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God yes this! Lol. I’m sick of the sight of Spurs vs Arsenal!

Interesting. Glad this has worked for you. For me, since 23.2, I have had a flickering match engine, behind inbetween highlight panels (which I have remedied by adjusting the inbetween highlight panels to cover the whole screen - effectively hiding the ME) and then stutter and lag during highlights (that I “think” I have remedied by “blacking out” the ad boards). Needs more testing, especially in a network game, but believe my issues are now sorted, albeit through some skin work and a less than ideal workaround. I feel the command prompt fix will be suitable for a lot of people, but I had lag and stuttering on the ME from beta, so reverting doesn’t work for me. The flashing ME behind inbetween highlight panels only started with 23.2. I believe THAT could be skin related, but as I play with a highly customised personal skin, I was able to find a workaround. Would still like to know WHY I now get a flashing ME pitch inbetween highlights, but at least I don’t see it anymore.

So you were getting stuttering in between highlights, not during highlights? When you say stuttering do you mean flashing ME (the actual pitch) behind the inbetween highlights panels? Or did your game actually freeze for some time? I’m interested because I don’t have any of the panels you listed on my inbetween highlights panels, and find it very interesting that this has worked for you.

Pretty much, no. You generally need to reload to see changes. It’s really not that big a deal. What i’d recommended though, if dealing with anything ungraphic related whilst skinning, is to temporarily move your graphics folder (SI/fm23/graphics) out of the fm23 folder, if, like me, it is HUGE in size. Makes a big difference to reload times.

I believe it is a colour setting, in the settings file of a skin, called “human controlled”.

Thanks

Would you know how to make the match caption panel small stay on screen for a bit longer? Have messed around with the animation class settings but they just seem to control the movement and I can’t see what controls the time the panel is static.

This workaround doesn’t work for me. For information, I have found the advertising boards, when in video blinky blink mode, makes my 2d ME stutter and lag. I have an Nvidia card, which I know has been troublesome. The stutter was there in beta, 23.1 and now 23.2. I have tried the command prompt, all sorts of settings on my graphics card, but what sorts it out, is, ahem, blanking out the ad boards. Hope this is useful. SI.

Doesn’t work for everyone.

Imagination was what got me into FM (CM) 20+ years ago. Commentary only was all that was needed. In many ways (lots actually) it is still better than dots and stick men. At least you can’t see perceived ME flaws 😉 Fully agree that interactions need a rethink. Less is more. Generic gives room for imagination.

During in between hightlights, half time panels and match tactic Screen the 2d pitch (just the green pitch) flickers continually after 23.2. When a highlight is showing it is fine. Someone suggested adding a command line on start up (via steam) but that didn’t fix the flickering 2d pitch for me. Nor did lowering my refresh rate. As I play with my own skin I have altered multiple panels to cover the pitch in between highlights and on the match tactics screen. It’s basically a bodge to “hide” the flickering. But does anyone know “why” this is now a thing with 23.2? I haven’t tested other skins but it has been mentioned changing skins helped. If that is the case I presume something in my panels/match panels could be a culprit. Or there is something I can add to the code somewhere that negates the issue. I have “solved” the issue, by hiding the pitch with a background “picture” widget, and stretching the match score board panel etc but it’s still there in the background, flickering away, and I am curious to know why and if there is anything I could do, code wise. I am using Michael’s match screen mod from fm21 as a base for my inbetween highlights panels, altered a fair bit by me, if that makes a difference, although I hear this is affecting a fair few people, who’ll have their own set ups.

Thanks for the info. I use my own custom skin so will have to delve into fixing it if that’s the issue. Will try other options first.

Is anyone else getting a flashing 2d ME behind the inbetween hightlights panels? Only happens whilst waiting for highlights - constant flashing of the pitch. Any suggestions?

@Conrad Kaine I agree with your point about a ME update being optional. Unfortunately I just do not think it would be possible, otherwise I am sure we would have that option. Nearly every year the ME I enjoy the most is the first. As this thread fills with rage the ME gets updated and becomes, generally, a more sterile version of itself. Now of course the ME has to evolve, needs to evolve and wants to evolve. I just wish it could be in a way that retains the FUN of the, often, first version each year. Having said that I think SI have done a fabulous job so far with the evolution of this years ME. Don’t touch it no more! Be brave! 😁

Interesting. I’m not saying this doesn’t happen but personally my wingers have gone up a level with crossing and cut backs. Scoring some lovely goals from wing play. Also echoing the sentiment that headers seem a bit more powerful now too, which is not a bad thing. I’m currently playing a 442. I’m missing the chaos a little but overall I feel the ME seems more stable, if that’s a thing.

Try looking for a file that is “person” or “non_player”, presuming you sorted the previous panel by editing a panel in /widgets. I’m unsure how you actually sorted the club playing time panel tbh …

Looking at the panel you posted, as it is a table, I can see the difficulty. My hunch is still the same, that the table is puling the player info from a widget panel. In panels/widgets look for all the files that start with "player picture name ...". Personally I would go through all these panels and find the one that best matches what i see on screen and then I would delete the widget class="picture" widget in that panel. I would keep moving through the panels until i see a change. Of course, I could be completely wrong. But this is where I would start. The table is not clear where it draws the info for the player, but to me, when looking at the panels i have suggested, the info matches up for the player info. Remove the widget class="picture" from these files and see what happens

If you have already found the inbox panel(s) they should direct you to which widget is being used. If you can’t find the inbox panel, as you want to remove ALL faces anyway, then editing the “with” widget panels “should” pick up the faces on the inbox panels. I say “should”, because without seeing the panel myself I am purely guessing the faces here are controlled by a widget.

I’m guessing here, without seeing the panel, but they look like a person button widget with portrait. In widgets there are a fair few panels called something like player info with portrait, player button with portrait, person button with portrait etc. (from memory - might be “with picture”. They definitely have “with” in the title 😊 As you are wanting to remove all faces I would def look in the widgets folders for all of these examples (they all have “with portrait” or “with picture”) (Not on PC atm so apologies for not having correct names)

All this “broken” talk is absolute nonsense. The game works. I play matches. I manage my squad. I enjoy it. There are a ton of things I wish were different. But I am playing it. Because it’s not broken. The frenzy for a patch is hilarious.

You’re already on the plane dude.

I am also interested in this. The constant flashing, especially on 2d is really annoying. I haven’t delved too deep into this but I imagine there is some json editing involved.

Maguire has arguably been England’s best player so far this World Cup. Just saying.

In my current 442 tactic my RM winger on attack crosses often. Without doubling back. He’s right footed. My right footed IW on support, playing LM crosses often, but he mostly doubles back. Which makes perfect sense. My right footed RB on FB support and left footed LB on FB support cross enough but both mostly double back when crossing. Which, when on an overlap, is slightly frustrating as that extra time taken to double back gives defenders extra time to get back into a better position. Also seems weird, as being on the correct flank for footedness, it doesn’t make much sense to double back. Fairly confident there is a tactical tweak I could make to my FB’s, but not sure what. Will try training “crosses early” to see if that helps.

All of those bullets I have to agree with. Apart from the UI. Yes it’s basic. But thankfully imo. Makes it easier for me to skin it 😁