djvandyke Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 If you loan a player out does he stop being considered as being trained by the club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeltmurrayuk Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Yes the rules have been updated to reflect the real life rules. A player needs to complete three years registered at your club (loaning a player out unregisters them from your club). The Due Date in the Homegrown View should update to tell you the new due date when you loan a player out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djvandyke Posted October 24, 2010 Author Share Posted October 24, 2010 Thanks, something to bear in mind before you sign any 17/18 year olds, loaning them out could lose them their home grown status long term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KronikAlkoholik Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 What are the rules regarding Grown in country, does that mean he has to be home grown for some club or just trained in that country for 3 seasons? There is a difference there, like if he trained for 3 different clubs in the same country he would not be home grown for any of them but could he be grown in country? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quackje Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 I would assume he would be homegrown for the country. It would be ridiculous any other way, a player that has grown up and trained all his career in Spain is clearly Spanish trained whether he changed clubs every 6 months or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Jie Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I don't like this rule change. I just lost out two home-grown players who have a due date because I loaned them out to gain experience. There must be at least some kind of warning if you do this kind of rule change as the home grown rules can be an annoying ruling for European squads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiggyDempsey Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Didnt know that there was a change, there really should be an ingame warning from your assistant about things like this and ingame warnings about several other things that they just leave to get stung by Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rice2cu Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Ive known this for a while after I had some problems with loaning players out..... Ruined my save TBH. Ive also had a lot of discussion on the forum with people who don't know this new addition and refuse to believe it. There should definately be some kind of in-game info on this. (If a player under the age of 18 tains in a country for 3 FULL years b4 his 21st birthday, he will become "Trained in Nation". So if you loan out a 17 year old for a seasson to a club in the same country, he will still be "Trained in Nation" but he won't be "Trained at Club" unless he has been with your club since at least the previous season. Bring in an 18 year old from abroad, and he can't get "Trained in Nation/Club" tag becuase he hasn't got 3 full years left b4 his 21st brithday) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coentrao Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Ugh didn't know about this.. kind of sucks but if it reflects real life.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinGoodey Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Bring in an 18 year old from abroad, and he can't get "Trained in Nation/Club" tag becuase he hasn't got 3 full years left b4 his 21st brithday) Just to correct this statement - if you sign someone ON their 18th birthday, then they WILL get home grown status Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiggyDempsey Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Just to correct this statement - if you sign someone ON their 18th birthday, then they WILL get home grown status Doesnt have to on his 18th birthday but in the first 6 months of his 18th year. I signed a 18 y/o regen in the january window that was 18 since the 29th July and he will become homegown(club) in 3 years time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 That is such a pain, my club really struggles to produce any quality through the youth academy so I buy foreign players young and loan them out, assuming they will class as home-grown for club. There should really be some kind of warning, or something on a player's page to show how many days he has trained at club and how many days are available to qualify as home grown. Or shall I just get a pen and paper and keep track of each one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wen Jie Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 That is such a pain, my club really struggles to produce any quality through the youth academy so I buy foreign players young and loan them out, assuming they will class as home-grown for club. There should really be some kind of warning, or something on a player's page to show how many days he has trained at club and how many days are available to qualify as home grown. Or shall I just get a pen and paper and keep track of each one? This indeed caused a lot of pain for many of us. With no clear rules and misleading dates/criteria, the best you can do is to look under your squad list, under views/home grown status. The due date will be available there but be forewarned that the date does disappear if you sent your players out on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reffi Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Annoying problem - great thread Im still not completely clear on the rules - guess I will do some testing. However I am baffled that my 2o year old former Arsenal player who has never left the country doesn't qualify as a national player in the European competitions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinGoodey Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Annoying problem - great threadIm still not completely clear on the rules - guess I will do some testing. However I am baffled that my 2o year old former Arsenal player who has never left the country doesn't qualify as a national player in the European competitions. Why are you bothering to register an U21 player for Europe - they can play automatically without being registered? Just leave a space in the 25, or put someone else in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reffi Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Why are you bothering to register an U21 player for Europe - they can play automatically without being registered? Just leave a space in the 25, or put someone else in. Actually he may be older, but that is besides the point after reading this tread I wanted to test it. The problem is he doesn't show as a national player and doesn't have a due date, so at 25 he still wont count towards the national players although he is very much English and having been trained in Arsenal for his entire youth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya_ya_ya Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Anyone know what the situation is if you co-own a player? Is it only the club that the player plays for during the co-ownership period that builds up homegrown status, or do both / neither? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
burtur Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Just started a new save (11.2.1) where I simulated for 8,5 seasons and took over at Man Utd. I was about to register my CL quad and here are two players which I specifically kept due to their HG status (trained in nation, should be trained in club in the old system) but when I tried to register them in the CL squad they wouldn't count as HG. Both players are regens. I do however have another regen who counts as trained at club...and he can be registered. Weird and annoying. Has anyone had similar problems? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rice2cu Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 Anyone know what the situation is if you co-own a player? Is it only the club that the player plays for during the co-ownership period that builds up homegrown status, or do both / neither? I can't be certain but common sence would sugguest that if a player is trained by a club (Example - Arsenal) for 3 years before his 21st birthday, he will have the "Trained at Club" (Trained at Arsenal) tag even if he is co-owned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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