin with 4 teams, so whenever a team wins both the CL and its national championship, the ignore works, since it will then just give one team less to the first round league stage. I thought I had it working for the Asian and African Nations Cups, only to find out that the game kept the first round as is, and added a lucky loser from the first round. Not that bad a solution, but not the way I intended and thought the rules would/should work!

A playoff for that space would actually be an interesting concept in real life I think if it took place over the summer or something. I think it might be worth throwing in one of my future files lol.

If you want the vacant space filled, try adding an extra instruction just after the "get qualified teams for comp" rule. That should work as a backup rule for whenever the Champions League winner also wins their domestic division.

@Rob 396 I think I've got that Super League error sorted by the way, I'm just running a few tests on it so if all goes well I'll put an update out tomorrow

Edited May 30, 2021 by Carlito85

[WorIdClass]

Hey so you see how there are multiple files how does this work

i.e I wanna play FM with the old 2 group stage style?

[Carlito85]

8 hours ago, WorIdClass said:

Hey so you see how there are multiple files how does this work

i.e I wanna play FM with the old 2 group stage style?

There are 58 UEFA files available to choose from (only pick 1 of these when starting a new save). If you want the old 2 group stage style from 1999-2003 with the UEFA Cup then you'd be looking at any of the following:

File #25 - UEFA Cup is a straight knockout competition and the Champions League winner doesn't qualify automatically for next season
File #33 - Alternate to file #25 but features a straight knockout format for the Intertoto Cup instead of a group stage (3 teams also qualify for the UEFA Cup instead of 1)
File #47 - Champions League winner qualifies automatically and the nation rankings are adjusted so England only get 3 teams instead of 4 (based on the 1999-2000 season)

These are the main ones but there a bunch more included that feature 2 group stages in the Champions League. I've included a file guide so you can choose to your liking

Edited May 31, 2021 by Carlito85

[anitamui]

hello,how to qualify for the 12 team Club world Cup??

[L55DS]

30 minutes ago, anitamui said:

hello,how to qualify for the 12 team Club world Cup??

See the PDF included in the file. The 12 team club world cup is biennial (Played every two years) and includes the present and previous Champions league winner from the main five confederations, plus the existing OFC champion and the previous CWC winner. Runners-up are invited where there is overlap. 

Ie. You must win the Champions League to qualify. 

[Wolf_pd]

11 hours ago, Carlito85 said:

A playoff for that space would actually be an interesting concept in real life I think if it took place over the summer or something. I think it might be worth throwing in one of my future files lol.

If you want the vacant space filled, try adding an extra instruction just after the "get qualified teams for comp" rule. That should work as a backup rule for whenever the Champions League winner also wins their domestic division.

This is how I have it in mind

But I need to see where to put this rule properly (just did this to set up the screenshot).

Another idea is to set up a bye for the CL winner if no opponent can be found, like when the previous round doesn't produce enough teams. But that's a whole new step for me to find out how that works, as it is a conditional bye, depending on whether the previous CL winner also wins its national competition.

 

[Rob 396]

Carlito

This was in 2022/23 season w/ the 1.3 update to file 52

(Juventus)



21/22


 

Edited June 2, 2021 by Rob 396

[Carlito85]

2 hours ago, Rob 396 said:

Carlito

This was in 2022/23 season w/ the 1.3 update to file 52

(Juventus)



21/22


 

Are you combining any other files with it by any chance? I ran a test on it with every nation activated and took charge of a team to see if that made a difference and I managed to have it work OK. Do you have any idea which team is missing? The nations that won the Champions League and Europa League should have 5 teams in the Champions League in the following season. It looks like from the pic you posted that those nations may not have gotten a 5th team and have left 2 vacant spaces.

[Rob 396]

3 hours ago, Carlito85 said:

Are you combining any other files with it by any chance? I ran a test on it with every nation activated and took charge of a team to see if that made a difference and I managed to have it work OK. Do you have any idea which team is missing? The nations that won the Champions League and Europa League should have 5 teams in the Champions League in the following season. It looks like from the pic you posted that those nations may not have gotten a 5th team and have left 2 vacant spaces.

Well, combining with several files by now as you can imagine, but not currently any files that have league rules - odd - i'll double check

[Carlito85]

46 minutes ago, Rob 396 said:

Well, combining with several files by now as you can imagine, but not currently any files that have league rules - odd - i'll double check

I mean you should be able to combine with other stuff as long as it's not alternate UEFA competitions obviously. Your test save messed up in 2022/23 but ran OK for the first 2 seasons? I'm wondering if the World Cup in Qatar had anything to do with it...

[Rob 396]

Got another run here, again 2022/23

4 German teams listed in Champs League (all entered at League Stage), but a rogue Bayern are also in the Table and have fixtures, despite not even being listed in the Teams list


(only files running are file 52, as well XML/FMF files that affect naming and kit colours etc, nowt else)
 

Edited June 2, 2021 by Rob 396

[Carlito85]

2 hours ago, Rob 396 said:

Got another run here, again 2022/23

4 German teams listed in Champs League (all entered at League Stage), but a rogue Bayern are also in the Table and have fixtures, despite not even being listed in the Teams list


(only files running are file 52, as well XML/FMF files that affect naming and kit colours etc, nowt else)
 

Which teams won the Champions League and Europa League in 2021/22?

[Rob 396]

35 minutes ago, Carlito85 said:

Which teams won the Champions League and Europa League in 2021/22?

Oh so I didn't even notice this at first, sorry, but Bayern also featured in 2021/2022 ! (and won it)

 

[Carlito85]

4 hours ago, Rob 396 said:

Oh so I didn't even notice this at first, sorry, but Bayern also featured in 2021/2022 ! (and won it)

 

Hmmm very strange.

Am I right in thinking that it's messing up for 2 seasons and then going back to normal with no Super League teams included? I'd imagine if they were in any more seasons they'd have made at least one final in the following 5 seasons. If that is the case then I think the error has to be something to do with the World Cup schedule, maybe a certain nation's season is not finishing in time for the competition season renewal date or something.

Anyway should this be the case then I think it may be worth me trying to put together a World Cup file specifically to use with file #52.

[Rob 396]

6 hours ago, Carlito85 said:

Hmmm very strange.

Am I right in thinking that it's messing up for 2 seasons and then going back to normal with no Super League teams included? I'd imagine if they were in any more seasons they'd have made at least one final in the following 5 seasons. If that is the case then I think the error has to be something to do with the World Cup schedule, maybe a certain nation's season is not finishing in time for the competition season renewal date or something.

Anyway should this be the case then I think it may be worth me trying to put together a World Cup file specifically to use with file #52.

I think you might be right, seems to be these two seasons alone then reverts to normal, from what I can see - always seems to be 2021/22, 2022/2023

That bloody Qatar World Cup  hah, even more reason to dislike it 

[WEED GOKU]

Hi Carlito!

I'm still playing FM20 and enjoying the quality and dedication that you put into your wonderful 2020 version so I haven't migrated to FM21 yet.

Nontheless, I'm posting here to show my gratitude to your consistently excelent work and my happiness to see you improving the scope of your mod with each passing year!

[Carlito85]

15 hours ago, WEED GOKU said:

Hi Carlito!

I'm still playing FM20 and enjoying the quality and dedication that you put into your wonderful 2020 version so I haven't migrated to FM21 yet.

Nontheless, I'm posting here to show my gratitude to your consistently excelent work and my happiness to see you improving the scope of your mod with each passing year!

Thanks a lot mate

[Yiannis01]

thank you for this, however the 1.2 or 1.3 update (not sure which) seems to have caused a problem. You mentioned you changed the IDs of the UEFA Competitions in the update, and the UEFA Cup is now showing as 'Tercera Division XV' with the logo of that competition (Using 1.3 UEFA Revival 22 and Club World Cup 4B). This is very puzzling and I tried disabling other editor files with no success, changing the 1.3 file with UEFA Revivial 22 1.1 and it is back to UEFA Cup. I left 1.3 Club World Cup enabled - I don't know if it will cause a problem if it wants to qualify teams from the changed UEFA IDs.

I have no other league or cup addons in the folder while I am testing this.

[Carlito85]

1 hour ago, Yiannis01 said:

thank you for this, however the 1.2 or 1.3 update (not sure which) seems to have caused a problem. You mentioned you changed the IDs of the UEFA Competitions in the update, and the UEFA Cup is now showing as 'Tercera Division XV' with the logo of that competition (Using 1.3 UEFA Revival 22 and Club World Cup 4B). This is very puzzling and I tried disabling other editor files with no success, changing the 1.3 file with UEFA Revivial 22 1.1 and it is back to UEFA Cup. I left 1.3 Club World Cup enabled - I don't know if it will cause a problem if it wants to qualify teams from the changed UEFA IDs.

I have no other league or cup addons in the folder while I am testing this.

For the competition name to change you will just need to save your game, quit out to the main menu and then load your save back up and it should work fine.

Regarding the graphics not showing up, I left the configs out by design so that you could add the logos to your existing graphics folder should you have one. If you already have an existing graphics folder you will just need to change the logo IDs in your existing config and rename the wrong logos in your graphics > logos folder as something else (put backup on the end or something). I will include a basic one in the next update though for those who don't have any existing graphics

Edited June 4, 2021 by Carlito85

[Yiannis01]

18 minutes ago, Carlito85 said:

For the competition name to change you will just need to save your game, quit out to the main menu and then load your save back up and it should work fine.

Regarding the graphics not showing up, I left the configs out by design so that you could add the logos to your existing graphics folder should you have one. If you already have an existing graphics folder you will just need to change the logo IDs in your existing config and rename the wrong logos in your graphics > logos folder as something else (put backup on the end or something). I will include a basic one in the next update though for those who don't have any existing graphics

I see, very bizarre as I tested multiple times with different saves but never thought it would fix itself the next time the game was loaded. So the problem is very fixable, the ID is just sharing with the Mexican Third Division which of course I can replace the logo and trophy.

Thanks for suggesting the simple fix, never crossed my mind!

[smugleafraptors]

Is it possible for a FM20/FM19 version of files 51-52 to be made for those previous FM games?, and if not, is there a guide to create it for themselves?

Edited June 30, 2021 by smugleafraptors
added more info to the question

[Carlito85]

1 hour ago, smugleafraptors said:

Is it possible for a FM20/FM19 version of files 51-52 to be made for those previous FM games?, and if not, is there a guide to create it for themselves?

It should be possible to import both files into the FM20 or FM19 editor as the files are in XML format. From there you'd just need to force verification.

If you're not sure how to do that:

Do you have Notepad++? If not, you need to download that (it's free). Save the file and export it from the editor. Open the XML file in Notepad++ and search for the line of code containing 'verf' (in my files this should be line 565). Highlight from this line all the way up to line 2 and delete it all. Make sure there is no space between line 1 and line 566 (which is going to be your new line 2), and save the file.

Edited July 1, 2021 by Carlito85

[HugoLazgo12]

16 hours ago, Carlito85 said:

It should be possible to import both files into the FM20 or FM19 editor as the files are in XML format. From there you'd just need to force verification.

If you're not sure how to do that:

Do you have Notepad++? If not, you need to download that (it's free). Save the file and export it from the editor. Open the XML file in Notepad++ and search for the line of code containing 'verf' (in my files this should be line 565). Highlight from this line all the way up to line 2 and delete it all. Make sure there is no space between line 1 and line 566 (which is going to be your new line 2), and save the file.

hey can you remove away goal rule and added the alternate format from UEFA Revival

[smugleafraptors]

I tried your suggestion, but at line 565 it shows  <integer id="nation" value="801"/> instead of verf. There is no "verf" in your xml files. 

Please mind that i don't use steam for my fm19, i can't use it after purchasing the game.

Edited July 1, 2021 by smugleafraptors

[Carlito85]

8 hours ago, HugoLazgo12 said:

hey can you remove away goal rule and added the alternate format from UEFA Revival

I'm making an alternate for files #51 and #52. These will have the away goal rule removed.

4 hours ago, smugleafraptors said:

I tried your suggestion, but at line 565 it shows  <integer id="nation" value="801"/> instead of verf. There is no "verf" in your xml files. 

Please mind that i don't use steam for my fm19, i can't use it after purchasing the game.

Did you make any changes to the file in the editor before trying this? If you make some changes in the editor and then save+export the file as XML, the line containing "verf" should be there. The process needs to be done whenever you make changes in the editor.

[smugleafraptors]

I use the FM19.1 editor for trying this, it doesn't show me that it is verified even if i try to apply edits to the editor

[smugleafraptors]

Quote

Did you make any changes to the file in the editor before trying this? If you make some changes in the editor and then save+export the file as XML, the line containing "verf" should be there. The process needs to be done whenever you make changes in the editor.

Notepad++ shows the verf at line 29052

[Carlito85]

10 hours ago, smugleafraptors said:

Notepad++ shows the verf at line 29052

If you imported it straight into the FM19 editor and saved it, you might possibly be able to just use it straight away in FM19 without having to make any changes in that case. Put the XML file in your FM19 editor data folder and see if you can start a save with it

[HugoLazgo12]

14 hours ago, Carlito85 said:

I'm making an alternate for files #51 and #52. These will have the away goal rule removed.

Did you make any changes to the file in the editor before trying this? If you make some changes in the editor and then save+export the file as XML, the line containing "verf" should be there. The process needs to be done whenever you make changes in the editor.

so anyways what alternate from files the alternate format of uefa competions

[smugleafraptors]

5 hours ago, Carlito85 said:

If you imported it straight into the FM19 editor and saved it, you might possibly be able to just use it straight away in FM19 without having to make any changes in that case. Put the XML file in your FM19 editor data folder and see if you can start a save with it

It doesn't show the file at all on the FM19.1 editor data file, or on any other folder.

Is it possible for you to convert the FM21 uefa revival files of files 51-52 and file 58 into fm20?, as my fm19.1 editor is capable of verifying fm20 files, but not fm21 or fm18 or older files. In your FM20 and FM19 Uefa Revival Packs every file in it works perfectly.

Edited July 2, 2021 by smugleafraptors

[Carlito85]

22 hours ago, HugoLazgo12 said:

so anyways what alternate from files the alternate format of uefa competions

I'm adding alternates for files 51 and 52, as well as 2 default base files (excluding the Intertoto Cup) for people to create their own competitions.

19 hours ago, smugleafraptors said:

It doesn't show the file at all on the FM19.1 editor data file, or on any other folder.

Is it possible for you to convert the FM21 uefa revival files of files 51-52 and file 58 into fm20?, as my fm19.1 editor is capable of verifying fm20 files, but not fm21 or fm18 or older files. In your FM20 and FM19 Uefa Revival Packs every file in it works perfectly.

Yeah I'll try and get that done over the weekend for you.

[Carlito85]

@smugleafraptors Here you go, bud.

UEFA Revival 51.fmf UEFA Revival 52.fmf UEFA Revival 58.fmf

[smugleafraptors]

1 hour ago, Carlito85 said:

@smugleafraptors Here you go, bud.

UEFA Revival 51.fmf 36.19 kB · 0 downloads UEFA Revival 52.fmf 36.75 kB · 0 downloads UEFA Revival 58.fmf 32.94 kB · 0 downloads

Thanks a lot for the files sir, much appreciated!

[smugleafraptors]

I have realized that there are several issues with the files of 51-52 on FM19, namely that the Europa Conference league does not show up at all on the database, and that the Europa league doesn't work in the League stage (Only 16 teams are in the League stage). The Champions League works as intended, with the only issue being that the teams only play 5 different opponents home and away for 10 games. The ESL works fine as intended at the very least, but 8 teams still participate in the UCL.

Edited July 4, 2021 by smugleafraptors

[smugleafraptors]

Here are the screenshots to help

[Carlito85]

1 hour ago, smugleafraptors said:

Here are the screenshots to help

It's likely due to competition dates that these problems are showing up. I'd also guess that if certain teams are being grabbed for a competition they will need to be changed as in FM19 they will have had different league finishes. There were quite a few moving parts when putting the files together in FM21 and it was quite problematic getting the whole thing to work.

[OllieDrew]

These files are brilliant please keep up the good work. I am using file 51 with the new Champions League format. I am pretty good with the editor but I cant change the fixtures days. Instead of having 18 games on a Wednesday is there anyway to have 9 fixtures on the Tuesday and 9 fixtures on the Wednesday?? Any help would be most appreciated.

[Duke_Thanos96]

Hello Carlito85

I am trying to create a European database with the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia. I want to recreate the European Club Competitions with only the champions qualifying for the Champion's Cup, the full knockout form of the UEFA cup and the Cup Winner's cup. My question is: How can I create the qualifying system for the European Competitions?

[Carlito85]

On 12/07/2021 at 19:33, OllieDrew said:

These files are brilliant please keep up the good work. I am using file 51 with the new Champions League format. I am pretty good with the editor but I cant change the fixtures days. Instead of having 18 games on a Wednesday is there anyway to have 9 fixtures on the Tuesday and 9 fixtures on the Wednesday?? Any help would be most appreciated.

Thanks.

If you want to divide the games between Tuesday and Wednesday, click on the round you want to change and then click on the 'Dates' tab. Tick the 'Offset Dates' option and add 2 rows with the first offset as '0' and the second offset as '1'. Leave the stadium option as 'Home' and then simply choose the number of matches you want on each day. You'll need to do this for matches 1 and 2 if the round has 2 legs, which in almost all of my files it will.

To edit the dates in a group stage, go to 'League Schedule' and click on the 'General' tab. You'll need to set up individual group rules, so if there are 8 groups you need to set groups 0-3 to play on Tuesday and groups 4-7 to play on Wednesday. To do this, tick the 'Group Indices' box and then add 4 rows (0-3) and the number of teams in the group (this will likely be 4 in most cases). You then need to enter the individual league settings - you might be able to copy this from League Settings (All Groups). From there you just need to sort out the match schedule (Tuesdays for this section) and you can then duplicate the whole thing so you have 2 indices, and change everything in the second one so the matches are on Wednesdays.

4 hours ago, Duke_Thanos96 said:

Hello Carlito85

I am trying to create a European database with the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia. I want to recreate the European Club Competitions with only the champions qualifying for the Champion's Cup, the full knockout form of the UEFA cup and the Cup Winner's cup. My question is: How can I create the qualifying system for the European Competitions?

This format is already included, but I forget which file it is. There is a file guide included with the download to help you choose which one you want to use. You would have to edit the nations though as they don't include the older ones that you're after.

 

Just a note to anyone who was interested in the update, it's gonna be a while before I can get around to finishing it now as I have some personal stuff to tend to. I'll try and get around to the update when I can but right now I can't put an exact time on it.

[OllieDrew]

Thanks for the info!! Tried to sort it but it's not working for me. I must be doing something wrong. Maybe im not so good at the editor after all lol. Any chance you can do this for me when you get some spare time. Thanks