TigerJoe Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Alan Hansen a famous TV pundit once said "you can win nothing with kids". So far no-one has proved him wrong. Arsenal have come close but have lacked defensive solidity to win the title with there youth. West Ham, Everton and Tottenham as well as many other clubs have started to play young players, but so far no team has been successful enough to win the title. Can you change that? What is it? Basicially you start a normal game with Manchester City. You are only allowed to sign 19 year old and younger players. But you are allowed to keep the over aged players in the squad already. So the challenge is that you need to try and win the Premiership and turn your team into world beaters. This is not as easy as it seems. I'm sure many of you will be thinking "oh I'll just sign Asenjo, Zuclini, Sakho and Saivet and I'll easily complete the challenge. But the young players will take time to gell and in season 1 will these players be good enough to play against the likes of Drogba, Torres, Ferdinand and Fabregas?. So what do you do? Every season you will need to report back on signings, matches and end of season reports. You can do this quicker by using screenshots. If you don't know how to post screenshots this is how: Find the page you want to take a screenshot of Press print screen (prt sc) Load a program like paint Go onto the paint program and press ctrl+V Save the image Upload the image to a website such as photobucket Tips? I'd advise making individual training schedules for each player. This will help them improve more. Here is what to think about when making an indiviadual schedule: When making an individual schedule you have to look at a few things. First what position does the player play. You don't want to have a striker doing intensive defending training so take this into mind. Next on coach reports what is the players personality. This will affect how hard he will train. Next look at the players attributes, look at the players natural fitness. This will tell you how intensive his training should be. And look at his work rate and determination, this tells you how hard and well he will train. Next go onto his training screen. In the bottom left corner there will be a box with a number of blue bars in it. This tells you how much the player can improve in a certain area of training. If the bar is right at the bottom it means the player cannot get worse. If the bar is at the top it means the player cannot get better. Using the information you get from this determines how hard you want to train a player in a certain place. There is no point in training the player intensely in set pieces if he cannot improve there. Now with all this information making schedules for each player will be very rewarding. It may be time consuming but in the end the results will be great. If you are struggling finding good players check the GPTG forum http://community.sigames.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=21 If your having trouble with tactics check the Tactics forum http://community.sigames.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=18 Rules 1. You must load the English Premier League when you are choosing the leagues for your database. Any other leagues you want can be loaded. 2. Only players under 19 can be signed 3. Existing 20+ players DON'T have to be sold 4. There are no tutoring or downloading of other peoples tacicts rules. 5. When a player you've brought reaches the age of 22 he must be sold or released Now good luck and enjoy the challenge Important note This challenge is m1234566778 idea so all credit must go to him not me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamjerome Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 what do you mean no one has proved him wrong? manchester united did that very season.... ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJoe Posted May 25, 2009 Author Share Posted May 25, 2009 Did Man Utd play 16-19 year olds all through the season and win the title? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridleys Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Surely this would be easy after a few seasons? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mista T Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 No but tbf your not exactly old if you get into your twenties Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJoe Posted May 25, 2009 Author Share Posted May 25, 2009 Like I said it's M1234566778s idea. After a few seasons it may be easy but I think the whole point of the challenge is that you enjoy fullfilling the potential of the young players and dominating the world with a bunch of 18 year olds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeeman27bob Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Did Man Utd play 16-19 year olds all through the season and win the title? That's not what this challenge is though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJoe Posted May 25, 2009 Author Share Posted May 25, 2009 The challenge is to dominate the world with young players. Man Utd may have played home grown players but they weren't young Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeeman27bob Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 The challenge is to dominate the world with young players. Man Utd may have played home grown players but they weren't young Yes, but you're not going trying to win the league with people under the age of 20. That's simply the age limit of the signings. If you were trying to win the league with just u20's that would be a different challenge. Anyhow, will be interesting to see how things develop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJoe Posted May 25, 2009 Author Share Posted May 25, 2009 Yes, but you're not going trying to win the league with people under the age of 20. That's simply the age limit of the signings. If you were trying to win the league with just u20's that would be a different challenge.Anyhow, will be interesting to see how things develop. Would you like to give it a go? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeeman27bob Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Would be like to give it a go? That doesn't make any sense, but I presume you meant for "would you like to give it a go?". I would, but I don't have the time. The idea this thread is working off is a good one, and I'm not slating it in the slightest. I was just saying there's a difference between winning something with kids, and winning something with people who you've developed from kids, that's all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJoe Posted May 25, 2009 Author Share Posted May 25, 2009 It's ok I respect what you've said. Some of the stuff I don't understand fully as this is m1234566778s idea which he has asked me to make a thread about here and given me a briefing. But hopefully he'll come and clear some of this stuff up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Next go onto his training screen. In the bottom left corner there will be a box with a number of blue bars in it. This tells you how much the player can improve in a certain area of training. If the bar is right at the bottom it means the player cannot get worse. If the bar is at the top it means the player cannot get better. I'm personally not interested in this challenge because I've got too many things in my hand, but are you sure about the quoted part ? I always thought that the bar's height was directly proportional to how intense the player has trained in that category in the last month :confused: I'd be happy if someone cleared this issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 It's related to intensity of training iirc. So m123467898754321 has come up with an idea, but is afraid that people will roll their eyes if he's the one who posts it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeeman27bob Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 It's related to intensity of training iirc.So m123467898754321 has come up with an idea, but is afraid that people will roll their eyes if he's the one who posts it? He (mloadsofnumbers) posted it in the GPTG forum first, where a mod shut it and told him to post it here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamjerome Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Did Man Utd play 16-19 year olds all through the season and win the title? the original quote was "Alan Hansen a famous TV pundit once said "you can win nothing with kids". So far no-one has proved him wrong. Arsenal have come close but have lacked defensive solidity to win the title with there youth. West Ham, Everton and Tottenham as well as many other clubs have started to play young players, but so far no team has been successful enough to win the title." - do arsenal use 16-19s? do west ham? do everton? do spurs? do you see my point now? david beckham, paul scholes, the neville brothers etc were all 21 or under when hansen said that quote, by the way. giggs was still only 22. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisescummer Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Isn't this just a far easier version of steboyuk's challenge? http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=118032 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striker475 Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 I would have said Fergie's Fledgelings proved this idea wrong, but hey, whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1234566778 Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 You guys are even more synical than Simon Cowell! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 So do you have to win something while these players are all still under 19? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1234566778 Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 No. (101010) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJoe Posted May 26, 2009 Author Share Posted May 26, 2009 the original quote was "Alan Hansen a famous TV pundit once said "you can win nothing with kids". So far no-one has proved him wrong. Arsenal have come close but have lacked defensive solidity to win the title with there youth. West Ham, Everton and Tottenham as well as many other clubs have started to play young players, but so far no team has been successful enough to win the title." - do arsenal use 16-19s? do west ham? do everton? do spurs? do you see my point now? david beckham, paul scholes, the neville brothers etc were all 21 or under when hansen said that quote, by the way. giggs was still only 22. Someone agrees with me at last No.(101010) Would you like me to edit anything out or put something else in the opener which I've not included? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Even if you sign them under the age of 19, you might not win anything until they are all in their thirties! Just a suggestion, but I reckon this needs a little more thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJoe Posted May 26, 2009 Author Share Posted May 26, 2009 If you are a good manager I reckon you would be able to win the Prem in the third season with the young players. It's not that hard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 But even by the 3rd season some of these 'kids' will be in their twenties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1234566778 Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Well, should we say that once the players reach 21/22 they need to be sold. Good work on thread TigerJoe!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJoe Posted May 26, 2009 Author Share Posted May 26, 2009 Your not old when your 20 so 20 year olds even 21 would probably be fine. But you'll have to check that with m1234566778. EDIT: Just been cleared up whilst I posted and thanks m1234566778. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 So they'd be the same as the Man Utd team that won it the season Hansen made that comment (specifically about that United team)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJoe Posted May 27, 2009 Author Share Posted May 27, 2009 The players in that Man United team weren't all under 21 years old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 And they won't be in this challenge if you follow the "rules". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJoe Posted May 27, 2009 Author Share Posted May 27, 2009 Yes I never said they would. They're all over 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Thing is, Hansen didn't mean a full team, he meant a large section of it (and a large section of that team were kids). But why is everybody getting caught up in the semantics of the quote? Discuss the challenge, sure, but why go into this much hassle about the poorly researched foundations of it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 I'm trying to get some details of restrictions for the challenge, but unfortunately seems to be a bit vague. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJoe Posted May 28, 2009 Author Share Posted May 28, 2009 The challenge is to only buy players under the age of 19 and you have to sell them at the age of 22 and you need to try and make your team world beaters . For any further information check the opener or ask m1234566778 because it's his idea and he knows/makes the rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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