dangerpuss Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 I've been training Joao Moutinho as a DM and he's now accomplished. Can I stop training the new position? And will it eventually change to natural if I keep on training the position? He's very versatile if that matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4L Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 You can certainly get him to natural, as I've done this with several players in my squad. If you then discontinue the position training just keep playing him in the new position and he should keep it as natural. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerpuss Posted January 26, 2010 Author Share Posted January 26, 2010 Thanks a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 So a learned positional ability cannot decrease if you discontinue training for it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssestig Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Not if you keep playing him there jayahr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Okay, but that you need to do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I trained a DC player up too natural DR mainly because he was never going to make a DC at 5.9 and 4 jump, It took about 2 year. I had him playing at his training pos in the reserves and only ever play him in that position for my team. Once he reached natural I stopped training him. Now he is going back down. I signed a player who was a natural right winger. The previous club must have been training him that way because despite only playing him as a right winger he lost the ability to play their completly without me even noticing. I'm not going to bother doing it anymore. In the long run its not worth it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
x42bn6 Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 It will drop again. It's "faux natural" - appears natural, but will eventually drop. I did some suggestions here but nobody replied. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffious Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 It will drop again. It's "faux natural" - appears natural, but will eventually drop. I did some suggestions here but nobody replied. Those saddened smilies are really rather affecting. What scant recognition for a such a feverishly thought out thread! People can be a bastardly breed. Anyway, I think the position-keeping isn't perfect, but sadly there are millions more prominent problems, mon frere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
x42bn6 Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 True, but I do want to make more John O'Sheas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
private pyle Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 surely once a player is natural he should keep the natural status whether he plays there or not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 I have noticed if you loan someone from another club who is training a new position they automatically start training that new position at your club. You can stop position training him if you want so that means other clubs who loan your players probably can too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickballz Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 There is no point training a player for a new position unless you intend to play him there, so no, don't continue training him after he has learned it. Playing regularly in that position is enough. If he is a utility player then leave him as he is. Don't waste training for the occasional game in an unfamiliar position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 There is no point training a player for a new position unless you intend to play him there, so no, don't continue training him after he has learned it. Playing regularly in that position is enough.If he is a utility player then leave him as he is. Don't waste training for the occasional game in an unfamiliar position. Not for me it wasnt. As soon as I stop training they start fogetting. I only play them in there training position because I only train people who wont be good at their natural position or would be better in another position. I trained a few MCs with good crossing to wingers because there is a load of MCs in my game but no wingers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swed151 Posted February 6, 2010 Share Posted February 6, 2010 I've started to ignore positions and just stick players where I think they would do best. They seem to do well even without having 'accomplished' or 'natural' position knowledge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterstroke Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 Arsene Wenger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudToBeCroat Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 I had a player whose poistional ability dropped from natural to 15 or 16 accomplished after I stopped training him in the postition. He was the first-choice centre back so I thought there's no need to add unnecesarry workload. So, his ability dropped, but after a couple of months two of my left-backs got injured so I played him on the left side again, and after 3-4 games it again glowed as natural and remained that way ever since. I just think after the positional training is over you need to play him a few times in that position during the season to keep it natural. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjericho Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 he drops the natural status even if you keep playing him at that position. i'd say you have to play him AND keep the training Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keremkrk Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 he drops the natural status even if you keep playing him at that position. i'd say you have to play him AND keep the training you people are doing at least something wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robzilla Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 he drops the natural status even if you keep playing him at that position. i'd say you have to play him AND keep the training This is true in my experience too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robzilla Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 you people are doing at least something wrong. So................ any idea what then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Yes. You have to rub a goat while singing Papua New Guinea's national anthem. That should sort you out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robzilla Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Yes. You have to rub a goat while singing Papua New Guinea's national anthem. That should sort you out Tried that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Can you do it again in front of a camera and put it on YouTube? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMister Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Can you do it again in front of a camera and put it on YouTube? LMAO! It would be like a new episode of Monty Python Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyyen Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 In my experience if the player is a regular starter, once he's natural he wont drop his status even if he stops learning the new position, but if he is a backup and doesnt play regularly, then you have to keep training him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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