Zero Sea Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Notice: Click here to my FM14 tactics version Tactic V13 come out! It is perfect and wonderful,and the formation is 433. Distinction V4 and V11 Tactic with "R" prefix means place your ST who use left leg to the right side, advantage to finishing and direct pass. Player Requirements FC/ST: 1. Finishing,Composure; 2. Pace &Acc, Dribbling. AMC(V11): 1. Pace &Acc, Dribbling; 2. Finishing, Composure;3. Passing, Creativity. AMCL/STL(V11): a little better with right foot; AMCR/STR: a little better with left foot. AMRL(inside): 1. Pace &Acc, Dribbling; 2. Finishing, Composure,crossing.My tactic need AMRL cut inside,so you can also train ST to AMRL. AML:a little better with right foot; AMR: a little better with left foot.(You can train your players into position that is orange or yellow color. Which is "Awkward" or "Unconvincing",but if he is strong,you can use immediately) Either foot? See his best foot. MC: 1.Passing, Creativity; 2.Dribbling,Acc &Pace 3. Finishing,Long shots 4(Not important). Tackling,Strength Stamina DM: 1. Strength, Tackling (better learned tackles), Passing, Creativity; 2. Long shots,Acc &Pace DRL: 1. Acc &Pace,Dribbling; 2. Tackling,Strength,3.Positioning,Crossing DL: a little better with right foot; DR: a little better with left foot.(You can train your players into position that is orange or yellow color. Which is "Awkward" or "Unconvincing",but if he is strong,you can use immediately). DC: 1. Jumping ; 2.Acc & Pace , Heading; 3. Positioning, Strength, Tackling GK: 1. Reflexes,One On Ones;2. Handling How important is each role to my tactic: GK>ST>AMRL>DC>DRL>MC>DM Match Preparation: Attacking Movement.The amount of training is max:50%;but when the familiarity is full, change to 30% Match preparation is a must, even if your team are gel-ed already, unless you want to give up on your league results. I personally recommend "Attacking Movement" You'd better play with very weak teams in friendlies of pre-season,it can improve more morales. Playmaker : ST Plays like Messi (ST) and Rooney (in Manchester United ago) Pitch Size: Small Corner: look attributes of conner and crossing Thow Ins: Don't use DRL and DC; Don't use who have "possesses long flat throw";attribute is not important, because it is short pass. Don't Set Long Shot. When down to 10 man: 4320 Touchline instructions Opposition Instructions The actual effect is difficult to test, so I do not use. Too many ST? Speedy type ST can train into Winger or AMC too. They will be much more stronger than traditional Winger or AMC. When can a tactic become gelled to the max? Normally, about 2-3 months, the Familiarity of Match Preparation will be maxed out, thus we can see the effect/result of the tactic more clearly. After 2-3 seasons later, when Squad Harmony is maxed out, the tactic will be fully utilize to the max. What is the use of Squad Harmony? Who does one improve them? Squad Harmony increase a team potential by alot, when it is maxed out, the team will be very strong and united. Deal with those players immediately with Unhappiness and/or need attention from you. Let them play some matches which are suitable for them. If letting them played in matches still cant solve their problem, just sell them away. Players who dislike one another, choose 1 and sell the other away. The best solution is to praise your players until they named you as favoured personnel, and stop praising them when you saw your name shown in favoured personnel. And when you try to pull a young player up, they will easily named you as their favourite persoannel. At the beginning of all new season, please set all bonus to "high". E.g High cup bonus, High league bonus etcs By choosing high bonus reward, your player will perform better. Try not to tweak my tactic. Please use the original tactic for at least half season to know how well is the tactic to your team. Then, you can try to tweak the tactic to suit yourselves as you will then know if what you are tweaking on will improve your team performance. If not, dont blame on my tactic if the results you have is not what you want it to be. Download If you can't download it in the download page right-click the mouse save target as V13 http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/downloads.php?do=file&id=7075 or https://hotfile.com/dl/224815065/c12c0dd/Zero_Sea_Fight_For_Athena_V13.rar.html V11 for 13.3.3(4231,not the best) https://hotfile.com/dl/200797086/1aaa817/Zero_Sea_Fight_For_Athena_V11.rar.html V10 for 13.3.2 https://hotfile.com/dl/196630227/ccda5b3/Zero_Sea_Fight_For_Athena_V10.rar.html V9 for 13.2.3 https://hotfile.com/dl/195274584/ef14c13/Zero_Sea_Fight_For_Athena_V9.rar.html V7 RayFile | Zero Sea Fight For Athena V7.rar V6 RayFile | Zero Sea Fight For Athena V6.rar V5 https://hotfile.com/dl/186135083/3275e22/Zero_Sea_Fight_For_Athena_V5.rar.html?lang=en V4(for 13.1.3) https://hotfile.com/dl/224918505/c6b4ccb/Zero_Sea_Fight_For_Athena_V4.rar.html save tactics (.tac) to My Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2013\tactics. save Players Filter (.pft) to My Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2013\filters. or import them with manager If you do not have an unzip software,you can use a free unzip software -- 7-zip 7-Zip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 Training(only for my tactics) Invidual Role Training GK: Goalkeeper DRL:1. Wing Back 2.Full BackWing 3.Quickness(if his Acc&Pace are not enough) DC:1.Limited Defender 2.Quickness DM:1.Box to Box Midfielder 2.Defensive Midfielder MC:Box to Box Midfielder AMRLC:1.Poacher 2.Inside Forward ST: Poacher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 Test I prefer use the results from others players to prove my tactics. Thank you very much for your tests! SI Forum What a tactic !!!With PSG 10 games 10 wins. 31 goals scored 8 conceded Omg I spoke too soon! What a finish!http://url1.uploadscreenshot.com/images/orig/12/34016470098-orig.jpg CL final! I had 7 ccs, they had 3. http://url1.uploadscreenshot.com/images/orig/12/34016570724-orig.jpg FM-BASE ive just begun a save useing v4 not too bad a start so far i was 2-0 down at man utd made 1 sub and drew 2-2 great tactic mate http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/attachments/football-manager-2013-tactics-training/285903d1354045650-%5Bfm13-1%5Dfight-athena-v3-real-madrid-style-v3-much-better-than-v2-barclays-premier-league_-overview-stages.png http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/attachments/football-manager-2013-tactics-training/285904d1354045653-%5Bfm13-1%5Dfight-athena-v3-real-madrid-style-v3-much-better-than-v2-swansea-city_-fixtures-schedule.png I must say this is the best tactic in fm13 so far (was using zero sea tactic before this patch as well), im playing as shakhtar (i know ukrainian league is not very strong but on the other hand my team is not the best in game)league: http://i.imgur.com/HQ5cg.png my best match so far: http://i.imgur.com/ym8Bm.png http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/attachments/football-manager-2013-tactics-training/287264d1354465732-%5Bfm13-1-3%5D-fight-athena-v4-spanish-ball-control-mourinhos-counter-attack-02.12.jpg 18 games.. all win Nice defensive tactic, Zero !! Keep it on!http://i50.tinypic.com/27y7iq1.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whizzkid Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Thanks for the new tactics - just a quick question i know you say use "attacking movement" for match preparation but what about training for the rest of the week - which do you use? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 Thanks for the new tactics - just a quick question i know you say use "attacking movement" for match preparation but what about training for the rest of the week - which do you use? The default is ok No special Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 It's from FM-BASE ive just begun a save useing v4 not too bad a start so far i was 2-0 down at man utd made 1 sub and drew 2-2 great tactic mate I must say this is the best tactic in fm13 so far (was using zero sea tactic before this patch as well), im playing as shakhtar (i know ukrainian league is not very strong but on the other hand my team is not the best in game)league: my best match so far: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
makman Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 did you try it with an other team in a stronger league? like BPL? And i want to know who are your best strikers and your best passer? In your file wich tac do we have to choose? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greggylad1 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Tactics been working like a charm for me on my new ajax save Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinneyboy Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Been using this with my arsenal game, very good tactic, very solid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jickyx Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 大师回不国内开贴吗?话说英文看的压力很大的 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janis Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 eumhhhh ok Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingEric07 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Same here, great results. First few games with the tactic not fluid: 3-1 0-0 3-1 3-2 2-2 1-2 The it became fluid: 3-0 1-0 3-0 3-0 5-0 2-0 4-0 The whole opposite foot thing works a treat. Full backs cut inside opening up much more passing options. The CM and AMC turn onto good foot and slip a through ball through to the AMR, AML and STC who can open their body up and shoot on goal on their stronger foot. Excellent tactic. Certainly the best I've used on 13.1.3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The RingMaster Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Crikey, I know it's not the highest level of football, and people will probably be more impressed by Arsenal away wins at Man Utd or whatever. But, this is a flabbergasting result given the status of both teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted December 1, 2012 Author Share Posted December 1, 2012 did you try it with an other team in a stronger league? like BPL? And i want to know who are your best strikers and your best passer? In your file wich tac do we have to choose? did you try it with an other team in a stronger league? like BPL? It is difficult to create miracles in BPL And i want to know who are your best strikers and your best passer? C Ronaldo and messi, they can play forward. In your file wich tac do we have to choose? I don't have too much testing for FMC Version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingEric07 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 In your file wich tac do we have to choose?I don't have too much testing for FMC Version The results in post#12 are FMC Version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The RingMaster Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 The results in post#12 are FMC Version ....as is post #13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalTrap Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 whats the diff between classic and new tactic? Im using classic btw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted December 1, 2012 Author Share Posted December 1, 2012 who is your best passer? KaKa David Silva Like AMC MC and AMC‘s requirements are almost They not only pass, but also goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMFC Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 First game with this tactic : Brest 1-5 PSG WOW mate... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted December 2, 2012 Author Share Posted December 2, 2012 whats the diff between classic and new tactic? Im using classic btw They are almost the same But I don't have too much testing for FMC Version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matox13 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 you can score with any tactic, but there is no tactic that prevents from conceding as soon as one is made, the one who do it will be the ultimate master, in this game is almost impossible to prevent conceding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMFC Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 What a tactic !!! With PSG 10 games 10 wins. 31 goals scored 8 conceded Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted December 2, 2012 Author Share Posted December 2, 2012 First game with this tactic :Brest 1-5 PSG WOW mate... What a tactic !!!With PSG 10 games 10 wins. 31 goals scored 8 conceded No tactic is unbeatable Luck is also very important. Attacking Midfielder (AMRLC) can come back in FM13.1.3 I didn't do anything for defence, but the defence is improved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammalc Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 very inconsistent for me still , decent wins followed by unexplainable defeats and draws . Personally i take results like the PSG one's with a very large pinch of salt , lets face it the resources and team of that Club you should be winning like that with an old fashioned 442 , much like those who rave about winning the Prem with Man Utd , Chelsea or Man City , it should be expected i Started using this tactic again with an end of season save game , with a Derby County team that had been top 3 in the Prem for 3 seasons on the trot . So they had a full pre season to get used to the tactic and after beating Spurs in the Charity Shield and Man Utd 3-1 in the League it looked a winner . However as with the previous versions after a while the inexplicable re appear , losing to Sunderland and Everton and drawing with Villa i now find myself 12th in the league , 15 points off the top and under pressure from the board . Four draws and four defeats in eighteen games excluding pre season will not see me in the job by Xmas . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rub Rub Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Just won 9-0! (all 9 goals where scored in first half!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted December 3, 2012 Author Share Posted December 3, 2012 It's from FM-BASE Originally Posted by riddler1299 18 games.. all win Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwazydavies Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Does not seem to work for me. I am not creating many chances, board are complaining that the football is not exciting. I am playing DR in DR and DL in DL position. Should I swap them to make sure this tactic works? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 Does not seem to work for me. I am not creating many chances, board are complaining that the football is not exciting. I am playing DR in DR and DL in DL position. Should I swap them to make sure this tactic works? You can train your players into position that is orange or yellow color, Which is "Awkward" or "Unconvincing",but if he is strong,you can use immediately Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShiningSuzume14 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Why in the filters there are some skills with 1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Good tactic for my 4th season Werder side. Not enough to overthrow Bayern for division title, but they're uneblieveably good :x Generally my team is godly at Home, and very.. well, random away. You might want to consider an away version for v5. Talking about FMC, btw. EDIT: Random does not always mean bad, however! (won home game 2:1 also) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassy Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Where can I download the new one from? The TC one so I can do shouts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Omg I spoke too soon! What a finish! CL final! I had 7 ccs, they had 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 Why in the filters there are some skills with 1? They are useful,but not necessary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonSteffa Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Your tactics sucked on the previous patches, but now its finally good. Definatly use this tactic if you are one of the top 5 teams in your league. The only tricky part is, is that you need COMPLETE DEFENDERS. Defenders that have the defending skills, and all of the physique, else you are most likely about to get over-run at a counter attack. If ZeroSea now manages to create a SUS tactic to apply for tough games, it would be a complete package. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 No tactic is eternal The tactics may make changes after the change of the game engine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 Where can I download the new one from? The TC one so I can do shouts? The Folder FMC Version New Tactics System Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkabas Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I'm trying your tactic with my Arsenal team. So far I'm getting some bad results. Having problems to score. Going to try a little bit more! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realboy Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Zero Sea, thx, great tactic.why in all your filters specified skill determination of the value of 12, at each position, it turns out is very important as well as specialized skills? and defenders, was not selected skill marking, it is not important at all? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 Zero Sea, thx, great tactic.why in all your filters specified skill determination of the value of 12, at each position, it turns out is very important as well as specialized skills? and defenders, was not selected skill marking, it is not important at all? My request is 15 except some strong or cheap players some lower league players also use my tactics, so the filter is conservative Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realboy Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Marcelo on your screenshot is right, and Ramos is left, is it not important that Marcelo cant play dr? and question about marking for defenders? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 Marcelo on your screenshot is right, and Ramos is left, is it not important that Marcelo cant play dr? and question about marking for defenders? You can train your players into position that is orange or yellow color. Which is "Awkward" or "Unconvincing",but if he is strong,you can use immediately Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonSteffa Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Hey Zero Sea, i have a question, i have Falcao, the best finisher in the game basicly, but he lacks the pace and dribbling when i look at your player requirements, should i sell him and get a quick fast dribbler with decent finishing or keep Falcao? I'm not sure how it works in this tactic. Besides that, Falcao scores around 50 goals a season anyways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Osmann Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 This is a ****ing great tactic. Played 5 games so far and won them all. Best FM13 by far! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted December 8, 2012 Author Share Posted December 8, 2012 Hey Zero Sea, i have a question, i have Falcao, the best finisher in the game basicly, but he lacks the pace and dribbling when i look at your player requirements, should i sell him and get a quick fast dribbler with decent finishing or keep Falcao? I'm not sure how it works in this tactic. Besides that, Falcao scores around 50 goals a season anyways. You can use Falcao pace and dribbling are just better than jumping and heading in my tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Osmann Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Make that 10 wins out of 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomnan Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 where can i use Jovetic?? ST AMC AMCL?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 where can i use Jovetic?? ST AMC AMCL?? I. ST,best 2. AML,also good 3. AMC, AMR, sometims Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecondor Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Regarding Training - Invidual Role Training: A) Focus intensity Light, Average or Heavy? B) Some roles (DC, DRL, DM, AMRLC) have more than a type of training in your rule: how do you setup them? Thx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 A) Focus intensity Light, Average or Heavy? Average B) Some roles (DC, DRL, DM, AMRLC) have more than a type of training in your rule: how do you setup them? "1."means the most important "2."means the second important For example messi‘s Invidual Role Training: Poacher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecondor Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 A) Focus intensity Light, Average or Heavy?Average B) Some roles (DC, DRL, DM, AMRLC) have more than a type of training in your rule: how do you setup them? "1."means the most important "2."means the second important For example messi‘s Invidual Role Training: Poacher Thanks Zero Sea! Also this year very good tactics After 6 matches, first place in the Cyprus League with Apoel: PTS 18 - W 6, D 0, L 0 - GF 20, GA 1, GD +19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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