kingcav Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 It's boring being a chelsea fan because now we have to wait 12 months for any real excitement? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanyi Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Why don't you just **** off now and support West Ham? They're doing well at the moment. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Nice to see maturity reigns supreme on these boards. To clarify, when I started supporting Chelsea around the time of Ruud Gullit (a great team), there were lots of players whom I admired and respected, and I enjoyed the fact that although we never seemed to get anywhere League-wise, we never stopped trying and always had a sense of humour about it (read: Blue Tomorrow, still the greatest of club anthems). Players like Hughes, Petrescu, Luca and GodZola epitomised class, grace and talent, while Wise (despite being a ****) showed passion and belief. Ken Bates may have been a bit of a crooked old man, but he cared about the club and the fans and felt like one of us. Abramovich, for me, changed a lot of that. Maybe it was Zola leaving (I had a feeling he would the moment the takeover was completed) which compounded the feeling of disenchantment, but with the arrival of the likes of that complete @rse Kenyon, cheats like Drogba and other such mercenaries, it feels to me like the club has sold it's soul for success. Mourinho I hugely respect and think he's a brilliant man (depsite his li'l outbursts, which tend to be on the hilarious side anyway), but he's a mathmatician. We might score more goals than before, but everything in between feels so... routine. Frankly, apart from my respect for Super Frank and King John (hence my comment about FL leaving), I find it hard to muster up the sort of excitement which had me running around the room for ages when Zola scored the freekick against Barca in the 3-1 win, the winning goal in Stuttgart, Gus Poyet ramming one home against Real, Vialli coming so close to the title in his first season or my genuinely believing that Chris Sutton could be the crucial factor to our success when I sat at the Bridge for our first ever Champions League match against Skonto Riga. So no, I won't **** off and support West Ham (who, incidentally, Chelsea are doing rather better than, if you'd take note of the League tables). But I find it difficult to support a club or any institution whose moral values are so far from my own, who believe that winning justifies any means (and admittedly, £45 per ticket doesn't help either). I still watch because they're still Chelsea at some level and I still feel a twinge of glee when the blue shirts run out of the tunnel. But where I once spent all night in misery after we crumbled to Mallorca in the Cup Winners' Cup (I think that was it), I now find myself with more admiration for the team who beat us tonight than the team I profess to support. Maybe I'm the only disenchanted Chelsea supporter in the World and we've actually finally found our long awaited Blue tomorrow, where all is happy and joyous. But why then does it all feel so empty? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBrother Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> But why then does it all feel so empty? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Because you f*cking bought the title Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.O.V.I Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by BigBrother: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> But why then does it all feel so empty? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Because you f*cking bought the title </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonTheGTFCFan Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Matt Cavanagh: It's boring being a chelsea fan because now we have to wait 12 months for any real excitement? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Probably just the traditionalist in me, but what about the (possible) FA Cup Final?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted March 8, 2006 Administrators Share Posted March 8, 2006 I'm gonna try and get some thoughts down without overreacting, because simply put, Barcelona are a better team. That said, with the resources Chelsea have spent and can spend, should there be better teams? It's all well and good winning the league at a canter but the European Cup is the one people want, and three years running we've bowed out due to obvious deficienties in the team. Heck, the best showing was under Ranieri, he just went a bit loopy in Monaco. The Premiership is obviously the bread and butter but when you've done what we've done the last two years you need to look further, and moreso look at yourself. Since Christmas we've been decidedly average in our league performances but the results have pretty much been rolling in, coupla anomolies aside. I've read today a Chelsea fan describe our style of football as "the equivalent of ringing doorbells and running away" which weirdly holds some truth. We do what is necessary to get by, we completely dominate teams maybe one in four, we're fantastic 90% of the required time. It's the other 10% which needs addressing. So, Mourinho. I don't want to criticise because he's such a good manager, but he's made some decisions over these two games which are questionable and need answering, or discussing at the very least. At home in Europe, you simply have to go for the throat, nothing less. Now I know from various reading I've done on him that he doesn't believe an away leg to be any more unwinnable than a home leg, but considering we needed two in the Nou Camp against arguably the best team in the world, it becomes somewhat harder. Personnel-wise, I can't argue with the first leg. The way we went about it was wrong though. Second leg, I'm not too fussed with the players he picked but damn, when Robben, Duff, and Cole are on the same pitch and you're still not doing anything of note then there's a problem. Barcelona don't have an elite defence, you pinpoint their weak areas (ie anyone but Puyol, ESPECIALLY Valdes) and you go for it. That's what Mourinho's generally been good at but the apparent failure to go after this coupled with the lack of urgency shown all night suggests they never really thought they could win. Moving on, I'm ignoring the rest of this season because the league is pretty much there and the FA Cup is ours to lose. The summer will be a very very interesting time at Chelsea. There's been a number of questions over a lot of players in the squad, and I'll address them seperately because, well, it'll become clear why. 'The Untouchables' - Petr Cech, John Terry, Frank Lampard. The core and heart of the team. Yet all three have been at times this season less than superb. Cech has an annoying habit of making very high profile mistakes. He's a top goalkeeper, sure, but when he makes the mistakes he tends to, it may be worth giving Carlo some games, just to keep him on his toes. Then there's Terry, a beast of a leader, gives his all, but is very very rash at diving into tackles in an all or nothing manner. When he wins it, fine, when he doesn't, we get punished. As captain and senior defender he needs to take that one aspect out of his game else we'll continue to be punished at the top level. Lampard's been less bad but has disappeared from games more this season, both legs against Barcelona in particular. We need our top players in these games and whilst he's done it more times for us than I care to remember, it's disappointing to see (or rather to not see). Those who may leave - Arjen Robben, Damien Duff, Asier Del Horno, Ricardo Carvalho, Robert Huth, Glen Johnson, Shaun Wright-Phillips Some of this group simply haven't produced the goods (SWP, ADH), some are decent but not top level and need to leave to find that level (Huth), and some are either fantastic or invisible. Duff and Robben. Robben in full flight is a joy to watch. Petulant, whinging, angry Robben is not. We've seen far too much of the latter this season and not enough of the former. Couple that with his serious injury problems the season before and we're yet to see value for money on him. The same token is applied to Duff. When he's fit, he's good, but he's a walking injury most of the time and for the money we paid, he's not done it enough. Now I'm not saying we should definitely get rid of these two but it's certainly worth debating. There's obviously the finances to go out in the summer and get some top players to come in and join around the core of Cech, Ferreira, Terry, Makelele, Essien, Lampard, Drogba, Cole, Gudjohnsen. These guys have been brilliant and deserve the credit they generally get. Whether we can get these top guys or not is another thing. Whether we need them or simply need to consider a change of style, or even if the two are combined (they must be), well, I'll continue to debate it really. Ramble over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benoit2 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Robben is still very young. It would be foolish to sell him. Mourinho, as the manager, has to be able to get the bad stuff out of Robbens game and improve him. Apart from that, I think Robben will also improve with age and learn from misstakes. Next four matches will be the start, I hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest YellowBlue Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by poyplemonkeys: Carragher isn't as good as Gallas. How many World Cups did Carragher win? How many European Championships did Carragher win? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> He won as many as Gallas won <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> How many caps does Carragher have? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> 1 - Caragher's a bit younger the Gallas. 2 - Since when do international caps have anything to do with how good a player is? <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Are they for a better nation? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Well, actually, both England and France reached the quarter finals of the Euro, and England reached the quarter finals of the WC while France went out in the group stage. So, I guess this means that France isn't better... <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> How many Premiership titles does Carragher have? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> How many CL titles does Gallas have? <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> How many FA cups does Carragher have? How many League cups does Carragher have? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Carragher has 1 FA Cup, 2 League Cup and 1 UEFA Cup. Gallas has 1 League Cup. Carragher wins here, too... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieDay Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Matt Cavanagh: It's boring being a chelsea fan because now we have to wait 12 months for any real excitement? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> That's the most disppointing thing, only the FA cup to play for now. Feels like the season is over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benoit2 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JamieDay: Feels like the season is over. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I feel the same. (also because the league *should* be over). Though it may change in a few days when Chelsea play again in the league and FA Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcav Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I feel ten times more gutted now than I did last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanyi Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Then there's Terry, a beast of a leader, gives his all, but is very very rash at diving into tackles in an all or nothing manner. When he wins it, fine, when he doesn't, we get punished. As captain and senior defender he needs to take that one aspect out of his game else we'll continue to be punished at the top level. Lampard's been less bad but has disappeared from games more this season, both legs against Barcelona in particular. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I agree about JT, although I'd be more concerned about his habit of jumping with his arms spread than his diving into tackles, since he tends to win the ball in the latter. His form has dropped of late, but he's still been by far our best player this season (esp when seated next to Carvalho). As for Frank, bear in mind he's been out of position for both Barca games so while he's been invisible, it's not entirely his fault: Lamps is a specialist in his one position and putting him in DMC was one of Mourinho's more idiotic ideas. I'd disagree that he hasn't been performing this season, either; to me, Lamps' greatest attribute has always been his discipline and positioning, if you watch games carefully although he's not at the forefront of the action as often as last season, he's nearly always the one starting the moves off, switching the play to the flanks and trying through balls. I can only assume you're looking for him to adopt a Gerrard headless chicken approach where he charges all over the field and does everything, but I'm happier with Lamps keeping the team's shape and controlling the play, which he does superbly. <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">'The Untouchables' - Petr Cech </div></BLOCKQUOTE> No. I wouldn't sell him, but he's nowhere near the keeper people think he is. He's good, but he makes too many mistakes. I'd put Carlo back for a season or two until he's too old, then bring in Cech once he's matured and streamlined his (undeniable) talent. <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Those who may leave - Arjen Robben, Damien Duff, Asier Del Horno, Ricardo Carvalho, Robert Huth, Glen Johnson, Shaun Wright-Phillips </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I doubt Robben will leave, Mourinho likes him too much. Del Horno and Carvalho should be certs, Huth and Johnson I'd say were candidates for loans and SWP will probably get another season, especially if Duff does make way (which would be a shame). If Jose showed more confidence in some of those players, I bet they'd perform a lot better. I'd add Geremi and Crespo to the list of likely departures. Assuming this is the end of our season, here's how I see the players' performances: Cech 5, Cudicini 6, Johnson 6, Ferreira 7, Terry 8, Carvalho 5, Gallas 6, Huth 4, Del Horno 5, Bridge (only played one game, but been great for Fulham- hope he stays), SWP 6, J Cole 9, F Lampard 8, M Essien 7, C Makelele 8, Gudjohnsen 7, Geremi 6, Maniche 5, D Duff 5, A Robben 6, D Drogba 6, H Crespo 7, C Cole 6. I don't think we'll attract many top players though, not with our reputation (although our reputation as, to quote, classless c*nts might be the reason Ballack will join us!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 Have any of you voted for our player of the season on www.chelseafc.com ? I voted for Joe Cole, simply nailed down one of the wing posistions with constant performances. Basically its now Joe Cole and 1 of 3 for the other wing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted March 10, 2006 Administrators Share Posted March 10, 2006 I went Cole, slightly ahead of Willy and Essien Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieDay Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 Voted for Cole, he's been brilliant this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 What you guys think on the current centre back status. Atm, i dont like Carvalho playin as we always leek goals when he plays, hes good individually but the team ethic seems to go out the window. Think we are really missing bridgey atm, del horno is not producing and we need to move willy back into the centre to tighten the defence up, thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ryan King Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 Juni, you've expressed some pretty harsh views there, I've got to disagree with a few of them. Mourinho vs Barca home leg, I don't think Jose really made any tactical mistakes 11 vs 11. If we tried to go toe-to-toe attacking with Barca, we would have left massively vulnerable to conceding. I would have approched it in the same way- prioritise keeping a clean sheet at home, then score in the Nou Camp to make their task harder. All in all, after a dodgy sending-off, everyone has different solutions on how the team should have been reshuffled, and I don't personally believe that bringing Geremi on for Cole was the wisest move. Fact was, over the two legs it was clear that Robben was seen by Mourinho as being able to have a more effective role than he ever displayed- this affected his substitutions, tactical decisions, formation, etc. I think Damien Duff has been well worth the money we spent for him three seasons ago. In the 03-04 season especially, he was vital to us, despite spending months out injured. Petr Cech making too many mistakes is another notion I have to question- the only goal I can remember that he was solely responsible for us conceding this season was Bellamy's at the Bridge, and he didn't put a foot wrong for the whole of last season. Everything else you said is spot on though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieDay Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dee: What you guys think on the current centre back status. Atm, i dont like Carvalho playin as we always leek goals when he plays, hes good individually but the team ethic seems to go out the window. Think we are really missing bridgey atm, del horno is not producing and we need to move willy back into the centre to tighten the defence up, thoughts? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> I'd like Carvalho to leave and never come back, I think I'm harsher on him than most Chelsea fans but just think he constantly and consistently makes the wrong decisions. Ideally Terry and Gallas at CB, we're so solid with those two. Bridge looked decent for Fulham and England so would like Jose to really give him a chance. I'd like us to buy a new right back but can't think who. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanyi Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Mourinho vs Barca home leg, I don't think Jose really made any tactical mistakes 11 vs 11. If we tried to go toe-to-toe attacking with Barca, we would have left massively vulnerable to conceding </div></BLOCKQUOTE> That's true, but then consider that Barcelona were always likely to be slightly more defensive than normal (which they were) and that we could afford to concede a goal without drastically changing the situation, while they would obviously want to keep us out for as long as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 Yeah jamie im quite harsh on him as well, i think hes a good player but jsut doesnt fit into our team. As for a right back the past few months am i the only person who thinks that Glen Johnson has looked good? Against Everton i think he was up there as one of our best players. If we could train him up a bit more defensively do you think he could fit in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Super Willy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieDay Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Looking forward to watching it again on MOTD, and the celebration Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted March 11, 2006 Administrators Share Posted March 11, 2006 man i couldn't believe that, i love him like a small pet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 You guys hear the bet between JT and Willy G, 50 quid a year on who scores the most. JT got 4 this season and willy 3, draw on the cards? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieDay Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Mourinho admits he wants Ballack Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho has confirmed he wants to sign Michael Ballack - and is waiting for the Germany captain to give him an answer. Ballack, 29, is out of contract at Bayern Munich at the end of the season. And Mourinho told German newspaper Bild: "I want him. He has said he needs time before making a decision. I respect that. Now it's up to him." Mourinho said Ballack joining would not signal Frank Lampard's exit - insisting he wants them both as a "dream pair". Lampard has been linked with a summer move to Barcelona with Ballack's arrival being seen in some quarters as a signal of the England international's possible departure from Chelsea. But Mourinho added: "For me Ballack is one of the best players in the world. "He's very intelligent, tactically very strong and he scores a lot of goals. "For me in Europe there's only Frank Lampard who plays at that level. The two would form a dream pair." Manchester United stated earlier in the season that they had pulled out of the race to sign Ballack while Italian side Inter Milan and Spanish club Real Madrid have also been linked with the German international captain. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> So it's true then, Essien, Ballack and Lampard for next season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncerboy13 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JamieDay: Voted for Cole, he's been brilliant this season. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> SWP got my vote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieDay Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Chelsea will know how many Man City fans have visited the site at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncerboy13 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Come home baby Shauny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted March 13, 2006 Administrators Share Posted March 13, 2006 I just worked out that 39 of Chelsea's 58 Premiership goals have been in the second half, 18 of them coming between 61 and 75 minutes, and ten in the last fifteen minutes of games. We rule in many different ways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncerboy13 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 You don't rule for working that out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieDay Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 You're like Motty, in the days when he was good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beffrey Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 I agree with everything you say Shanyi. It has maybe a little harder to feel for the club when Mourinho (still ****ing whining about the first leg?), Drogba, Robben etc are acting like *****, but you grin and bare it. The fact is the more success you achieve, the less it means. I remember the buzz I used to get when we beat and team like Man United or Newcastle in the mid-Nineties, It was so against the odds and just such a sensational feeling - now it's like we're expected to win every game, and when we invariably do it doesn't quite feel the same. Despite that, I still when ape when Gallas' strike went in - amongst a York pub packed to the rafters with Spurs fans? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieDay Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 I know what you mean, there's only a handful of games I've really been up for this season. Back in the day every game produced that feeling. It's been a pretty dramatic transition and yeah Drogba especially needs to sort it out. Robben not so much and Mourinho needs to learn how to lose. It's okay having a moan off sometimes, but not every time we lose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieDay Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Probably a long shot but can anyone get me a ticket for the West Ham game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonTheGTFCFan Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bouncerboy13: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JamieDay: Voted for Cole, he's been brilliant this season. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> SWP got my vote </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Bet Sun Jihai wins your online POY poll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Sun Jihai used to win MOTM votes on our website for games he didn't even play in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted March 13, 2006 Administrators Share Posted March 13, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JamieDay: Probably a long shot but can anyone get me a ticket for the West Ham game? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> bah, if you'd asked before now I'd have gotten one when I went down this morning. Might be able to still grab you one with my brother's membership, I'll let you know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcav Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 I voted for Joey because he's awesome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncerboy13 Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 Sun's chippy is awesome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieDay Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Juni: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JamieDay: Probably a long shot but can anyone get me a ticket for the West Ham game? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> bah, if you'd asked before now I'd have gotten one when I went down this morning. Might be able to still grab you one with my brother's membership, I'll let you know </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Nice one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 What you guys think about the Ballack situation? Essien inevitably to replace Maka and Lamapard and Ballack ahead of him if he comes? Duno why they would want to replace Maka though atm as hes still first class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted March 13, 2006 Share Posted March 13, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Juni: I just worked out that 39 of Chelsea's 58 Premiership goals have been in the second half, 18 of them coming between 61 and 75 minutes, and ten in the last fifteen minutes of games. We rule in many different ways. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>you ruled hard in the Nou Camp, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Not many teams draw at the Nou Camp tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted March 14, 2006 Administrators Share Posted March 14, 2006 Taking no credit for this, it's off cfcnet but it's good <pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> ................................................Will's Harry's Pts Pts Pts Pts control Magic Req'd Left % Req'd Left % factor Number Chelsea 16 27 59% 19 30 63% 1.69 5 Man Utd 43 30 143% 49 36 136% 0.70 15 Liverpool 48 27 178% 48 30 160% 0.56 16 </pre> ---- "Magic Number" is in common parlance in US sports and has been for many years, particularly in Baseball and Hockey and it is accepted to mean the combined number of games won, plus games lost by the challenger, to achieve a championship. Since we count in points rather than games there is a slight difference, but it is semantics. There is one element that "Magic Numbers" do not take into account and that is the relative ease of obtaining the said number, i.e. if our magic number is currently 25, and there were 66 available points to achieve that (33 for us to gain, 33 for The Scum to lose) so we would need 25 out 66 - only a 37% success rate. If we were at a Magic Number of 25 and there were only 25 available points on the table then we would be needing an exact sequence of results to win, If that number were to drop below 25 available points then the result is unachievable, therefore we should pay attention to the Magic Number AND the ratio of Magic Number to Available Points as it is an indicator of the difficulty of the task "Will's control factor" - Another factor we should take into account is the "Control Factor", that is, how much of the required Magic Number total is in control of the team and how much requires assistance from the opposition. For instance, if we require 25 points out of 33 available, we have 100% control, assuming that The Scum require 40 points but have only 30 to play for therefore they do not have total control, nor do Liverpool. We can express the factor as the percentage of the "controllable" points required - in Chelsea's case, using this example, we would need 25 of 33 (76%) or to put it another way, we control 33 points and need 25, our control factor would be 33/25 =1.32 - anything over 1.00 is total control of destiny. ---- Nearly there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieDay Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dee: What you guys think about the Ballack situation? Essien inevitably to replace Maka and Lamapard and Ballack ahead of him if he comes? Duno why they would want to replace Maka though atm as hes still first class. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Well he is getting on a bit now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieDay Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 My head hurts now Juni Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beffrey Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 I think my dads getting me a ticket for the Newcastle when I'm back home. T'will be my first game since Notts County. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcav Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Ballack a done deal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Matt Cavanagh: Ballack a done deal? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> Its looking very likely at the minute. Quality player, but he is only really remembered by Chelsea fans for diving against us last season. Would be a nice combination with Essien, Lampard and Ballack. Doubt much teams could cope with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted March 17, 2006 Administrators Share Posted March 17, 2006 Because I feel like it, goals and assists charts for this season for the first team since assists aren't logged for reserve and youth, but i'll do goals for them <pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> - Goals - Frank Lampard 18 Hernán Crespo 12 Didier Drogba 11 Joe Cole 9 Arjen Robben 7 John Terry 4 Own Goals 4 Damien Duff 3 William Gallas 3 Eidur Gudjohnsen 3 Ricardo Carvalho 2 Carlton Cole 2 (*1 for reserves) Gérémi 2 Asier Del Horno 1 Michael Essien 1 Paulo Ferreira 1 Shaun Wright-Phillips 1 (- Reserves and Youth - ) Scott Sinclair 18 Jimmy Smith 8 Danny Hollands 6 Dean Furman 4 Phillip Younghusband 4 Liam Bridcutt 3 Shaun Cummings 3 Jack Watkins 3 Harry Worley 3 Ricardo Fernandes 2 Fabio Ferreira 2 Anthony Grant 1 Sam Hutchinson 1 Glen Johnson 1 Joe Keenan 1 Michael Mancienne 1 Filipe Morais 1 Tomi Saarelma 1 James Simmonds 1 Dean Smith 1 Joe Tillen 1 - Assists - Frank Lampard 16 Didier Drogba 9 Eidur Gudjohnsen 9 Joe Cole 7 Damien Duff 6 Arjen Robben 6 Hernán Crespo 6 Michael Essien 5 Shaun Wright-Phillips 5 Asier Del Horno 4 William Gallas 3 John Terry 2 Ricardo Carvalho 2 Robert Huth 1 Claude Makelele 1 Lassana Diarra 1 </pre> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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