corinthiano Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 We can make Greenland playable I reckong if we get 20 teams. The Hong Kong league only needs 20 teams in their top two tiers and all the non-league sides do not participate in the cups. You can them just leave those teams as Hong Kong nationality whilst changing the two divisions to Greenland and it will be like they were never there A more lengthly way to research but mre effective is to get a list of all cities/towns in a country/region and then search clubs in the editor through that. That is how I managed to find 50 clubs for both the Basque counry and Catalonia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lower Leagues Rule Posted January 7, 2009 Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 Very good idea, it may take more time, but it definitely works to find those small obscure clubs I have been a bit lax this week, because I am back at work and have less free time I have set down my evenings mostly to play FM and my mornings to try and set-up an auto editor to run while I am at work moving players, on the weekend I will hit it hard and try to get all the nations working with then I will only need to sort out the cities and the players after that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corinthiano Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Ok, I have researched a few things now and got the following results: Sapmi (Lapland): There are over 100 teams, so enough for a league, there is even a team called Santa Claus, pure class. I will send the full list to you after I have cleared some questions. Northern Cyprus: Not enough teams and it is difficultto reearch as the boundaries are not so clear Gibraltar: No teams in FM Vatican City: No temas in FM Monaco: Only one team in FM Greenland: No teams in FM So unfortunately a lot of the countries will be impossible to do unless we create teams. Another suggestion I would make would be to do 4 island leagues: Portugal: Azores and Madeira Spain: Balearic and Canary Islands Italy: Sardinia and Sicily France: Corsica and ... not sure tere are any others... Just a suggestion, if you think it is a good idea I will research it. Another possibility would be to add former colonies into the French, Spanish and Portuguese leagues, so you have it all under one league system. You can make Europe the centre of the old world Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimbom89 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I can get the info about the Northen Cyprus teams. Do you need the player lists? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimbom89 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Teams in the KKTC First division. Bostancı Bağcıl Cihangir Çetinkaya Türk Gençlerbirliği Gönyeli Hamitköy Küçük Kaymaklı Türk Lapta Mağusa Türk Gücü Ozanköy Tatlısu Halk Ocağı Türk Ocağı Limasol Yeni Boğaziçi Yenicami Ağdelen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corinthiano Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Thanks cimbom, I need to check if these teams are in FM, ideally we need more teams though, around the 30-50 mark would be good. I managed to find a list of all the cities in Northern Cyprus and will have a look in a bit, but if you want to look around as well it would be great. Here a list of the top 20 teams ranked through reputation as a taster : Tromsø Bodø/Glimt RoPS TP-47 PS Kemi Alta Tromsdalen Umeå FC Steinkjer Levanger Skarp Santa Claus Senja Harstad Hammerfest Skarphedin Mjølner Ersboda Porsanger FC Lynx They are mainly Norwegian with a few Swedish and Finnish teams in there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corinthiano Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I cant get the info about the Northen Cyprus teams. Do you need the player lists? Oops missed that, and I suppose the list is for Kurdistan teams not North Cyprus, sorry! The biggest city in North Cyprus (Lefkosia) does not show up in the FM Editor so I don't know whether tere will be any teams there... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimbom89 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Oops missed that, and I suppose the list is for Kurdistan teams not North Cyprus, sorry!The biggest city in North Cyprus (Lefkosia) does not show up in the FM Editor so I don't know whether tere will be any teams there... O sorry it was supposed to say I can get the info If its not in the FM database there is no point making the teams then. That list is the Northern Cyprus teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corinthiano Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 It is shame, but it would be very difficult to create so many teams, we need to concentrate on what is thre! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRDH Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Portugal: Azores and Madeira Spain: Balearic and Canary Islands Italy: Sardinia and Sicily France: Corsica and ... not sure tere are any others... Just a suggestion, if you think it is a good idea I will research it. Another possibility would be to add former colonies into the French, Spanish and Portuguese leagues, so you have it all under one league system. You can make Europe the centre of the old world With France you could add in teams from all of the little islands, they used to have, Guadeloupe etc. As for the colonial teams, I love the idea! Could put all of the canadian, Indian, america etc teams into the UK leagues as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
max1994 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Corithano cyprus is allready split into northern and southern on fm. And also corsico is part of italy they play in the italian lower leagues Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanco Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Maybe in one of the bigger countries you could do a British Empire one - have Australian teams, some American ones, South Africans, Indians, Hong Kong, Singapore etc??? Seperate from the British one though.. Would be happy to help with that.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corinthiano Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Corithano cyprus is allready split into northern and southern on fm. And also corsico is part of italy they play in the italian lower leagues There is not Northern Cyprus sides in the Editor, only Suther Cyprus one, divided into an A League, B League and Lower League. There is also only Cyprus as a Nation and not a division. I don't know Corsico, but Corsica is a Mediterranena island off France: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corsica Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lower Leagues Rule Posted January 7, 2009 Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 Actually A League with the major teams from the rest of the British Empire could be quite cool As for the rest, except for creating teams I am all for them all I love the Lapland Idea, I sooo want to play a game in that league as Santa Claus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanco Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Can you tell me what the biggest country left is - ie the one with most teams left in it, and how many teams there are? I will volunteer for organising that... There is so going to be a Santa Challenge next Christmas (if we don't have FM 2010 by then) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corinthiano Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Actually A League with the major teams from the rest of the British Empire could be quite cool As for the rest, except for creating teams I am all for them all I love the Lapland Idea, I sooo want to play a game in that league as Santa Claus Nice, there are only 22 sides from the Azores and Madeira, do you think that will be enough to create a league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corinthiano Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Actually, should we do both the island leagues and the Empire thing, or stick with just one of them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanco Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Obviously, not my decision, but my two pennyworth is that both should be done if we can... As for the rest, except for creating teams I am all for them all What the boss said... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corinthiano Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Yeah but both kinda contradict each other, first we make some parts of a country (e.g. Azores and Madeira) independent and then we re-colonize a bunch of countries (e.g. Brazil, Angola, Mozambique) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanco Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I get your point, but I don't think it's meant to be hugely accurate historically... Just a bit of fun.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
max1994 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 There is not Northern Cyprus sides in the Editor, only Suther Cyprus one, divided into an A League, B League and Lower League. There is also only Cyprus as a Nation and not a division.I don't know Corsico, but Corsica is a Mediterranena island off France: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corsica i think i read that cyprus is split in athread in the editors forum i could be mistaken though I thought you meant corsico who are in the italian lower leagues I couldn't find corsica in the database thought Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viperk1 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I would really hate to make more work for you...but shouldn't the Irish league also be included in the United Kingdom league? Unless this database is for a time after Ireland declared independence? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corinthiano Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 There are some big cities in the island corsica like Ajaccio and Bastia, which had teams in the Lige 1 beofre Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanco Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I am very happy to do the British Empire bit, if saomeone tells me what I need to do, how many teams I need to find etc Will base it on this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_the_British_Empire So, if someone tells me how many teams I can do for the largest remaining league, and what information is required, then I will do it.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
max1994 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Des are you going to do austria hungary as i will be happy to do it EDIT after doing a bit of reashearch It would screw up checkoslovakia if you do austria hungary. There a 11 north korean teams in the database so there arent enough teams to make a north korea league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnefc22 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Okay, I will be back tomorrow and I promise to do a couple more teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lower Leagues Rule Posted January 8, 2009 Author Share Posted January 8, 2009 Can you tell me what the biggest country left is - ie the one with most teams left in it, and how many teams there are?I will volunteer for organising that... There is so going to be a Santa Challenge next Christmas (if we don't have FM 2010 by then) I think that would be what is going to be our British Empire League. Nice, there are only 22 sides from the Azores and Madeira, do you think that will be enough to create a league? I think its just a little too small, but maybe you could add it to some other small nations to make a combined league Actually, should we do both the island leagues and the Empire thing, or stick with just one of them? I think we can manage both, I have already done some splits and some joins so if you build it I will come Obviously, not my decision, but my two pennyworth is that both should be done if we can...What the boss said... Me Boss? Haha I would really hate to make more work for you...but shouldn't the Irish league also be included in the United Kingdom league?Unless this database is for a time after Ireland declared independence? Umm it is just based on a mix of places and some leagues I would like to run, if we go current day for the UK, Ireland is not included There are some big cities in the island corsica like Ajaccio and Bastia, which had teams in the Lige 1 beofre I am sure there are some Corsica clubs lol I am very happy to do the British Empire bit, if saomeone tells me what I need to do, how many teams I need to find etcWill base it on this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_the_British_Empire So, if someone tells me how many teams I can do for the largest remaining league, and what information is required, then I will do it.. Best is to just start taking countries and sorting them by reputation any number from about 100 up to 643 can be done the larger the number obviously the larger the league I use Des are you going to do austria hungary as i will be happy to do it EDIT after doing a bit of reashearch It would screw up checkoslovakia if you do austria hungary. There a 11 north korean teams in the database so there arent enough teams to make a north korea league. Yeah I realised that afterwards that some of Yugoslavia was part of it. As for North Korea thats a bit disappointing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanco Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Best is to just start taking countries and sorting them by reputation any number from about 100 up to 643 can be done the larger the number obviously the larger the league I use Will start tonight / tommorrow... What country is the league with 643 clubs? (so that I can look at how the divisions split...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
max1994 Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 im guesing england Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lower Leagues Rule Posted January 8, 2009 Author Share Posted January 8, 2009 Italy is the only empty one left with 643 haha, other than that I think France has 500, the other big ones are used. Portugal has 600 or so too England for UK Spain for USSR Germany for W. Germany Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanco Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I will steal Italy for the Empire then... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lower Leagues Rule Posted January 8, 2009 Author Share Posted January 8, 2009 So ok Leagues that are Definitely Full Belarus = Basque Slovenia = East Germany England = UK Spain = USSR Germany = West Germany Italy = British Empire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corinthiano Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I would take France for the French Empire and Portugal for the Portuguese Emire then Then you can just replace some of the Portuguese/French sides with empire sides. Just have to think of a big league for the Spanish Empire... Maybe Brazil if they had 27 colonies. Then each colonie can have its own championship running. As for the islands league, it will be difficult as there are not many teams, but I will look further into it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lower Leagues Rule Posted January 8, 2009 Author Share Posted January 8, 2009 Maybe if we joined all the island nations together as a consortium...Carribien, Pacific, Mediterranian North Sea etc, must be able to get a league then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corinthiano Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 There is actually an Island Games Association so we can use that for some more teams But I would leave it at European Islands maybe as a lot of the islands in the Carribean, Pacific and so forth come under Empire leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corinthiano Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I will steal Italy for the Empire then... This page on wikipedia is really good to check former colonies: Wiki Page Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanco Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 This page on wikipedia is really good to check former colonies: Wiki Page Cheers... Also, can we change the reputations of clubs a bit ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanco Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Right then, got about 450 clubs into my spreadsheet and that's me for tonight... Will carry on tommorrow and on the weekend and should be able to get them all in leagues as well by then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magyar Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 2 possibilities 2 add more work possiblities ( dont wanna add too much or you guys will never get this finished ) what about a british/channel islands league , isle of man , jersey , isle of wight , guernsey , could maybe even include gibralter to bump the numbers up if needed as theres still a british island but not a fifa team . other possibility was a central america or carribean league , plenty of countries there to find clubs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lower Leagues Rule Posted January 9, 2009 Author Share Posted January 9, 2009 Just one thing Blanco, I don't want to edit the Reputations at all, and from running my tests it is best to sort them by Reputation alone and then sort them into leagues going down the order from there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lower Leagues Rule Posted January 9, 2009 Author Share Posted January 9, 2009 Well another update from my end...Game is now on holiday with Basque, East & West Germany and seems to be running fine... I will not be changing the nationalities of players til after I have all the leagues running will just make it easier really. As for the names of the leagues that will be the last thing, I will also try to remember to change the names of all the awards, the nations of the cities for each nation and ummm, actually maybe that is everything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lower Leagues Rule Posted January 9, 2009 Author Share Posted January 9, 2009 Haha ok the USSR is huge...I am currently in the process of moving 900 odd USSR Teams into Spain, and the task is mammoth, so far I have moved the top 122 into the playable divisions, now starting to fill the 360 team 3rd Division...And then there is the regional leagues after that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lower Leagues Rule Posted January 9, 2009 Author Share Posted January 9, 2009 So halfway through that third division...181 teams into 9 groups. Groups 10-18 to go (I believe it is 180 more clubs) Group 9 is bizarre in having 21 teams haha. At this level there appears to be a good mix of teams from all the USSR nations, seen as for my Challenge these will be the teams promoted this is very good in my opinion. Basically after holidaying for a year there is a random selection of 500 odd teams that could be playable. The original 122 + 361 or so teams that could gain promotion, though top of the feeder leagues i 2500rep and bottom is 500, so it is most likely the higher rep teams will be coming up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corinthiano Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Good news LLR! I will be doing some Portuguese, Spanish and French Empire ones tonight. Just have to find a big league for the Spanish Empire as it will include quite a lot of teams from South America. Do you know whatan avilable big league is? I am thinking maybe move Spain to Portugal and then Portugal to a smaller nation as it only includes sides from a few nations (Portugal, Brazil, Macau, East Timor, Angola, Guinea-Bissau, Sao Tome & Principe and Mozambique). And magyar, those are nice suggestions, but there are no clubs in British Isles, I already checked, the Isle of Man, Jersey, Gibraltar and the Isle f Wight and nothing Also, Carribean countries will all fall under the Empire leagues, but if most people wish to see this separately we could do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spleen! Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Great work LLR, this is a great idea. Going back to the suggestion of Greenland, I did a bit of research into football there to make a database for FM08. I can't remember how many teams I found, and some of the teams were literally just names, but I could try and dig it out if you want Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corinthiano Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Did you find them in the editor? I tried to find them there but had no luck... Would be awesome if we found teams for Greenland! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spleen! Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 None in the editor, I think there's only 1 or 2 places in as well. I've looked on the Greenland FA, Wikipedia, some other sites, and compiled a list of all of them. Some may not exist anymore, but I think I even managed to get some competition history! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corinthiano Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Oh, I think LLR said no creating teams or editing them, but I would wait on confirmation from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spleen! Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Fair enough, it's a huge task already as it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lower Leagues Rule Posted January 9, 2009 Author Share Posted January 9, 2009 Yeah the creating teams just adds too much work to the huge task I already have But right now I am going to bed in Frustration at the USSR League, So I moved 900 odd clubs across, but I have an error stopping the League showing up, this generally means that more than one club has the same last League position set, so going through all 900 I have found 4 double-ups so far fixed them, but still not coming up. So when I wake 2moro I will spend a couple of hours trying to find it before I go out. Wish me luck guys, cause it is the little errors like this one that get annoying haha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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