nehpets81 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I have noticed that the bravery stat of some of my players is going down - does anyone know why this would be, and how I can improve it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbrahimAliMaher Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 how I can improve it? Half a bottle of vodka pre-match each? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lambs Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Off the top of my head I can only think of tutoring, are they being mentored by a coward? Apart from that I have never seen it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike7077 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Yeah, tutoring seems the only sensible suggestion I can think of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nehpets81 Posted September 24, 2008 Author Share Posted September 24, 2008 Off the top of my head I can only think of tutoring, are they being mentored by a coward?Apart from that I have never seen it. That's what I would have thought too, but they are first teamers who are too old for tutoring. They have lost a few matches recently, not sure if that would have an affect? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noidenous Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Nah. If it were to visibly drop after two losses, it would be more likely to fluctuate in the same ratio as morale. I've certainly never noticed that happening. The only suggestion I can think to make, would be to have them play in front of your largest crowds for the last 15 minutes or so, of every game for a month. If you don't get a boost from that, try starting them for a half every match in those same sized crowds. Which club are you at, and how high is your coaches' mental training ability? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kreman Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Following on from that, I would suggest that you invest in a coach with very high Mental training abilities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nehpets81 Posted September 24, 2008 Author Share Posted September 24, 2008 Nah. If it were to visibly drop after two losses, it would be more likely to fluctuate in the same ratio as morale. I've certainly never noticed that happening.The only suggestion I can think to make, would be to have them play in front of your largest crowds for the last 15 minutes or so, of every game for a month. If you don't get a boost from that, try starting them for a half every match in those same sized crowds. Which club are you at, and how high is your coaches' mental training ability? Ok, I will give it a go. I'm Burton and not sure about the coach stats off the top of my head, will check it this eve - thanks for he suggestions. Can I assume from this, then, that coaches/training can have an effect on bravery? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noidenous Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Can I assume from this, then, that coaches/training can have an effect on bravery? Actually, I was asking out of curiosity since I don't think I've ever seen a player's bravery stat go down... even in conference saves, where players will be under horrible coaches for anywhere up to 12 months. It seems strange to think that someone could become more cowardly as they get more game time... especially if they were regulars at a reasonably large club. One would like to think it doesn't happen in the game, but on the flip side, there has to be a process in which we can hasten that particular mental trait's growth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xennaz Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Perhaps if you continually tell them to tackle easy? I have no idea, really. Hehe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIK Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Does injuries have an influence on this stat? So if a player gets a long-term injury he may never get his bravery back at a decent level again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCFC Gee Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Just a thought but makes sense to me, it's often said that young players play without fear, if this is true then it makes sense for bravery to go down as a player gets older. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 It's probably related to training- it won't be down to much else tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckus Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Following on from that, I would suggest that you invest in a coach with very high Mental training abilities. I read somewhere (a thread I created) that people told me that the mental coaching doesnt matter with coaches. Neither does their Determination, Man Management & Discipline. Those things only matters for Assistants (they told me) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakhabbit Posted September 25, 2008 Share Posted September 25, 2008 Bravery is one of several non-trainable attributes But if your training regime is affecting it then it's in an indirect manner. If your player is near/at his potential ability then for him to gain Mental improvements (due to increase in age) his Technical/Physical areas will be adjusted downwards, however if your training regime is compensating for this shift in ability spread it may be causing what your seeing. I'm not saying this IS what is happening, but it's the only explanation i can see from the data you have given so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nehpets81 Posted September 26, 2008 Author Share Posted September 26, 2008 Bravery is one of several non-trainable attributesBut if your training regime is affecting it then it's in an indirect manner. If your player is near/at his potential ability then for him to gain Mental improvements (due to increase in age) his Technical/Physical areas will be adjusted downwards, however if your training regime is compensating for this shift in ability spread it may be causing what your seeing. I'm not saying this IS what is happening, but it's the only explanation i can see from the data you have given so far. I hadn't thought of that - it is definitely something worth considering. It is quite early in the game, and the coaching staff were pretty poor though - I'm not sure this environment would enable the players to be at their full potential. However I am aware that players don't improve much after a certain age - could they have reached a ceiling in their development even though they are not at their PA? Is that how it works? If so, then training in some areas could force the untrainable stats down? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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