Matej Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 i have AMR player, he was yellow on AML. i trained him for AML and he is playing there. now he is green on AML. i want to remove new position training from him, so he can train 100% on inside forward training. problem i had on previous versions of FM, when i removed position training from player, he lost green very fast and it was yellow again. or even worse, he lose that position completley. is it same on this version of FM13? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Even on FM12 you could remove him from the position training aslong as you still play him in the new position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matej Posted December 28, 2012 Author Share Posted December 28, 2012 tnx. yes, but in FM12, when I removed position training and he didnt play on that position for lets say 5 games, he lost that position. if u understand what i am saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 You have to keep playing him in the new regular or he'll lose it. But once he's learnt it you can change his training but he must still play that position in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abhid30007 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 u can remove position training once it becomes natural for him (usually 1.5-2 seasons depends upon how much versatile he is). Until then play him there and train him for new position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matej Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 You have to keep playing him in the new regular or he'll lose it. But once he's learnt it you can change his training but he must still play that position in the team. he must learn accomplished or even better, natural? when can i remove him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
betts1411 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 pretty stupid feature. you dont forget how to play somewhere once you're natural. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
to_madeira Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 If you train until become natural, you can remove without forget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewis999 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 If you train until become natural, you can remove without forget. Is that a 100% fact? I'm not disputing it but it would be good to know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff AlienIR Posted January 14, 2013 SI Staff Share Posted January 14, 2013 IMO, once a player is natural you can remove the training; at all the player can not learn more that what he already knows. The main matters; as told Cleon, is to make him play in the new position. This is quite logical...if you train a player to a new position; it's just to make him play there. If not..it just means that actually he doesn't need to learn this new position. Have a nice day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterawesome Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 If you're training a player in a new role, do you also need to be playing him in that new position the whole time? For example, if training an AMC to also play as a Striker, can you successfully rotate him between the positions? I assume it just means it might take him longer to get natural at the new position. I'd like to avoid losing a key player to a "season in transition" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakes Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 If you're training a player in a new role, do you also need to be playing him in that new position the whole time? For example, if training an AMC to also play as a Striker, can you successfully rotate him between the positions? I assume it just means it might take him longer to get natural at the new position. I'd like to avoid losing a key player to a "season in transition" It'll take longer if he's not playing the position you're training, and depending on his hidden adaptability attribute he may never become a natural at the new position unless he plays there exclusively. Likewise if you're switching him between multiple positions you may need to leave him permanently on training: some plays will lose natural after only a game or two in their old position without constant training. I hate dealing with those players, even if you're careful it can happen because their national manager or your reserve manager plays them there! Really though it's not a big deal since players play fine even if they're only accomplished, I just get obsessive about the bright green dots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levau Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 If you train until become natural, you can remove without forget. I beg to differ. Recently I have re-trained a striker to play MC. I trained him until he was natural in MC and he is a starter in my first team as a MC. Despite that he lost the "natural" status in MC the same season. Pretty irritating that he slowly forgets about the position he always plays in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazza22299 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 So if a player "Loses" this position does it go all the way down to red? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levau Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 He is still an accomplished MC for me and I will not train him in the MC-spot anymore to see how much competence he will lose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakes Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 So if a player "Loses" this position does it go all the way down to red? It will gradually go down, I have seen a player lose a position completely over the course of several seasons (I had trained him for DM from scratch and then changed to a formation that no longer used that position). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I beg to differ. Recently I have re-trained a striker to play MC. I trained him until he was natural in MC and he is a starter in my first team as a MC. Despite that he lost the "natural" status in MC the same season. Pretty irritating that he slowly forgets about the position he always plays in. This isn't true at all. He'd not lose natural once it reaches natural and you still play him there. He'd only lose it if you stopped him playing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepydude Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 how do you lose natural position? if player has only one natural position and he is on the bench for half a season does he become a waiter or chef if i do not use him?i think it is quite stupid players lose their natural positions. id also argue once position becomes acomplished it shouldnt disappear. others i have no objections. I agree, a player should never lose a natural position. I mean, that's his "natural" game, why would he forget how to play it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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