rowan vine vine vine Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Basically i was day dreaming about stuff as you do and i got onto the subject of fm . I was thinking about when i play lower teams and i go looking for young players on a free . You dont really ever get a surprise , players have potential set low and thats it . I then got thinking about players who slip through the net in real life , things dont work out for them at there first club but a change of scenery makes all the difference when they get released and after a few years of the radar they start to get themselves noticed and into the big time again . So how about players having the ability to have a boost to there potential when they get released and start training in new surroundings ? at the moment young players seem to black and white for me . Players do make massive jumps in ability as they get older theres a good few late bloomers about . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekluse Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Agreed, there's a good number of people crying out for the current CA/PA system to be thrown away and redone from scratch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoham Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 That should be possible without having to change the CA/PA system. A players PA shouldn't change, but clubs should make mistakes and release players they don't think will make it. I'm sure it must happen occasionally in game already? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekluse Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 That should be possible without having to change the CA/PA system.A players PA shouldn't change, but clubs should make mistakes and release players they don't think will make it. I'm sure it must happen occasionally in game already? I don't usually look at editors so not sure but I can always tell if a player has a high PA, not because his attributes raise noticeably faster but simply because their value rises faster than other players on their level. I don't know what the correlation is between CA/PA and player value but it seems rather silly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdunk Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 It might seem silly, but to a certain extent, it's right. Take Rooney for example, at 16 (before he'd even played a first team game), his value was probably far higher than pretty much any other 16 year old in the world, because of how good he could potentially become. And there's no need to change the PA/CA system, all that's needed is more variation in how players develop towards their PA, so some players stagnate, some players develop later in their careers and so on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo1986 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Big thumbs up needs a hardcore redo! At the moment a player never seems to graduate up the leagues, only downwards. For example, you rarely see a Championship club raiding League One/Two clubs which happens a fair bit in real life - or even L2 to Prem e.g.: Jon Stead. Edit: Just to add, I often like buying players from Lower Leagues, which is generally why I end up doing crap! :-D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Potential is always there and don't change, maybe they don't reach there potential as quickly with one club as they would with another! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo-Bongo Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 The CA/PA system doesn't need to be changed in the slightest. It's the development model that needs improving, allowing for much a more varied level of development for players so that you see some players that develop quickly and become stars (Messi etc), some that develop quickly and but peak very early (Jeffers) and some that only become well known much later in their careers (Toni). None of this would require a change to the PA system, just to the development model, and with the sounds of it, this MAY be happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekluse Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 It might seem silly, but to a certain extent, it's right. Take Rooney for example, at 16 (before he'd even played a first team game), his value was probably far higher than pretty much any other 16 year old in the world, because of how good he could potentially become.And there's no need to change the PA/CA system, all that's needed is more variation in how players develop towards their PA, so some players stagnate, some players develop later in their careers and so on. He had to show great potential to achieve this, I get regens who are absolute crap with several attributes important to their position being well below standard yet because their PA is high their value just goes up and up and teams chase that striker with 9 accel, and 8 fin instead of the same aged striker whose leading my youth team in goals with 17 accel and 10 fin. I just have been completely unimpressed with the CA/PA system for years and I surely hope they improve it by leaps and bounds within the next couple of releases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitja Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 It might seem silly, but to a certain extent, it's right. Take Rooney for example, at 16 (before he'd even played a first team game), his value was probably far higher than pretty much any other 16 year old in the world, because of how good he could potentially become. yeah I heard Nostradamus told that some crazy looking Everton fella will be really good football playerin the beggining of 21st century Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizan Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 yeah I heard Nostradamus told that some crazy looking Everton fella will be really good football playerin the beggining of 21st century LMAO Funniest comment I've heard in so long!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Still can't stop laughing as I write this!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robzilla Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Agreed, there's a good number of people crying out for the current CA/PA system to be thrown away and redone from scratch. Yes must be all of about 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerner Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 it just needs a tweak thats all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 it just needs a tweak thats all. Yes, I agree, no need to delete it, just make it better! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drunkpunk Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 The CA/PA system doesn't need to be changed in the slightest. It's the development model that needs improving, allowing for much a more varied level of development for players so that you see some players that develop quickly and become stars (Messi etc), some that develop quickly and but peak very early (Jeffers) and some that only become well known much later in their careers (Toni). None of this would require a change to the PA system, just to the development model, and with the sounds of it, this MAY be happening. Agree with this completely. The more variation the better. Would also be nice to see players who peek, dip, peek over the course of their career. The CA/PA system is fine, AI just needs to make bad signings and judgements more often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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