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The MC game just used 105pt.

I've only used for a few games with the Knappers but getting good results and won an away game against a league 1 side Brighton. Same league opposition get a roasting.

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I started the season with the 100pt and then changed to 105pts and not sure you can see a join. A 105pt should be better than 100pt over the long term.

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I started the season with the 100pt and then changed to 105pts and not sure you can see a join. A 105pt should be better than 100pt over the long term.

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match prep ?

pitch size ?

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match prep Ass Man

Pitch standard

Training standard

No coach additions or staff changes

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Knap

Still having a bit of trouble getting possession over 48% on average, can you recommend any tweaks to improve this?

Steve

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Come on! :(

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39% possession! And a Home game!!!

I may have to change tactics :( :(

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The tactics are result based not possession based. Most of my MC games were about 50:50 but Lpool were low as I suspect this is the way Lpool are set up. However, I still won away from Home against Lpool with low possession.

The AI play in very weird ways as just from highlights at times, if the AI SUS then there are no highlights and the tactic may force them to play in this manner more than usual especially away from home. The season with MC scored 122 goals which is well above a standard 1st season EPL win.

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With a very good squad possession goes up to more like 60% and is very high scoring so appears to be how the AI play against the tactic rather than the tactic settings.

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Knap

Goals scored aint a problem, if anything, i'm scoring too much goals ;) Its just I can't keep playing with such poor possession! Yes, i'm winning games, but not really with much style. I'm not trying to put the tactic down, because it does get results, I just feel it could get similar results, whilst still keeping better possession?

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How is possession with the 100pts or FM10 tactic update?

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I know this is only one match, so does not show the full picture, but I have replayed the Liverpool game with the exact same squad as above screenshot.

First result with the FM10 Tactic update:

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And lastly with the 100pts tactic:

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After watching the games, and again, I know its only one match, it is clear that they all are good in attack. The 100pts certainly allows the opposition more chances at goal than the new 105pts tactic, and they all seem the same possession wise. I have used the 100pts tactic alot, and can say that it does keep more possession that the 105pts tactic. I guess they all have there good/negative sides, just wish the 105pts tactic kept a little more possession.

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As an underdog tactic the 105pt is working very well and it may be just that the only way the AI can play against the tactic is to try to keep possession.

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do you have link to the 2 tactics you have used m8? :)

The MC game just used 105pt.

I've only used for a few games with the Knappers but getting good results and won an away game against a league 1 side Brighton. Same league opposition get a roasting.

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Finally I managed to find this thread again ;)

Unfortunately here at work I cannot see any of the pictures posted and can't search the forums much either.

If not asking too much, I got some response to the "the rock" tactics, which I got several months back (cannot find the name of these tactics on page one, but it was an extremely long file name, with lots of !!! in the beginning and I am pretty sure something with chelsea too... classic 442)

Now I can't say much, because I managed to get AFC Telford promoted to the Premier League using these tactics by 2019 and managed to keep them up as well.

My main observation was, that the full-backs have forward runs on rarely and I also noticed that they more often than any other players get below average ratings, so to say the achilles-tendon of the formation. Have you had any testing with these, as to set forward runs to normal or often? Or using a F-arrow?

Another observation is that the MCs, and I do have world-class players there, also always seem to get the standard 6.9 ratings, giving the impression (I dont have much time to play, so I dont really watch the scenes) that they are there to fill the gap, but do not really participate in the game that much. Any experiments with long shots and other changes to involve them a bit more?

The wingers make the game, sometimes I move them to the AM position if I am trailing and more often than not this is paying off. They score and assist more than the entire rest of the team together.

Strikers... hard to tell, as it is with strikers... often at the verge of being subbed with a miserable performance and then suddenly 2 goals, from zero to hero. Guess that is just how it is with strikers in real life :p

Any feedback on these tactics ( if you can figure out which ones I am referring to, otherwise I'll look it up) are appreciated... if there is a "follow up" version available, it is appreciated. I am so short on time that I appreciate every second of playing, therefor dont have much time to fiddle around, I just wanna use nice tactics to enhance my playing joy ;) working quite well so far!

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often at the verge of being subbed with a miserable performance - I seldom sub a star player for the zero to hero reason.

The rock uses down both flanks DBF in title so would avoid MCs a little, but is to get round back of defence.

The latest 105pts tactic is a mixed tactic.

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makes sense and is fair enough, happy with my MCs performing average anyways, always better than badly lol

have you had any fiddling around with the full-backs? Their performance is my biggest worry really. Wondering how forward runs would do for them, but am not in a position to experiment, so I dont get Telford relegated :p

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ok, then maybe I got some strange version of it with FB runs on rarely, will sort it out tonight and see if I get better results, would assume so, cheers. Rather make some adjustments than embrace new tactics... after 10 (in game) years of using it, I don't see a reason to change anything :)

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No AI cracking tactics then!

I might have to play in the same league for a few consecutive years, in order to say for sure, but by 2021 or whatever year I am in now, I notice a slight better performance every year, due to better players of course.

Only league I have spent 3 or 4 years in was the Championship and my tactics certainly were not cracked there in that time, otherwise a small club like Telford would still be there, if even.

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Knap was it 105pts tactic for results above with Knappers???

Here is my Liverpool result with the 103pts tactic you posted above:

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I started with the 100pts then changed to 105pts. Only loss all season was to Huddersfield and even then they were a bit lucky in replay.

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ill we be happy, if u just can write the link here to the 2 tactics u have used with them knap :) you make very good tactics!

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btw, checked the full-back settings last night and was referring to "run with ball" instead of "forward runs"... shows how little I have been dealing with tactics myself for the past few versions :p

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Another season with the Knappers and 105pts tactic.

Impressive. Do you always make sure you sign a top class assistant manager to give team talks etc? I love 4-4-2, but I can't get anywhere near replicating the success you've had with your 100pt or 105 pt tactics. I normally use Genie Scout to search for players (tried using both Scout Rating and Current Ability on different saves) so I know when I've got a decent team, and I'm using the same tactic as you, so I can only assume it must be my team talks.

Maybe, as an experiment, I should use a save game editor to give my assistant all 20's and see if that makes a difference?!

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Millsinho

I rarely change staff and the Ass Man is still the original and does all team talks and press.

I can set a game up for you as it can only be player buying.

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I rarely change staff and the Ass Man is still the original and does all team talks and press.

I can set a game up for you as it can only be player buying.

I know you said that you often use the in-game star ratings that scouts provide when you are looking for players. If I understand correctly, these are measures of Current Ability and Potential Ability, with an amount of error factored in to allow for the scout's ratings for Judging Ability and Judging Potential. Therefore, if I use Genie Scout to look for players with high Current Ability, it should be the same (or even better, as it would be like having a scout with 20/20 judging attributes).

Maybe I'm just signing too many players. It might be worth starting a new game and playing the first season with the original squad?

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It's easier to start Lower League and completely change squad. I can either use a top squad with no additions or completely change squad if you buy early, it should make no difference. It's best to have a gameplan day 1 about signings.

Wih Genie look at positional rating and then Scout normally. The scout will usually say quality of several Leagues above or twice player X.

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Thanks for your advice Knap. I'm going to start a new game following your principles from the beginning, so that I can give the tactic the best chance of producing the goods.

Once you've assembled a squad that you're happy with, do you normally pick your strongest starting eleven based on your scout's/assistant manager's star ratings then, or do you just trust your own judgement/use Genie Scout Ratings etc?

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Let the Ass Man pick team

Then look at fixture list and note key games for when you need your best side.

Rotate players as necessary for condition or needing game time to keep them happy etc.

With Genie look at club positional rating and work out how good your squad needs to be and buy appropriate players as high above that rating as possible. Use good player guide to identify transfer targets. With youth players look at potential positional rating although this will change over seasons.

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Knap with the 105pt tactic do you have the strikers setup in any particular way? Eg, left striker as the quicker one etc?

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Never use OIs.

I just buy good players but tend towards an attacking and defensive midfield partnership and a TM FS strike partnership. However, injuries and condition often mean you have to go with what is available, so a good all round squad is useful.

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I'm with Cardiff City in my 2nd season after gaining promotion, ive been using the rock442england2018 11pts from 26 games !!!

Most probs the players I have are just not good enough.

Should I tweak more defensive approach away ?

Help please ???

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The 105pts probably has the edge with a mid table side so may be worth a try.

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I used your 105pts tactic throughout my entire first season managing Oldham Athletic in League 1. My media prediction was to finish 14th, and my original Genie Scout club rating was also 14th. After making a few new signings during pre-season, my Genie Scout club rating increased to rank me 7th in League 1, which I guess is a reasonable measure of what I should have been able to achieve.

Below are a few screenshots to show how I actually did. I must admit I was a bit dubious after a complete trouncing at the hands of Leicester early on, but decided to stick with it. Needless to say it was worth it.

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I'm expecting a difficult first season in the Championship, but looking forward to seeing how it plays out.

Thanks once again for your tactical expertise and advice knap.

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It's good to see someone carry on past a couple of losses as it does happen.

A made a minor tweak but with MG update Spurs predicated 6th can finish 1st.

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It's only 1 down on mentality and 1 up on time wasting, but just adds enough for a weaker squad and I have keep Swansea up with standard squad.

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Great results knap, shame about your save crashing.

For me, the tactic is going from strength to strength. I'm currently sitting top of the Championship after my first 8 games since promotion from League 1. Not bad, considering my media prediction was 24th and, even after all my pre-season signings, my Genie Scout club rating was 22nd. My most recent result was a 6-0 demolition of Blackpool!

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