aMunoz Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Hello there, I'm using the following players: Sebastian Barrientos Francisco Pizarro Michael Silva I know they are not good, but I'm sure they are in the level of the league I'm playing (maybe a little lower) That Michael Silva is the one I'm using on the AMC spot. I prefer to play a low lvl team and work my way to the big ones. Thanks in advance!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
makmak Posted November 14, 2009 Author Share Posted November 14, 2009 Michael silva= Traquarista or advanced playmaker-support (if you dont have deep lying one) Barrientos = deep lying forward/support (long shots on rare) Pizarro= advanced forward or poacher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayleehammer Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 while ya at it makmak drogba and rossi lol??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
makmak Posted November 14, 2009 Author Share Posted November 14, 2009 Drogba can play anything...any role Rossi..i guess you mean AMC spot...He has creativity and passing, also finishing and good physical stats, so he to, can play anything. Experiment what fits both the most. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
valkingcity Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 do you use opposition instructions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
makmak Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 do you use opposition instructions? i do not.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anadolu2020 Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 Firstly, it's a very good tactic, makmak. problem is, when playing against a 4-4-2 team, there is too many space on wings for defense. i tried to pull the Amc back to mc position to solve this, but i am not happy because i cannot get much profit from Riquelme. what's your resolve to that problem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
makmak Posted November 15, 2009 Author Share Posted November 15, 2009 1. try to put fullbacks on defend 2. try to play with more deep defence line Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vusalgustav Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Firstly, it's a very good tactic, makmak.problem is, when playing against a 4-4-2 team, there is too many space on wings for defense. i tried to pull the Amc back to mc position to solve this, but i am not happy because i cannot get much profit from Riquelme. what's your resolve to that problem? First and most important thing is to lay your pitch narrow where wingers have less effect. This will enable your team play on the favourable pitch half of the season. Fast full backs are essential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjericho Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 i'm still trying to get my milan 4-1-2-1-2 to work, but i'm not getting great results. i might have to use your tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anadolu2020 Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 makmak and vusalgustay, thanks. what i realized is if you have a player like gokhan inler for box to box midfielder, you don't worry too much. he is amazing, pressing opposition wingers and winning balls. the other centre midfielder is Nuri Sahin, who is poor at defending, but after all it's a very good tactic with some tweaks. thanks again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
makmak Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 If you have surplus of midfilders i also sugest trying 4-4-2 brazilian box system. Im playing with sporting and this tactic has been working awesome for me and its great to watch. Conciving very few goals and that goals are usualy fluks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankk Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 this tactic works wonderful for low league team. I've started with siracusa, in lega pro 2 (italy), and i've won the league with 10 points ahead the second Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbreach51 Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Thanks for posting this tactic, from the positive responses u can tell its making alot of people's FM experience alot less stressful. I used this tactic with Man City and won the premiership in the first season, Dzeko, Mexes, De Rossi and Vargas helped obviously but this tactic was, as you said, solid at the back which allowed me the freedom to experiment with attacking combinations that worked. I was especially pleased in the first season at how well my team did against the big 4 in EPL, contested nearly every game home and away and thats all u can ask for really. The problem now is that I have a world class team and their reputation in the game has gone up, Im usually heavily odds on to win every match... but its actually far from it. Towards the end of the second season I started shipping a tremendous amount of goals, conceeded 12 in 3 games to average opposition. Lost 10 out of 15 games including the FA cup final, and finished second in the league, from a pretty much certain first place. This happened pretty much out of the blue, my attack seemed to be more and more ineffectual and the oppositions attack (especially wingers, lots of headed goals) started to dominate me. I know there's always been a concept on FM about second-seasonitis where u have to adapt to survive, but I dont want to change something which results so in the tactic losing what it was based around and therefore becomes ineffectual anyway. My team has gelled now and the players are absolute quality yet the football im playing is **** and I conceed aload of goals. Any Suggestions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
makmak Posted November 22, 2009 Author Share Posted November 22, 2009 ..I know there's always been a concept on FM about second-seasonitis where u have to adapt to survive, but I dont want to change something which results so in the tactic losing what it was based around and therefore becomes ineffectual anyway. My team has gelled now and the players are absolute quality yet the football im playing is **** and I conceed aload of goals. Any Suggestions? Obviosly it isn`t working as it used to right? So you should change something. Try this updated version: http://www.filefront.com/14974961/4-1-2-1-2-newcastle%20lippi%20stile+stpcs333%20%28Newcastle%2C%20Nov%202010%29.tac This version has updated roles. 2 wingbacks are now set on automatic. DM is now defensive midfilder. Two CM are CM-support and box to box midfilder. I optimised set peaces settings. AMC is now advanced playmaker, if your AMC hasnt got creativity/decisions/passing switch to other options. Two forwards are now TM and full forward. But i have attacking duo in Cardoso/Mylievsky, so once again switch to something that is appropriate to your players. Dzeko is fenomenal as a tm so, the right spot is good. I use this version with newly promoted newcastle team and im sitting on top of the premiership table at the moment. Doubtfully im staying there, but still, its a good tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbreach51 Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 Cheers mate ill give it a go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayleehammer Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 what do u prefer mak mak the new or old version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
makmak Posted December 9, 2009 Author Share Posted December 9, 2009 Honestly, im dont use eather any more. I went in the 4-2-2-2 box direction now. I use this formation for my home-attacking games and 4-5-1 version for away-caution games. But to answer your question, i used the last posted version for my Newcastle save and it worked like a charm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayleehammer Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 niice stuff u have a link to your new tactic i fancy a new one, done trying me own i think lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarchinOn2Getha Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Just thought I would thank you for this tactic. You have saved my job!!! I'm in my second season with Reading and, after setting up a tactic that worked wonders in the Championship (with me working my way from 19th to 5th and winning the playoffs!!), I just couldnt work out how to gain points in the Premiership. I know I have a very poor squad for this league as obviously I didnt have any money in the first season and had limited resources available to build my side after promotion (also not helped by a board takeover meaning I couldnt make any transfers in August!!). However, this tactic (the Lippi 1 especially) has seen me rise from bottom to a respectable 13th. My team is: GK Adam Federici RB Lucas Neill LB Liam Rosenior CB Matt Mills CB Alex Pearce DM Khalifa Cisse/Liam Bridcutt CM Brian Howard/Glenn Whelan (new signing) CM Darron Gibson AMC Marek Matejovsky/James Wallace ST Shane Long ST James Vaughan/Gregorz Rasiak Many Many Thanks Again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamzarie Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Makmak, Have tried your the update version on my game... So great... won 1-0 over arsenal on carling cup 4th round my team - Rotherham United (League Two) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
makmak Posted December 10, 2009 Author Share Posted December 10, 2009 Makmak,Have tried your the update version on my game... So great... won 1-0 over arsenal on carling cup 4th round my team - Rotherham United (League Two) Thats just one game man...try it for at least 10 games:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyboy16 Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 I've always been skeptical of downloading tactics but just could not get the most out of my 41212 even though I seemed to have perfect players to make it work, so I downloaded to see if it worked. And boy I must say Makmak you have done well. First game with the 262 4-0 win. Well done. EDIT: One question though. What if I want it to be more defensive? Do I put the overall mentality to defensive or what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
makmak Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 I've always been skeptical of downloading tactics but just could not get the most out of my 41212 even though I seemed to have perfect players to make it work, so I downloaded to see if it worked. And boy I must say Makmak you have done well. First game with the 262 4-0 win. Well done.EDIT: One question though. What if I want it to be more defensive? Do I put the overall mentality to defensive or what? You would have to lower mentality for players..or you can try to play more narow with short pasing.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillyboy16 Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 You would have to lower mentality for players..or you can try to play more narow with short pasing.. Due the fact that I'm lazy I decided to use your basic formation with the roles and duties you'd given players with the change being I put all of the advanced sliders back to computer generated that way I could more easily switch from attack to defend. I think the biggest key of your formation were the roles and duties you gave players and the fact that you put the two CM players who would normally have "hold up ball" as "yes" to "no" and you made the fullbacks attack to give the formation width, because without them on attack, or support at the very least, the formation has no width. This makes for a great quick passing formation that I love to watch and has been working for me so far. One thing I noticed is that it's important not to have the team on short passing or else the midfield just passes to itself all day long. LONG LIVE THE 4-1-2-1-2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
makmak Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 Well, even with short passing, i always leave my midfiled creative player-s passing to "mixed". I never tryed this tactic with "auto" mentality, i was trying different managerial philosophyies and this two worked best. I kind of doubt that this tactic works so well just because of given roles. When the game came out i tryed a lot of tactic with wizard and never been successfull, specialy in defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamzarie Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Thats just one game man...try it for at least 10 games:) My friends.... I tried it for about 30++ games... And it absolute good tactic for my lower team.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickyt11 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Good tactic, but will this now be affected by the new 10.2 patch? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
makmak Posted December 17, 2009 Author Share Posted December 17, 2009 Dont know mate, try it.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
valkingcity Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 10.2 has destroyed these tactics, at least in my experience. The passing and movement seems to be disjointed and unorganized, defense seems to be OK(it was always spotty on set pieces and corners). I was enjoying these tactics, hope they can be fixed for 10.2, the team doesn't seem to create much, even against vastly weaker sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechanizator Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Awful tactics. While playing Attacking strategy all 90 minutes, results are following: Aston Villa (A) 1:1 Burnley (H) 2:4 Tottenham (A) 1:2 West Ham (H) 0:4 No possession in midfield. Forwards shoot from uncomfortable positions. Players exhausted by 60th minute, especially MCs. Fullbacks make too many faults - average mark 5,8 - 6,0. Starting with standard strategy is not possible: almost all sliders should be moved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechanizator Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 I have quite a good squad: Demba Ba - Jovetic Afellay Vukcevic - Amrabat Leandro Somoza Van Damme - Jorgensen - Shawcross - Demel Hennessy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corkey Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 I have quite a good squad:Demba Ba - Jovetic Afellay Vukcevic - Amrabat Leandro Somoza Van Damme - Jorgensen - Shawcross - Demel Hennessy Amrabat is a Striker/Winger. Not a Central midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big-Murph Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 The download isn't working for me Could you upload it to another site by any chance? What are results like with this tactics on the 10.2 patch? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somedevil Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 works great on 10.3 with the same old Milan i just cant get boriello to score which is so annoying ! pato is flying ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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