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About Atarin

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    Married with kids. Support Spurs and the mighty Leyton Orient. When not playing FM, I'm playing Minecraft or reading about politics which is my other great passion. "Workers of the World Unite!"

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    Formerly Teabs.


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    Politics. Football. History. Music.

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    Spurs/Leyton Orient

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    Borrowash Victoria

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  1. A couple of updates. Okay, so first all my save corrupted, which is a real shame. No fixtures loaded for the second season. It does give me a chance to try this tactic with some other sides though. I think I'm going to try Alfreton of the Vanarama North next. For some reason I'm always drawn to Borrowash, Alfreton and Mickleover. All three are Derbyshire teams. I'm not from Derbyshire so I have no idea why. The other thing I wanted to talk about is fullbacks. Fullbacks have always been a problem for me in FM. They're usually the weak link in any of my teams. They're in a crucial position, facing the paciest and trickiest player in the opposition team, the winger. They're also usually behind the least supportive player in my team (our winger, who usually isn't known for his teamwork and work rate). So they're isolated and under huge pressure. So, how does this tactic address that issue? First of all I tend to think of fullbacks as fitting into one of three defensive categories. First, you have your good fullbacks, next you have your okay fullbacks and lastly you have your useless fullbacks. Everyone gets to put into one of those defensive categories. Useless fullbacks need constant support and babysitting. Okay fullbacks need support some of the time and good fullbacks can be mostly left to get on with their job. Applying that scheme to my tactic works like this. If I have a good fullback then he goes behind the attacking winger to lock down that flank. If I have a useless fullback then he goes behind the WM(s) because that way we have a double banked flank and my fullback gets full protection. If you have two useless fullbacks then just try to do the best you can, play the slightly better one behind the attacking winger.
  2. Absolutely. It should work on any version, really. I developed the tactic in 20.1 and it doesn't use any ME exploits at all so nothing should have changed. Just remember that its not plug and play. Plug and Play tactics are exploit tactics. No tactic should be immune to changes in opposition tactics. You have to watch the match (you don't have to watch it on Full, I watch in on Comprehensive but you can even watch on Extended.) Just pay attention to where and why your transitions are breaking down. If the opposition are pinning you back then raise your mentality, if the opposition are sitting in then put your fullbacks on support and go wider. If you're behind and need a goal quickly then fullbacks on support, WM(s) to Winger support, mentality on attacking, BBM to CM(a) or AP(s), go wider and you can also use counter-pressing. If you've had a man sent off then sacrifice one of your strikers, the deeper one if the opposition are pushed up and the more advanced one if the opposition are sitting in. If your advanced striker is constantly getting caught off side then change them to DF(s) or DLF(a). These are just some of the things that I do.
  3. Okay, so first season is in the bag. Promotion is accomplished. It was very tough in the second half of the season. Injuries hit us hard so we had to dig in and accept some draws that should have been wins. Squad depth was something I just didn't have. A couple of things to mention, first of all you'll notice our fantastic Goals Against column. Only 30 goals conceded all season, the best in the division. We also had the top scorer in the division with 27 goals in 38 games. The really interesting statistic, though, is that he should have had three or four times as many. His conversion % was so appallingly bad that he didn't even make it onto the division's top 20 list for conversion rates which means his Percentage was at least below 16% because that's what number 20 on the list has. We created so, so many chances every game. He's a superb all-rounder and can make things happen but his final ball/shot is just rank. I'm contemplating moving him out to the right flank where there will be less pressure to finishing 1 v 1's. We'll have to see though. Basically though this tactic has been a beast for me. We're rock solid defensively and cut teams to ribbons on the break. You essentially create a front three of your strikers and your left winger bursting into space supported by your BBM and your WM on the right. That's a lot of bodies arriving in the box. The defensive structure works like a charm as well. There's absolutely things you could adapt about it. Don't be afraid to experiment. This is a simple foundation to build off of although with very few changes I've taken a team expected to finish 16th/17th and won promotion despite the struggles with injuries in the second half of the season, and as I alluded to in a bug report on that subforum I also lost two very important players to sudden retirement (with no warning) with three games of the season remaining and promotion still very much on. What I love about this tactic and what it has over lots of other tactics that I see is that its so basic that pretty much any side can use it. You don't need Inverted Wing Backs or False 9's or Segundo Valante's or any of that jazz. Just common or garden, run of the mill, bog standard, bloke down the pub roles and duties. Everyone should be able to field a team with a goalkeeper, a central defender, a limited defender, two defensive fullbacks, a defensive ball winner and a box to box midfielder, a wide midfielder on support and a winger on attack and a couple of defensive forwards, one on attack and one on defend.
  4. Its definitely not a Premier League phenomenon. I see the same thing happening at level 9 and 10. It does seem a tad counter-intuitive to have terrible teams tearing into you and playing hyper aggressive. I guess all you can do is see it as a challenge and try to adapt to it. Just remember that eleven players can't cover everywhere. If they're deep in your half then there's an absolute ton of space behind them. Its your job to punish their recklessness.
  5. I don't think its a new thing. It used to happen to me in FM18 & FM19 as well.
  6. I do have a back-up save from before they retired, yes. I've upload my file to the Si Cloud. The name of the file is 'Mark Powell - Borrowash (v02)' This should drop you in to the save on the 25th of April 2020, two days before the two players retire. I'm managing Borrowash in the 10th tier of English football and the players in question are Brendan Sweeney and Andy White.
  7. I don't know if this is the right sub-forum but here goes... I am two crucial games away from the end of the season (and promotion) and two of my most important players, one 38 years old and the other 37 have both retired on the same day with no warning given and no ability to persuade them to give me just a couple more games. They are now both non-players. Neither are injured or lacking match fitness. Both are getting playing time (one of them plays every game). The in-game date is 17th April 2020. This has got to be a bug surely?
  8. I think this might be my first ever tactics upload and I've been a member on here for a good few years. As the title suggests this is a rock solid 4-4-2 for any level of football but I'm using it in the 10th level of English football. Your board probably won't give you any awards for entertainment but in terms of grinding out results they won't have much to complain about. Link below Rock Solid LLM 4-4-2.fmf The main principle behind this tactic was simplicity. My players are dreadful. My PF(a) has finishing of 4. Yes, 4. He's currently the division's top scorer with 18 goals from 18 games. The fullbacks stay back to protect the flanks. The RM is a winger with terrible dribbling so I've got him staying deep and tucking in but still utilising his decent crossing. He links quite nicely with the BBM who links the play and arrives late into the box. All of my BWM's have tackling of under 5 so when I tell you that we have the best defence in the league by far that tells you that this tactic is pretty decent. We win the ball and it usually goes straight over the top for the DF(d) to act as a pivot or it goes long and the PF(a) goes one on one with the keeper. His 25% conversion rate would be a disaster if we didn't create so many chances. Our other main approach is to get it out to the left wing where he gets forward quickly and combines with the two strikers. None of my midfield have more than 1 goal so this tactic is heavily weighted towards the strikers getting the goals. As often happens adjustments are needed. If you find yourself not breaking through (first of all, remain patient) I tend to go one of two ways. If we're getting into dangerous areas but getting outnumbered then I change my fullbacks to Support. If we're not able to get out of our half or the ball just keeps coming back then I move from Standard mentality to Positive mentality. If you're playing against a narrow side then also Go Wider (only if you're not having any luck), I also use this TI if the opposition has a man sent off. I start all games on Standard. I've found that that works well against all opponents. You can drop back to Cautious mentality if you're ahead and approaching half time or trying to see out a result at the end of a game, I do. the only PI's I'm using are Cross from Deep, Cross More and Sit Narrower for the Right midfielder. I'm not using OI's. You can if you want to but be careful, don't overdo it. If the opposition have a playmaker that's causing me problems then occasionally I'll press him harder but I prefer not to do that. In terms of what to look for in your players, I'll say it again, my squad is dreadful. That said, you want centre backs that are strong and can jump. Positioning is a must for all of your defenders. Your fullbacks need to be defenders first. If they have a little acceleration then all the better. In midfield you want acceleration, pace and dribbling for your left winger. Passing, Vision and crossing for the RM would be preferable. He doesn't need to be quick or good at dribbling. Your box to box works best if he can pick a pass and hit a long shot but failing that just someone who has stamina, teamwork and workrate. Your BWM would work best with good positioning and tackling but mine don't (unfortunately) so just play your most aggressive midfielder here. for your DF(d) you want your strongest striker here and preferably someone that has first touch. Your PF(a) just needs pace and acceleration. Dribbling, Finishing, Composure.etc are a bonus. As I've said my PF(a) couldn't finish his dinner let alone a 1 v 1. Something to bare in mind when looking over these results (League only) is that we were predicted to finish 17th or there abouts. Try it and let me know what you think.
  9. When i try to use the calculator I select a position from the drop down menu but when I try to select a role and duty the drop down list just has #REF! Any suggestions.
  10. You're right, although the guide does point out to the reader that every area of the pitch needs to have a balance of penetration, solidity and support, its not included in the method.
  11. I think it'd maybe be a bit more understandable if it was explained in simple steps, like for example... Step 1: Assess your squad to decide which styles your players are suited to by using the list of suggested attributes. (in your version you choose a style and then assess your squad, which seems the wrong way round to me). Step 2: Set your Mentality to accomplish your Core style. Step 3: Set your pressing style to accomplish your Defensive style. Step 4: Set your passing Directness to accomplish your Attacking style. Step 5: Choose the formation that suits your Style of Play. Step 6: This is where I get a bit lost. The flow charts are a little hard to follow (maybe not for everyone but certainly for me as I have mild dyslexia). Maybe a text based list. I tend to use Windows Notepad and Windows Calculator to keep things simple when I'm assessing my squad. So maybe think about how you get from Step 5 to Step 6 and beyond. When I was going through your flow charts I wasn't sure what connection it had to the steps before. What target scores should I be aiming for? Do the target scores change if you change style? It wasn't very clear. So I think that's something that needs to be clearer. Again, not everyone will have the problems understanding that I have but I definitely found it a little hard to follow. Still, really appreciate the work you've put in. I think we're all looking for that holy grail that is a structure, a system that we can use in all tactical scenarios. Just plug your situation into the tactics machine and let it print out the perfect strategy. I'm doubtful that such a thing exists but I'm definitely intrigued.
  12. That's great, thanks. Its a very unintuitive approach to tactics building, for me at least, but I'll give it a go. I'm always happy to try different approaches to the game.
  13. I am absolutely bamboozled. How do you use the calculator? When you give your explanation Imagine you're talking to a small child. I can't use these new fangled spreadsheet things.
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