arkitekt Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Hi all, I have given an attempt at creating a regional nation a go this year as i have been inspired by others giving it a shot. Im creating a West Outer London Nationmade up of teams from Surrey, Middlesex, Berkshire & Buckinghamshire. Here is the structure so far: Super League - 10 Teams play each other 3 times First Division - 12 teams play each other 3 times Second Division - 14 teams play each other twice Thierd Division - 16 teams play each other twice Development League - 20 Teams play each other once then a split in the middle with another round of games Inactive Division - 8 teams FA Cup - All team League Cup - Super to third Super cup Higher Cup - Group then knockout for Super to Second (Must have at least 6 U23 players in match 11) Lower Cup - Group then knockout Third to Development (Must have at least 6 U23 players in match 11) Changelist V0.1 - Created West Outer London Nation v0.2 - Created national stadium v0.3 - created competitions and cups v0.4 - added "a lower league" teams into the competitions v0.5 - swapped those teams with those that lie within the WOL area v0.6 - changed cities in the WOL area from England to WOL v0.7 - Changed people born in those birth nation to WOL v0.8 - Added Nation Rules - Changed all sub rules to 5 from 7 v0.9 - Re-structure of English Leagues - Set Prize money for leagues and cups Still to do Rivalries Awards Tweak reps and money Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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arkitekt Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 In the last screenshot ive got a slight issue with odd numbers for qualifaction places, whats all that about and how can i solve it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolanthustrel Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Give yourself a co-efficient. Preferably a low one. San Marino will be a little screwy for a season then return to normal. Or just leave it and it will normalise itself in 4-6 seasons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine_iron Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 with your permission i would like to add this to the list in the regional database thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkitekt Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 Give yourself a co-efficient. Preferably a low one. San Marino will be a little screwy for a season then return to normal. Or just leave it and it will normalise itself in 4-6 seasons I gave the nation a 0.01 coefficient for the last 5 seasons making it 0.05, so ill have to wait 5 years for it to work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkitekt Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 with your permission i would like to add this to the list in the regional database thread Sure no problem, im quite enjoying regional db's this year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine_iron Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Sure no problem, im quite enjoying regional db's this year I like to think I help bring these databases more into the limelight, when so much is taken by additional or extended national leagues and legends/historical or other fantasy databases. I may be wrong, I might not be helping at all! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkitekt Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 v0.10 - Added population to Capital high Wycombe - Placed Hayes and Yeading into the correct division - Edited co-efficients for WOL - Added nations treated as EU - Added nations not treated as foreign Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkitekt Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 v0.11 - Added Friendly cup competition for winners of League cups in England and WOL as a season curtain raiser Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkitekt Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 by looking at what people have been saying, im not going to add awards in at this stage, which is probably the last thing i need to add in actually. im going to run a test now to see if the db behaves itself lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkitekt Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 I am now looking for beta testers to test out the database to see if I have missed anything glareingly obvious, or even the little things By the way ive tested for 4 years without a hiccup. PM me if you want to beta test! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafino Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I wouldn't call Hayes & Yeading Outer London! Or Hanwell Town! But good effort Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine_iron Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I wouldn't call Hayes & Yeading Outer London! Or Hanwell Town! But good effort There always has to be some artistic licence to a database, to increase competitiveness I brought in clubs from outside my national boundaries, much like Cardiff and Swansea. I did not include them this year, also I think you have to look at places which have other things like geographical ties, some places may be slightly further away but contribute culturally to an area therefore would and should be included during independence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkitekt Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 I wouldn't call Hayes & Yeading Outer London! Or Hanwell Town! But good effort I do think they are because they play in the county cups of the counties included in the nation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkitekt Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 There always has to be some artistic licence to a database, to increase competitiveness I brought in clubs from outside my national boundaries, much like Cardiff and Swansea. I did not include them this year, also I think you have to look at places which have other things like geographical ties, some places may be slightly further away but contribute culturally to an area therefore would and should be included during independence Exactly, the db is what you want it to be to a curtain extent. I've deliberately left out reading and crystal palace because of competition. What people need to remember is that surreal and middlesex go way into London so maybe the name of the nation could.be better, but hey, most of it is west outer London lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafino Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Yes I understand by if you're going to include Hanwell Town then QPR is only a couple of miles up the A40 why not include them Should West London have it's own language? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolanthustrel Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 What people need to remember is that surreal and middlesex go way into London Doesn't Middlesex only exist as a postcode and cricket team now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine_iron Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Doesn't Middlesex only exist as a postcode and cricket team now? And a Rugby 7s event Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkitekt Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 Yes I understand by if you're going to include Hanwell Town then QPR is only a couple of miles up the A40 why not include them Should West London have it's own language? EKe as why I didn't include reading, I wanted a more competitive league rather than one team winning everything. Good idea about the language though, I didnt really think about that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkitekt Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 And a Rugby 7s event I go every year its ax fantastic event! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine_iron Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Well actually for my database Humberside doesnt exist, additionally I am actually using teams from south Humberside and the Hull area. Going back to the boudaries thing, my boundaries are very skewed as it comes off the coast, skirts hull, comes sharply down then encompasses Goole, turns sharply down then follows the Linconshire boarder. I used to include Newark but for the moment I have not, I am sorely tempted to bring it and Rossington back in as they along with Armthorpe usually take a lot of players from the area so have strong links to the other teams, again thats more cultural than geographic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkitekt Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 ok so ive just added awards and it crashes on the season update day :s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine_iron Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I had that same issue with my 2nd tier awards, not repeated it yet but all my first tier awards worked fine. How did you create them? I made my first tier ones from duplicates of the England ones, then duplicated the 1st tier ones to make the 2nd tier... it did not like the second step! The first tier copied from england premier division worked ok though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkitekt Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 Ive done exactly that and it crashed, do you think its because I.set dates for some of them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine_iron Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Ive done exactly that and it crashed, do you think its because I.set dates for some of them? Possibly, might have been the cause of mine too. I did not investigate enough and passed over that in favour of balancing finances. I will be looking at it this weekend as long as my 8-9 hour test today runs OK, ringers crossed. I will report back on my findings some time over the next few days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nottingham Forest Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 What nation would you use for this sort of thing? If no one has or is attempting it, I would consider doing an East Midlands one if there were enough teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine_iron Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 We have a whole thread called the Regional databases thread discussing all that Nottingham Forest, that includes a basic guide (you do not have to follow its order exactly) Located here http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/283874-The-2012-Regional-Databases-Thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkitekt Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 The aim for the weekend is to have the awards fully working, if I can get them working at all lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkitekt Posted November 19, 2011 Author Share Posted November 19, 2011 screw the awards, ive gone back a step. v0.12 - Max squad size of 23 for all divisions - Max Foreign and EU rules for each division - created West Outer London Weather (Duplicated English Inland but made Winter colder) - Revamped FA Cup for staggerd entry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine_iron Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 screw the awards, ive gone back a step.y Probably for the best, I am currently knee deep in inactive divisions, a job I have been putting off for a long time in favour of testing the playable divisions... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkitekt Posted November 19, 2011 Author Share Posted November 19, 2011 Probably for the best, I am currently knee deep in inactive divisions, a job I have been putting off for a long time in favour of testing the playable divisions... Ive only made one inactive division of 8 teams Currently testing the game as if i was playing it properly, starting with Whyteleaf in the bottom tier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine_iron Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 I am doing two, one of about 10 teams then a second division split into north and south (primarily for FA cup purposes). Good luck with the test and keep us posted! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
letissierandhenryaregreat Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 This is a really good idea, I can't wait to play it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkitekt Posted November 30, 2011 Author Share Posted November 30, 2011 I haven't forgotten by the way! Had a laptop malfunction and had to get it rebooted, should be available soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine_iron Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I haven't forgotten by the way! Had a laptop malfunction and had to get it rebooted, should be available soon FINALLY... Someone in a worse PC situation than me lol, I was beginning to look like a whiner! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Arrow Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Hate to disappoint but Aldershot is in Hampshire! Looks good though, will give it a go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkitekt Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 FINALLY... Someone in a worse PC situation than me lol, I was beginning to look like a whiner! Sucks dont it , but now its running as smooth as silk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkitekt Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 Hate to disappoint but Aldershot is in Hampshire! Looks good though, will give it a go. I did think that but ive stuck them in anyway because they play in the Surrey County Cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Arrow Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I did think that but ive stuck them in anyway because they play in the Surrey County Cup Nope, we definitely play in the Hampshire Senior Cup! However I agree they should be in this as geographically the boroughs of Rushmoor (Aldershot, Farnborough and Cove) and Hart (Fleet) are basically Surrey! Thinking about it as you have Aldershot, Cove and Fleet you could chuck Farnborough in if you had space. Anyway kutgw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShanghaiNugget Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I never understood how Aldershot is Hampshire and then Farnham is Surrey. Boundaries are confusing... Interesting choices in Abingdon, Didcot and Thatcham, wouldn't say any are near enough to be considered Outer London. Hell, Reading is nearer! You could choose Basingstoke too, seeing as people prefer to ditch their local team to watch London-based clubs. And on the topic of Hayes & Yeading, they're ground sharing at Woking this year so for the mean time I'd say they were in this catagory! And if you've got Fleet then you could probably have Hartley Wintney too, and where's Knaphill?! But, it does look good, the standard of teams is good and other than maybe Brentford, I can't see any team being head and shoulders above the rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkitekt Posted December 6, 2011 Author Share Posted December 6, 2011 Ok here is the BETA version of West Outer London Please report back on any isssues or bugs/improvments http://www.mediafire.com/?g09i3kk9nnlfhnz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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