English Premier Division Data [Discussion]

I'm looking at the database right now, Dorrington's natural fitness field is blank as is Sarr's determination. In my save Sarr has 5 for determination and Dorrington 12 for natural fitness.

18 minutes ago, Brentford Alan said:

I'm looking at the database right now, Dorrington's natural fitness field is blank as is Sarr's determination. In my save Sarr has 5 for determination and Dorrington 12 for natural fitness.

That's great man, but I just loaded a third and fourth fresh save file and got 4 Determination again for Sarr. The odds are extradimensional if this is happening randomly. It is also entirely possible that he started on 4 Determination for you and a some point ticked up to 5. I'd advise you to load a fresh save as the Spurs manager. He will have 4 Determination, I can all but guarantee it.

That said, with Dorrington though it seems it was just wild coincidence, he's rolled a 9 and 10 in Nat Fitness these times around. I can upload all of my save files if necessary.

I guess it could be blank but it's almost certain to be 4 in order to fit in with Sarr's CA?

On 27/10/2023 at 12:56, ajw10 said:

Arsenal are missing all records from the results. No record win, defeat etc.

Declan Rice is suspended for the CL and he shouldn't be.

Still none the wiser as to whether Odegaard's transfer instalments is a graphical glitch or if it has a real financial impact.

@Pete Sottrel

Hi @ajw10 - sorry for not addressing the missing records issue. It is being investigated; the records have been entered correctly in the database.

On 31/10/2023 at 09:13, Pete Sottrel said:

Thanks for your input @Baines - Branthwaite has certainly had a good start to the season.  He was reviewed thoroughly following his season at PSV, and we will be undertaking another in-depth review in January.  How is he performing in-game for you (I am guessing that you have been playing FM as Everton manager)?

I will say, at first glance his stats don't look any different to FM23 (but i stand to be corrected!!) - i just remember his acc/pace being at 12 or 13, also his strength. He's an absolute unit. There was an interview with Ben Godfrey who said Branthwaite is also deceptively fast (one of the fastest at the club) - obviously pace not acceleration. He out muscled and out paced Antonio on the weekend against West Ham in a straight race.

At the same time, i think Tarky is underwelming as well - i think the researcher probably has him too quick, but not as strong/aggressive/brave as he should be. He's always the first one in and doesn't shy out of any tackles

Duplicate entries for Theo Avery in Forest U18s and Lewis Barker is missing from the U23s as well as George Hemmings and Evan Boulter from the U18s

On 25/10/2023 at 11:16, ChrisNUFC said:

Newcastle United

Outside of Rafa Benitez there's no obvious changes to NUFC's favourite staff/icons/legends list since I last did the data. 

Eddie Howe, Keiran Trippier, Joelinton should be easy additions to the above. 

Steve Bruce should have his entry in disliked staff list increased.

 

Board

The board demands are way too high and harsh, too. Eddie Howe seems to get sacked if Newcastle aren't in top 6 by November. Perhaps adding Eddie Howe to the board's favourite staff list would help, or easing the expectations that Newcastle qualify for Champions League, which is more of a long-term plan than a season-to-season expectation. 

The expectation Newcastle should be challenging for the title within 5 seasons seems high too, while it could be lip service every talk of becoming the best team in England has always had a 10 year time frame. 

I'd argue that the board are more focused on building reputation over time, such as becoming the biggest club in England first leading in to bigger expectations such as qualifying and winning the Champions League. Part of this should have a board culture of increasing infrastructure to be the best in the country. Signing u18s for the future. Again this all fits in with the long-term plan and desire to increase the profile of Newcastle United (and cynically sell young players on for large profits to help with FFP). 

I'd also suggest buying/selling players for profit and working within FFP/Wages as an essential demand. Board are very aware of their FFP limits and the need to build up sponorships and revenue to grow bigger, part of which will be selling players on for profit. 

So for me (in FM terms) the focus from the board should be requirements to increase reputation, increase revenue, work within budgets and develop the club's infrastructure. There should be a desire to qualify for European football.

Supporter Profile

I'm not sure there are any fans, certainly not a majority, that would expect as a requirement for Newcastle to qualify for the Champions League every season, certainly not this season. These expectation seem very high too. The biggest requirement from our fanbase is having a team that tries and isn't boring to watch. 

Hardcore suppoters seems low on intitial viewing, consider it took 14 years of Mike Ashley for some people to finally call it a day.

I'd say family is slightly too high, for patient and temperatment. There's a lot of audible groans and moans at St. James' Park at times. Also in the literal sense the family section is often the area with spare/empty seats for resale.

Casual and fair weather percentage seems very high, as you can't get into SJP without a season ticket or complete luck through the membership ballot.

I'd say core needs to be higher, hardcore slightly higher, and a small adjustment to Corprate (as new boxes and corporate areas were built over the summer). 

Injuries

Nick Pope missing finger/hand injury from 22/23 season.

Bruno missing reoccuring ankle injury from 22/23 season.

Player Issues

Some of these are perhaps 'pet peeves' with the dataset over all, certainly around what I feel is a misconception with Acceleration and Pace, where people seem to think the speed someone goes over 10 yards is the same as someone going 30-80 yard full sprint.

Miguel Almiron 
Acceleration 16, Pace 17; I'd say his acceleration is his main strength, his overall pace over distance isn't actually that powerful. So I'd probably keep his acceleration where it is (or slight increase) but lower pace. 
Agility and Balance should probably be rounded together around 14 each
Determination seems low, as he rarely seems to drop his head if Newcastle go a goal behind
Positioning has improved over the last 18 months under Eddie Howe, is a strong part of the pressing game
Teamwork is another one of his key strengths, always tracking back to double up with Trippier
Stamina: 15 - Often covers the most ground p/90 and his intensity in the press is still going after 75 minutes. So this seems low to me
I'd lower his ability/effectiveness to play LW/LW as he hasn't played those positions reguarly since joining Newcastle
Technique, if this is still linked to how fast the player moves with the ball at their feet, seems low too. While he doesn't have consistent technique, it feels low at 12. 

I'd add a basic level of English, its only taken him several years, but he finally gave an interview in English

Elliott Anderson
I'd reduce his ratings at LW and CM, that's still very much a work in process for a player who spent most of his time as a 10 in development
Dribbling, Agility and Balance have always been his strengths, so surprised to see them so middle of the road/not standing out within his overall profile
Acceleration and Pace, I'd increase acceleration as his short distance speed is good, his sustained speed is not however

Sven Botman
Determination and Leadership feel low, his really grown into the team over the last 12 months and is another player that doesn't allow his head to drop after conceding, you can see him regaining the focus of his teammates during the game

Bruno Guimaraes
Acceleration and Pace, I believe most people that have watched Bruno over the last 18 months will tell you this is his major weakness, he has no pace and is entirely 1 speed when it comes to running. While he hits max speed straight away he often looks like he's running in treacle when going over a distance. I'd drop pace heavily.
Balance, 12 is incredibly low for a player that is nearly impossibe to pressure off the ball

While his preferred position in-game is set as DM/DLP he has been on record as saying he wants to play higher up on the pitch as that's not his position/role
I'd add Joelinton as a teammate/friend in favoured personnel

Dan Burn 
Acceleration: 9, Pace: 12; I'd drop acceleration down further as it takes him a while to reach his top speed, however his top speed due to his stride is deceivingly good. 
Aggression feels low at 13 for someone who is always doing borderline yellow card tackle attempts
Balance seems harsh, I'd increase this or strength as he's not tripping over himself against smaller wingers, and he can't really muscle or push him off the ball either

Martin Dubravka
Punching (Tendency) I'd increase this greatly, as he'll reguarly punch/parry rather than hold
Rushing Out  (Tendency) I'd low this as he's not really a sweeper keeper at all, rarely ventures away from his 6 yard box
Determination could be lowered, doesn't really rally himself or those around him after conceding
Flair 14 is a surprise
Agility seems harsh at 12
I'd add avoids using weaker foot ppm

Ryan Fraser
Add Eddie Howe to disliked staff (and vice versa)

Alexander Isak
Composure should be increased as this along with his dribbling is his biggest strength
Balance I'd increase and lower strength, he's hard to knock off the ball when he's dribbling and twisting, but holding off defenders and hold up play isn't particularly strong
Jumping Reach of 16 feels wrong, even if he is 6'3

Joelinton
Dribbling 16 feels high, even considering his little cameos and flurishes last season
Heading 16 feels high too, I can't say he's ever caught me eye for any particular powerful accurate headers (if anything its the opposite)
Technique feels high, often 'looks' clumsey on the ball, despite his ability and he's certainly not quick with the ball at his feet
Anticipation is one of his strengths, as he's often intercepting passes
Jumping reach of 15 feels high for 6'1" player, he often wins headers through anticipation, positioning and strength
I'd lower his ability to play as a forward that's never been his position was forced into that role by Steve Bruce
Without being able to see its difficult to comment, but I'd increase his ability to use his left foot

I'd add Bruno as a friend/teammate

Sean Longstaff
Acceleration and Pace, I'd increase pace slightly
Aggression feels low and 'safe'
Natural Fitness feels low based on body type, general athletic ability
Unable to see but consistency and big games should have a good rating, while he's not an 'amazing' player, you know what you're going to get every game with his hardwork
I'd swap concentation (12) and composure (14) around as its the work off the ball where he excels, only recently starting to show promise with the ball

I'd lower his ability to play as DM, which is currently showing as natural, likewise remove RM/RW

Is set as a 'fringe player', so could do with his reputation increased to help him become a squad player, he's one of those 'manager favourites' that does the job he's asked to do

I'd add Dan Burn as friend/Teammate, Eddie Howe as favourite staff, Steve Bruce as disliked staff

Jacob Murphy
Dribbling 15 seems particularly high, has always come across as a beat the player with pace (runs with the ball) rather than close control, feints and deceptions
Acceleration and Pace, I'd have these the other way around 15 for pace and a higher acceleration, he's another player that is wickedly fast off the mark
Finishing I'd actually increase this as his shots are often on target, even if poorly placed at the keeper or hitting the inside of the bar/crossbar (I believe the low composure and decisions will help with that)

Determination and Teamwork feel very low, 

I'd remove the Likes to Lob Keeper trait and likes to beat opponent repeatedly trait

Nick Pope
Command of area seems high

Fabian Schar
Aggression feels slightly too high
Anticipation and Bravery are his biggest strengths off the ball
Strength however isn't one of his biggest strengths

Matthew Targett
Acceleration and Pace, I'd lower his acceleration greatly. His injury has affected him greatly.

Kieran Trippier
Jumping Reach I'd lower, this is one of his major weaknesses
Acceleration and Pace, I'd increase his acceleration slightly
Agility seems harsh, despite his age he can still track the fast twisting and turning wingers
Aggression seems low, prone to giving fouls away now and again
Positioning is an area I feel like he's weak in too

Joe Willock
Acceleration (17) and Pace (15), I'd swap these around as he's a player who shines with open field to run in to
Tackling is very low, especially with his low aggression, Willock is a very good tackler of the ball and rarely gives fouls away
Aggression I'd lower this, he's not an aggressive player, he's smart with the press and when he chooses to tackle preferring to intercept the ball
Flair of 15 feels high
Technique feels low at 14
Finishing, I'd lower

Squad Issues

Callum Wilson, Joe Willock, Anthony Gordon, Sean Longstaff and Harvey Barnes aren't rotated into the team by the AI. Unsure if Eddie Howe profile issue, player CA/Rep issue. 

Staff Issues

Add friendship roles between Ben Dawson, Neil Winskill, Graeme Carrick, Chris Moore and Adam Bartlett

Dan Ashworth
Working with Youngsters - 20. Seems very high. Understand this might have been his previous role at other club, but I wouldn't say it was something he excelled at. As it is his profile makes him one of the best Head of Youth Developments in the game. Either decrease the WwY rating, or decrease his preference for Head of Youth Development, as it's not a job he's done for since 2007, and seems to much prefer the more hands off technical roles.

Adaptability 17 seems very high but this based entirely on my belief that British people are too comfortable staying in England to seek to ever want to go abroad and learn another way of living

Birth Place: London?

Ben Dawson
Adaptability 18 is too high
Missing playing history at Queen of the South and College team in Philly
Favourite Club: Newcastle United
Working with Youngsters is a bit too high at 18
Determination is too low
His main skill as a coach is mental and technical development

 

Graeme Carrick
Overall the value distribution looks accurate, but perhaps a little too high
His strengths are Mental, Tactical and Technical with a rounded understanding of attacking and defensive principles
His knowledge attributes are too high
His motivation is too high

Neil Winskill
Defensive and tactical coach
People Management too high
Working with youngsters too high

Career Ambition: Head of Youth Development at Newcastle United
Increase Head of Youth Development staff role
Newcastle United supporter
Missing coach history at Ashington and West Allotment Celtic

Steve Harper
GK Distribution too high
Main strength GK Shot Stopping
Working with Youngsters too high
People Management too low
Level of Discipline too low

Friends with Tony Caig

Adam Bartlett
Main strength distribution

Tony Caig
Main strength handling
Seems to have random values added to other staff roles?

Mark Atkinson
Friends with Neil Winskill, Ben Dawson and Liam Bramley (vice versa)

Ian Bogie
Defensive, Tactical Mental coach
Slightly lower working with youngsters
Motivating and people management should be higher

Steve Nickson
Lower Working with Youngsters
Adaptability seems far too high
Motivating and people management should be increased, a good organiser and taskmaster
Analysing Date should be increased (was data driven before it was a 'thing')
 

Hi @Pete Sottrel did you see this? 

Just loaded up the release version:

• Arsenal's season ticket cup games is incorrect - we've now got only 3 x european group games, but no fa cup games. It should now read 3 x UCL, 3 x UEL & 3 x UECL - but no FA Cup
• There's no third GK kit (it's bright green shirt, black shorts, bright green socks - similar template to Man Utd's)
• Home socks have different designs for PL & non-PL games

There's an interesting trend in the Man U Non-Playing staff profiles where a lot of the person data attributes and non-player data general attributes will have 0 for random seed, but for some reason determination and professionalism  will have a value of 12+. 

 

 

 

St. James' Park is set as having a grass pitch. It is a mix of synthetic/grass
St. James' Park does not have Digital ad hoardings checked (isn't this a requirement for all Premier League clubs?)
St. James' Park is set as 'Very Good' state, when in truth its Good at best
Environment is set as 'State of the Art', hard to comment without knowing what this actually does but St. James' Park is anything put State of the Art 

Fan expectations of 14 seems very high
Fan Temperament of 13 doesn't feel right at all

Support Objectives - Play high tempo pressing football. This isn't really a fan expectation or demand, but we won't complain if its done. 

Amanda Staveley and Yasir Al-Rumayyan have each other as favourite 'backroom staff'. They're married.
Jamie Reuben should be added as a friend to Amanda Staveley and Yasir Al-Rumayyan and vice-versa. 

Eddie Howe only has 100 board confidence

Shwan Jalal is set as First Team GK Coach, but has a 1 in role perference for GKing. Profile looks unfinished and very messy. 

Edited November 6, 2023 by ChrisNUFC

Kerr Smith being called in to the first set of international squads for Scotland is an odd one.

Really frustrated that the clauses bug hasn't been fixed for release date. Arsenal records still not showing up either.

Can't start a save until this clauses bug has been fixed. Feel like I've wasted my money

 

In the editor Odegaard's instalments have been listed twice. I've deleted one and now it only shows up with one lot of instalments for him.

The records bug is annoying as the correct data is in but it's not appearing in the game

Liverpool

According to his LinkedIn, Scout Salim Benahcene (28118128) left the club in 2019 to go freelance, so available on a free transfer is more appropriate

(He is also living in Grenoble, France  for his based location information)

https://www.linkedin.com/in/salim-benahcene-86520919/

Edited November 7, 2023 by tv_capper

7 hours ago, tv_capper said:

Liverpool

According to his LinkedIn, Scout Salim Benahcene (28118128) left the club in 2019 to go freelance, so available on a free transfer is more appropriate

(He is also living in Grenoble, France  for his based location information)

https://www.linkedin.com/in/salim-benahcene-86520919/

Thanks very much @tv_capper - much appreciated.

Could Youssef Chermiti's skin tone please be reviewed? It's quite a few shades lighter than it should be IMO.
Many  Thanks,

10 hours ago, ajw10 said:

Really frustrated that the clauses bug hasn't been fixed for release date. Arsenal records still not showing up either.

Can't start a save until this clauses bug has been fixed. Feel like I've wasted my money

 

Hello @ajw10 - I am really sorry.  The duplicate clauses issue has been logged and has been worked on as a high priority item by our coding team.  Again, I apologise that a fix for this has not been ready for the release.

The club records issue has also been logged, and is being looked at.

21 minutes ago, ting2004 said:

Could Youssef Chermiti's skin tone please be reviewed? It's quite a few shades lighter than it should be IMO.
Many  Thanks,

Thanks for this, @ting2004 - this has been brought up earlier, and has been fixed for a future update.

14 hours ago, ChrisNUFC said:

St. James' Park is set as having a grass pitch. It is a mix of synthetic/grass
St. James' Park does not have Digital ad hoardings checked (isn't this a requirement for all Premier League clubs?)
St. James' Park is set as 'Very Good' state, when in truth its Good at best
Environment is set as 'State of the Art', hard to comment without knowing what this actually does but St. James' Park is anything put State of the Art 

Fan expectations of 14 seems very high
Fan Temperament of 13 doesn't feel right at all

Support Objectives - Play high tempo pressing football. This isn't really a fan expectation or demand, but we won't complain if its done. 

Amanda Staveley and Yasir Al-Rumayyan have each other as favourite 'backroom staff'. They're married.
Jamie Reuben should be added as a friend to Amanda Staveley and Yasir Al-Rumayyan and vice-versa. 

Eddie Howe only has 100 board confidence

Shwan Jalal is set as First Team GK Coach, but has a 1 in role perference for GKing. Profile looks unfinished and very messy. 

Thanks very much for this, @ChrisNUFC - I will look into all the issues that you have raised.  Are you sure about Amanda Staveley?  A quick google search shows that she is married to Mehrdad Ghodoussi.

12 hours ago, Yer Maw said:

Kerr Smith being called in to the first set of international squads for Scotland is an odd one.

It is indeed, @Yer Maw - thanks for bringing it to our attention.

On 05/11/2023 at 16:30, hasanrocksworld said:

Duplicate entries for Theo Avery in Forest U18s and Lewis Barker is missing from the U23s as well as George Hemmings and Evan Boulter from the U18s

Last information I had was that Lewis Barker left and went to Grantham Town on a free in 2022. I'll double check that.

George Hemmings is on my list of players to sort out, and, as far as I'm aware, Evan Boulter is 15, so won't be added into the game this time round.

The Theo Avery one is strange, he appears twice in the DB, and, as one has a random DOB, it hasn't been picked up as a duplicate. I'll arrange to get that one sorted. @Pete Sottrel 

Edited November 7, 2023 by robterrace

1 hour ago, robterrace said:

Last information I had was that Lewis Barker left and went to Grantham Town on a free in 2022. I'll double check that.

George Hemmings is on my list of players to sort out, and, as far as I'm aware, Evan Boulter is 15, so won't be added into the game this time round.

The Theo Avery one is strange, he appears twice in the DB, and, as one has a random DOB, it hasn't been picked up as a duplicate. I'll arrange to get that one sorted. @Pete Sottrel 

Thanks @hasanrocksworld and @robterrace - I will attend to that duplicate of Theo Avery - apologies for that; it will be fixed for a future update.

1 hour ago, Pete Sottrel said:

Thanks very much for this, @ChrisNUFC - I will look into all the issues that you have raised.  Are you sure about Amanda Staveley?  A quick google search shows that she is married to Mehrdad Ghodoussi.

Ah yeah my mistake on that one 

50 minutes ago, Pete Sottrel said:

Thanks @hasanrocksworld and @robterrace - I will attend to that duplicate of Theo Avery - apologies for that; it will be fixed for a future update.

Thanks Pete.

It will be the one without the second nationality.

On 22/10/2023 at 20:29, preben said:

• Enzo Fernández should have Lionel Messi set as "Favoured Personnel - idol", he has said this in multiple interviews, for proof see for example this one at 09:06: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOzEkmhfmVc 
• Julián Álvarez should have Lionel Messi set as "Favoured Personnel - idol", he has said this in multiple interviews, for proof see for example this one at 06:22: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2D43mW_ckc
• Joško Gvardiol should have Lionel Messi set as "Favoured Personnel - idol", he has said this in multiple interviews, for proof see for example this one at 00:08: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2SOK1_ahfc
• Jérémy Doku should have Lionel Messi set as "Favoured Personnel - idol", he has said this in multiple interviews, for proof see for example this one at 00:27: https://www.ouest-france.fr/sport/football/stade-rennais/video-stade-rennais-jeremy-doku-l-interview-decale-6abd8bb5-2201-4a40-81df-8a097fffabee 
• Alejandro Garnacho should have Cristiano Ronaldo set as "Favoured Personnel - idol", he has said this in multiple interviews, for proof see for example this one at 00:00: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0XJ08HUgcV8
• Luis Diaz should have Ronaldinho, Lionel Messi and Neymar set as "Favoured Personnel - idol", for proof see this interview at 00:07: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZugw_0Dl-8

Any chance of getting this added for the next data update?