FM24 - PC/Laptop advice thread *** PLEASE READ OPENING POST BEFORE POSTING ***

[captainconzo]

15 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

I'd go for the other one.

For the same money you're getting a better CPU and a dedicated graphics card.

cheers bud thanks again 

[Colorado]

2 hours ago, kevhamster said:

If you can stretch to £750, this is a good shout: https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8971894?clickPR=plp:7:30

If you can't afford that, I'll have to have another look as pretty much all the ones worth considering are out of stock.

Yeah I'd rather not Lenovo, we use them in workand they're not reliable at all.

Would the all-in-one run extensive FM databases ok, do you think or not? I think I'm leaning towards an all-in-one, but if not viable then will get desktop.

[kevhamster]

11 minutes ago, Colorado said:

Yeah I'd rather not Lenovo, we use them in workand they're not reliable at all.

Would the all-in-one run extensive FM databases ok, do you think or not? I think I'm leaning towards an all-in-one, but if not viable then will get desktop.

The CPU is pretty good in fairness and should perform quite well.

We don't have any FM specific benchmarks on that specific CPU as far as I know, but it scores quite well on the all round benchmarking sites.

[Damonlufc]

But my laptop won't run them. It's old and full of junk. I'm thinking of getting a new laptop to play as PC gaming is out if my price and I'll only play FM anyway. Just wondering how much I would need to spend on a decent laptop that keeps the game at a decent pace? (fm05-09) probably. If anybody could link me any decent laptops please do 

[kevhamster]

1 hour ago, Damonlufc said:

But my laptop won't run them. It's old and full of junk. I'm thinking of getting a new laptop to play as PC gaming is out if my price and I'll only play FM anyway. Just wondering how much I would need to spend on a decent laptop that keeps the game at a decent pace? (fm05-09) probably. If anybody could link me any decent laptops please do 

I think there's something missing at the start of your message. 

Some of the older FM's won't run on modern computers as they include DRM which doesn't agree with modern versions of Windows.  I know for FM06 for example, you can only get it to run using methods which probably aren't allowed to be discussed on the forum. 

In terms of a laptop to run FM, it really depends on how much you can afford to spend and what exactly you're looking to do with the computer aside from FM. 

[Smurf]

20 hours ago, Damonlufc said:

But my laptop won't run them. It's old and full of junk. I'm thinking of getting a new laptop to play as PC gaming is out if my price and I'll only play FM anyway. Just wondering how much I would need to spend on a decent laptop that keeps the game at a decent pace? (fm05-09) probably. If anybody could link me any decent laptops please do 

Yeh, you might run into compatibility issues but you can run as in compatibility mode

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/make-older-apps-or-programs-compatible-with-windows-10-783d6dd7-b439-bdb0-0490-54eea0f45938

Depends what you mean by 'how much would I need to spend' - that depends on you and your budget £500 is a lot to some people and very little to others. £1000 could be cheap for you and very expensive for someone else.

 

Bottom of the barrell pick that would work

https://www.box.co.uk/X413JA-EB478T-ASUS-VivoBook-14-Intel-Core-i5-8GB-RAM-5_3614569.html

Next up on the recommended list

https://www.box.co.uk/1L6E9EAABU-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-Intel-Core-i5-8GB-RAM_2958256.html

 

But if you want to spend more than £650... then let us know.

 

 

[peteransnr]

Hi.

I'm looking to get a load of new PCs at work. I was going to go for a Mac but it needs to be managed by the ICT team at work and they can't deal with Macs. I have no choice.

What I need really are 3 things: speed, reliability and longevity. 

What I need it for: To run FM21 like a boss obviously  But also to run the Adobe Suite: PhotoShop, Premier etc. It needs to be able to handle film editing. They will be desktop PCs, not laptops.

What I need advice on: To be be blunt, I want to make sure the people who are buying the kit aren't pulling the wool over my eyes. What's the spec I need to do the above? They've tried to mug me off before with 'Macs don't run the Adobe Suite' which was guff. 

Any help appreciated guys!

[Carninho]

2 hours ago, peteransnr said:

Hi.

I'm looking to get a load of new PCs at work. I was going to go for a Mac but it needs to be managed by the ICT team at work and they can't deal with Macs. I have no choice.

What I need really are 3 things: speed, reliability and longevity. 

What I need it for: To run FM21 like a boss obviously  But also to run the Adobe Suite: PhotoShop, Premier etc. It needs to be able to handle film editing. They will be desktop PCs, not laptops.

What I need advice on: To be be blunt, I want to make sure the people who are buying the kit aren't pulling the wool over my eyes. What's the spec I need to do the above? They've tried to mug me off before with 'Macs don't run the Adobe Suite' which was guff. 

Any help appreciated guys!

I buy in Lenovo v530s - the current models are here https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/desktops-and-all-in-ones/lenovo/lenovo-v-series-tower-desktops/c/v-series-towers

 

which is why i came on here. I've taken one home and it needs a SFF graphics card just for FM use.

I dont want to spend more than £50 on one, just for FM. Does any body have a recommendation? 

[kevhamster]

20 minutes ago, Carninho said:

I buy in Lenovo v530s - the current models are here https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/desktops-and-all-in-ones/lenovo/lenovo-v-series-tower-desktops/c/v-series-towers

 

which is why i came on here. I've taken one home and it needs a SFF graphics card just for FM use.

I dont want to spend more than £50 on one, just for FM. Does any body have a recommendation? 

The only graphics card that you can buy brand new for under £50 is the GT 710.  And, you don't want to buy one of those.  You're probably better off with the CPU's integrated graphics.

[kevhamster]

2 hours ago, peteransnr said:

Hi.

I'm looking to get a load of new PCs at work. I was going to go for a Mac but it needs to be managed by the ICT team at work and they can't deal with Macs. I have no choice.

What I need really are 3 things: speed, reliability and longevity. 

What I need it for: To run FM21 like a boss obviously  But also to run the Adobe Suite: PhotoShop, Premier etc. It needs to be able to handle film editing. They will be desktop PCs, not laptops.

What I need advice on: To be be blunt, I want to make sure the people who are buying the kit aren't pulling the wool over my eyes. What's the spec I need to do the above? They've tried to mug me off before with 'Macs don't run the Adobe Suite' which was guff. 

Any help appreciated guys!

I'm not an expert on video editing, but based on what I've read up you want:

A powerful multi-core CPU

16-32GB RAM

Large SSD storage

A reasonable graphics card (although the things I've read prioritise this lower than the RAM and CPU).

 

So, it really depends what you're looking to spend.

Something like this should do the job, but it depends on whether you want to spend this much: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z490-pc/YSes8P6jXG/

Honestly, to be on the safe side you are probably better off asking on more specialist forums when it comes to video editing requirements - but, generally speaking if a PC can handle video editing well it's probably going to handle FM like a dream anyway.  VIdeo editing is a pretty demanding task.

[Carninho]

7 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

The only graphics card that you can buy brand new for under £50 is the GT 710.  And, you don't want to buy one of those.  You're probably better off with the CPU's integrated graphics.

yeah thats the only one i could find. might need to up the budget then 

[kevhamster]

Just now, Carninho said:

yeah thats the only one i could find. might need to up the budget then 

Graphics cards are very expensive at the moment, if you can even find stock of what you're looking for.

[Carninho]

7 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

Graphics cards are very expensive at the moment, if you can even find stock of what you're looking for.

its worse as i need a low profile one. the PC only has as 630 currently.

(I bought dozens of them for work a couple of years ago and they are worth more now 2nd hand)

its basically a 730 or a very budget 1030

[kevhamster]

2 minutes ago, Carninho said:

its worse as i need a low profile one. the PC only has as 630 currently.

(I bought dozens of them for work a couple of years ago and they are worth more now 2nd hand)

its basically a 730 or a very budget 1030

Even a 1050 is around £200 at the moment, which is bonkers.

[Carninho]

2 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

Even a 1050 is around £200 at the moment, which is bonkers.

in feb 2020 i paid £100 for a 4gig 1050 which i'd been using over lockdown at home. i had to take it back into work today as one of the graphic designers needs a pc at home and in the office 

[Smurf]

11 minutes ago, Carninho said:

in feb 2020 i paid £100 for a 4gig 1050 which i'd been using over lockdown at home. i had to take it back into work today as one of the graphic designers needs a pc at home and in the office 

Back to you tomorrow. I work exclusively on Adobe and am an certified professional on their forums.

 

Just watching the euros. I know exactly what you need.

[SlayerX]

On 11/06/2021 at 09:17, kevhamster said:

Absolutely fine.

Decent CPU, and the graphics card is more than capable enough for the 3D matches at full settings.

How about these ones

Link

Link 2

How would it run and how about the price? What do you think would be a decent price for these machines?

At this point my short list has turned into a long list.

Edited June 18, 2021 by SlayerX

[Smurf]

8 hours ago, SlayerX said:

How about these ones

Link

Link 2

How would it run and how about the price? What do you think would be a decent price for these machines?

At this point my short list has turned into a long list.

You can get this which is way better

https://www.box.co.uk/G513QM-HF012T-ASUS-ROG-STRIX-G15-AMD-Ryzen-7-16GB-RAM-_3554161.html

 

[peteransnr]

12 hours ago, kevhamster said:

I'm not an expert on video editing, but based on what I've read up you want:

A powerful multi-core CPU

16-32GB RAM

Large SSD storage

A reasonable graphics card (although the things I've read prioritise this lower than the RAM and CPU).

 

So, it really depends what you're looking to spend.

Something like this should do the job, but it depends on whether you want to spend this much: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z490-pc/YSes8P6jXG/

Honestly, to be on the safe side you are probably better off asking on more specialist forums when it comes to video editing requirements - but, generally speaking if a PC can handle video editing well it's probably going to handle FM like a dream anyway.  VIdeo editing is a pretty demanding task.

THANKS!

[SlayerX]

3 hours ago, Smurf said:

You can get this which is way better

https://www.box.co.uk/G513QM-HF012T-ASUS-ROG-STRIX-G15-AMD-Ryzen-7-16GB-RAM-_3554161.html

 

Thanks for that.

Unfortunately, it's non-negotiable. I know a guy who is from a website that's willing to lower his asking price if I pay under the table, so, it's only those two that I mentioned.

Edited June 18, 2021 by SlayerX

[kevhamster]

1 hour ago, SlayerX said:

Thanks for that.

Unfortunately, it's non-negotiable. I know a guy who is from a website that's willing to lower his asking price if I pay under the table, so, it's only those two that I mentioned.

If you're only considering those, I'd go for this one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-15-en0008na-GeForce-Dedicated-Graphics/dp/B0877LGCS6

[Ian smiggers]

Hi There 

First time user need advice on what would be a decent pc to play fm 21 on also play other games like motorsport manager and euro trucker also like to surf the internet while running fm 21, my budget for a pc is £700-£800 pounds hope you can help.

[Smurf]

21 hours ago, peteransnr said:

Hi.

I'm looking to get a load of new PCs at work. I was going to go for a Mac but it needs to be managed by the ICT team at work and they can't deal with Macs. I have no choice.

What I need really are 3 things: speed, reliability and longevity. 

What I need it for: To run FM21 like a boss obviously  But also to run the Adobe Suite: PhotoShop, Premier etc. It needs to be able to handle film editing. They will be desktop PCs, not laptops.

What I need advice on: To be be blunt, I want to make sure the people who are buying the kit aren't pulling the wool over my eyes. What's the spec I need to do the above? They've tried to mug me off before with 'Macs don't run the Adobe Suite' which was guff. 

Any help appreciated guys!

 

18 hours ago, kevhamster said:

I'm not an expert on video editing, but based on what I've read up you want:

A powerful multi-core CPU

16-32GB RAM

Large SSD storage

A reasonable graphics card (although the things I've read prioritise this lower than the RAM and CPU).

 

So, it really depends what you're looking to spend.

Something like this should do the job, but it depends on whether you want to spend this much: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z490-pc/YSes8P6jXG/

Honestly, to be on the safe side you are probably better off asking on more specialist forums when it comes to video editing requirements - but, generally speaking if a PC can handle video editing well it's probably going to handle FM like a dream anyway.  VIdeo editing is a pretty demanding task.

Close

Definitely 32gb RAM if not 64gb depending on what video editing is required.

Fast internal SSD for app installation  and also a separate internal drive for scratch disks.

There's a list of compatible cards here

https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/system-requirements.html

And a list to compare to

https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/directCompute.html

[kevhamster]

33 minutes ago, Ian smiggers said:

Hi There 

First time user need advice on what would be a decent pc to play fm 21 on also play other games like motorsport manager and euro trucker also like to surf the internet while running fm 21, my budget for a pc is £700-£800 pounds hope you can help.

Are you looking for a desktop or laptop?

Fine choice of games by the way, I also love Motorsport Manager and ETS2!

Edited June 18, 2021 by kevhamster

[Ian smiggers]

I am looking for a desktop that can play fm in 3d

[kevhamster]

38 minutes ago, Ian smiggers said:

I am looking for a desktop that can play fm in 3d

https://ao.com/product/3xs108840-3xs-desktop-black-77143-253.aspx this will do the job.

 

Or, if you can stretch another £30: https://ao.com/product/3xs108841-3xs-desktop-black-77144-253.aspx - newer generation of the CPU and slightly upgraded graphics card.  Worth the extra £30 if you can afford it - if not, the other one is still very good.

Edited June 18, 2021 by kevhamster

[SlayerX]

2 hours ago, kevhamster said:

If you're only considering those, I'd go for this one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-15-en0008na-GeForce-Dedicated-Graphics/dp/B0877LGCS6

How much do you think would be a fair price? Same goes for the Dell.

[kevhamster]

1 hour ago, SlayerX said:

How much do you think would be a fair price? Same goes for the Dell.

I would expect it to be in the £1,000 to £1,100 range.

I honestly think the Dell is vastly overpriced and wouldn't even consider it.

[Ian smiggers]

Cheers for the help and unbiased opinion think I will go for the dearer option. once again thanks for the information.

[SlayerX]

9 hours ago, kevhamster said:

I would expect it to be in the £1,000 to £1,100 range.

I honestly think the Dell is vastly overpriced and wouldn't even consider it.

Cool.

Yeah. Agreed. And off topic, I'm not even going to tell you about my most recent experience with Dell. Suffice to say, if you have a Dell, NEVER send it to them to be repaired. 

Mine came back in a worse state than it was when I sent it. Water damaged and dead. They were even nice enough to send me an invoice for the damage they caused.

Anyway. I digress.

Thanks again.

 

[Smurf]

4 hours ago, SlayerX said:

Cool.

Yeah. Agreed. And off topic, I'm not even going to tell you about my most recent experience with Dell. Suffice to say, if you have a Dell, NEVER send it to them to be repaired. 

Mine came back in a worse state than it was when I sent it. Water damaged and dead. They were even nice enough to send me an invoice for the damage they caused.

Anyway. I digress.

Thanks again.

 

Odd.

 

Everyone has different experiences. My last 2 laptops and a desktop were Dell and found them excellent value and quality.

 

[SlayerX]

6 hours ago, Smurf said:

Odd.

 

Everyone has different experiences. My last 2 laptops and a desktop were Dell and found them excellent value and quality.

 

It was a nightmare. You couldn't make it up.

Oh. Dell computers are excellent, no doubt, (my only issue was nothing really, just dead pixels. In retrospect, I should've just endured) but my advice is to get it fixed on site.

[SlayerX]

On 18/06/2021 at 12:59, kevhamster said:

If you're only considering those, I'd go for this one: https://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-15-en0008na-GeForce-Dedicated-Graphics/dp/B0877LGCS6

Just out of interest, how much do you think a reasonable price for the Dell would be?

Would it be good for FM2020?

I would play it in 3D (no crowds) and with as many leagues as possible. 

[kevhamster]

2 hours ago, SlayerX said:

Just out of interest, how much do you think a reasonable price for the Dell would be?

Would it be good for FM2020?

I would play it in 3D (no crowds) and with as many leagues as possible. 

I don't think I'd pay more than £1,000 for it.  The CPU is decent, but not as good as the other one.  And the graphics card ranks slightly above the 1050Ti, so the graphics card is weaker as well.

It's probably priced as high as it is because it's the newest gen i7, and because it's Dell it's likely to have a very good build quality.  But, specs wise it's still behind the other one.

[Smurf]

11 hours ago, SlayerX said:

Just out of interest, how much do you think a reasonable price for the Dell would be?

Would it be good for FM2020?

I would play it in 3D (no crowds) and with as many leagues as possible. 

 

8 hours ago, kevhamster said:

I don't think I'd pay more than £1,000 for it.  The CPU is decent, but not as good as the other one.  And the graphics card ranks slightly above the 1050Ti, so the graphics card is weaker as well.

It's probably priced as high as it is because it's the newest gen i7, and because it's Dell it's likely to have a very good build quality.  But, specs wise it's still behind the other one.

Hands down it's the one on Amazon is better.

The Dell is a bit pricier - but not forgetting that most lapotps built for portability are a bit more expensive - the 1165G7  is an energy efficient processor and relies on cooling technology to sustain the turbo boost. 

As it's a thin and light laptop that's why it's a bit pricier. 

 

[SlayerX]

18 hours ago, Smurf said:

 

Hands down it's the one on Amazon is better.

The Dell is a bit pricier - but not forgetting that most lapotps built for portability are a bit more expensive - the 1165G7  is an energy efficient processor and relies on cooling technology to sustain the turbo boost. 

As it's a thin and light laptop that's why it's a bit pricier. 

 

Cool. Thanks again.

My current laptop is an HP (I hate the tracker pad) so I might as well plump for another HP. Definitely not going back to Dell.

[Smurf]

4 hours ago, SlayerX said:

Cool. Thanks again.

My current laptop is an HP (I hate the tracker pad) so I might as well plump for another HP. Definitely not going back to Dell.

Again, no reason not to. But I understand, bad experiences often sway opinion.

[beverage1982]

Hi folks,

 

This is in the Prime Day deals today. Does it look like something that could be a budget machine to play FM on? I'm not much fo a 3D engine guy (only for goal replays) so instead want something that can just handle the game at speed for a budget.

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-Pavilion-15-ec1001na-Gaming-Laptop/dp/B0877L4KMD/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=HP+Pavilion+Gaming+AMD+Ryzen%E2%84%A2+5+8GB+RAM+256GB+SSD+Nvidia+GTX+1650Ti+15.6%22&qid=1624261849&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&sr=8-6 

Cheers!

[kevhamster]

22 minutes ago, beverage1982 said:

Hi folks,

 

This is in the Prime Day deals today. Does it look like something that could be a budget machine to play FM on? I'm not much fo a 3D engine guy (only for goal replays) so instead want something that can just handle the game at speed for a budget.

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-Pavilion-15-ec1001na-Gaming-Laptop/dp/B0877L4KMD/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=HP+Pavilion+Gaming+AMD+Ryzen™+5+8GB+RAM+256GB+SSD+Nvidia+GTX+1650Ti+15.6"&qid=1624261849&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&sr=8-6

Cheers!

Yep, outstanding deal for that price.  Snap it up.

And, if you do decide you want to play in 3D it'll handle that with ease.

[ManLikeRobbieBrady]

Looking at something like this; https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-envy-x360-13-3-2-in-1-laptop-amd-ryzen-7-512-gb-ssd-black-10206964-pdt.html#

Will be using it mainly for college work (computer science) and football manager in my downtime. 

Want something that will allow me to play fm at a decent speed, will this be good enough? 

Open to other suggestions, budget is around 1000

[kevhamster]

1 hour ago, ManLikeRobbieBrady said:

Looking at something like this; https://www.currys.ie/ieen/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-envy-x360-13-3-2-in-1-laptop-amd-ryzen-7-512-gb-ssd-black-10206964-pdt.html#

Will be using it mainly for college work (computer science) and football manager in my downtime. 

Want something that will allow me to play fm at a decent speed, will this be good enough? 

Open to other suggestions, budget is around 1000

It will be fine, good CPU.

I'm guessing it's largely down to the large touchscreen, but that is rather expensive for the spec in terms of CPU etc.  But if you do need a touchscreen, that'll be absolutely fine for FM.

[JL95]

Hi looking for a laptop that will run fm quick and smoothly with a few leagues loaded like 3-5. Don't tend to use 3D so graphics aren't important to me, Found one with these specs would that be okay

• AMD Ryzen 5 4500U Processor
• 16 GB DDR4 Memory
• 256 GB SSD Storage
• Integrated AMD Radeon Graphics

 

[kevhamster]

39 minutes ago, JL95 said:

Hi looking for a laptop that will run fm quick and smoothly with a few leagues loaded like 3-5. Don't tend to use 3D so graphics aren't important to me, Found one with these specs would that be okay

• AMD Ryzen 5 4500U Processor
• 16 GB DDR4 Memory
• 256 GB SSD Storage
• Integrated AMD Radeon Graphics

 

Specs wise, it'll do the job.

What sort of price have you found it for? 

[JL95]

3 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

Specs wise, it'll do the job.

What sort of price have you found it for? 

It's £480

[kevhamster]

1 hour ago, JL95 said:

It's £480

Reasonable price then. 

 

[Oswaldo]

For the price etc is this a better option than the previous laptop posted on Prime Day?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Razer-Blade-15-2020-Lighting/dp/B08LW575X9/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=gaming+laptops&psr=PDAY&qid=1624348956&s=prime-day&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&sr=1-3

I play about 35 leagues, with most players loaded in the DB. Also play in 3D. The issue I have with my current laptop is that after 3 seasons or so the processing time becomes unbelievably slow, like a minute per continue just to go forward a few hours in game.

Not sure how to check the spec of my current laptop to show you what I currently have and to check if these Prime day deal laptops are much better

[kevhamster]

1 hour ago, Oswaldo said:

For the price etc is this a better option than the previous laptop posted on Prime Day?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Razer-Blade-15-2020-Lighting/dp/B08LW575X9/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=gaming+laptops&psr=PDAY&qid=1624348956&s=prime-day&smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&sr=1-3

I play about 35 leagues, with most players loaded in the DB. Also play in 3D. The issue I have with my current laptop is that after 3 seasons or so the processing time becomes unbelievably slow, like a minute per continue just to go forward a few hours in game.

Not sure how to check the spec of my current laptop to show you what I currently have and to check if these Prime day deal laptops are much better

I'd still go with the other one - the CPUs score quite closely.  Some benchmarks show the i7 as stronger, and some show the Ryzen as the stronger - so there's clearly not much in it.

To share your system specs, use dxdiag as shown here: https://www.windowscentral.com/how-check-your-computer-full-specifications-windows-10

[Oswaldo]

9 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

I'd still go with the other one - the CPUs score quite closely.  Some benchmarks show the i7 as stronger, and some show the Ryzen as the stronger - so there's clearly not much in it.

To share your system specs, use dxdiag as shown here: https://www.windowscentral.com/how-check-your-computer-full-specifications-windows-10

Thanks Kev,

My specs are:

Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8550U CPU @ 1.80GHz   1.99 GHz
Installed RAM    8.00 GB (7.88 GB usable)
Device ID    E1490E90-9439-4A31-92B6-1D82A3DD6D30
Product ID    00325-96343-74058-AAOEM
System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

Is the prime laptop a significant upgrade?
 

[kevhamster]

3 hours ago, Oswaldo said:

Thanks Kev,

My specs are:

Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8550U CPU @ 1.80GHz   1.99 GHz
Installed RAM    8.00 GB (7.88 GB usable)
Device ID    E1490E90-9439-4A31-92B6-1D82A3DD6D30
Product ID    00325-96343-74058-AAOEM
System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

Is the prime laptop a significant upgrade?
 

Yes.

CPU comparison: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8550U-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-4600H/m320742vsm1110331

Plus, the one on Amazon has a dedicated graphics card.

[Oswaldo]

1 minute ago, kevhamster said:

Yes.

CPU comparison: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8550U-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-4600H/m320742vsm1110331

Plus, the one on Amazon has a dedicated graphics card.

Thanks, I'll go for the HP one that was posted yesterday