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Need help with a 433
bosque replied to HanziZoloman's topic in Tactics, Training & Strategies Discussion
No, I don't play with an underdog team. I'm not that good haha. Depending on the back four players, sometimes a L(d) if the player is a good BPD, others an IWB(d) if the player can play inside without losing the ball with bad first touches. And others I use a Carrilero (because he doesn't rotate upwards) on the same side of a WB(s) and IF, emulating Liverpool's righ hand side. Regarding the Wingers question, I don't use to change too much based on opposition because when I do it almost always back fire But I think that If you keep your Wingbacks on defend duty, you are facilitating the Wingers job because they don't need to track back. You could leave one WB(d) to face their most dangerous Winger and be more positive with the other one, so you have 1+ body when in-possession and the opposition Winger has to track back. If he doesn't you have a free player. -
Need help with a 433
bosque replied to HanziZoloman's topic in Tactics, Training & Strategies Discussion
I'm playing a similar 433 and I noticed this problems with the DM. This comes from experience haha 😅 -
Need help with a 433
bosque replied to HanziZoloman's topic in Tactics, Training & Strategies Discussion
I'm not Cloud nor Crusader but it is possible that your DM will be isolated down the middle during defensive transitions because both 8s will go to the AM strata and the WBs will stay wide. And he may have very long passing lines when in-possesion and passes may be easier to intercept. But check it during games. If that happens you may consider having someone with him during the in-possession phase. A Libero or an Inverted Wingback. BUT, if the DM is very good and complete, he will have plenty of space to work his magic. -
Thanks! I will try this. I'm using a DM(d) now and I felt I was wasting this player because (apart from having good defensive attributes) he is good at passing, off the ball and he even has decent dribbling. Your description sounds like what I'm looking for.
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bosque started following [FM24] MorrisseyMuse's Attention To Detail Data Update
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Sorry for the late quote, I just read the thread. I'm curious on the thinking behind the DM(s) with hold position and not just DM(d),
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So, you want your last line of defence with only 1 player?
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@TheMartello It looks like this: But depending on the opposition, sometimes I end up using this: I was using the 4231 before this, but I changed to the 433 because I found we were too slow and predictable during build-up. My hypothesis was that it is because we lacked 1 player during build-up (the AM). - I'm happy with the IF + IW on the flanks because I like the "minimum width" concept (they are wide because of the positional play feature). But I may try the "wrong-footed" wingers in the future. - I was using an AF before; I started using the DLFa just for experimental purposes And I like it. He does a good mix of dropping back for build-up and runs in behind. I really like it when he drops and both IF and APa (and sometimes IWs) attack the space. - I did not find trouble with the back 3 shape using the IWBs. Can't understand why it was odd for you.