uppercut Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 im currently hull, midtable (9th) and have a tiny chance of getting to one of the uefa cup qualifying places come end of season, however i am in the final of the carling cup. i had a look at the rules and the winner qualifies for the uefa cup.. im getting ahead of myself a bit, but the team im playing in the final is liverpool so they're expected to finish get a CL place (currently they're 4th). if i get beaten, will i qualify for europe next season assuming liverpool finish in a uefa cup or higher place? or will their uefa cup place based on their league finish place get moved to the team below them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenArsenal Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Losers of the Carling Cup final do not qualify for Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
damienroden Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Used to be this way in FA cup, but now it isn't. Goes to the next placed league team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uppercut Posted February 6, 2009 Author Share Posted February 6, 2009 ..crap! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Used to be this way in FA cup, but now it isn't. Goes to the next placed league team. It is still this way in the FA Cup, is it not? Like has already been said though, you wont get into the UEFA Cup if you lose in the Carling Cup final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenArsenal Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Used to be this way in FA cup, but now it isn't. Goes to the next placed league team. It still happens in the FA Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomis07 Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Like has already been said though, you wont get into the UEFA Cup if you lose in the Carling Cup final. Fantastic news, no Spurs in Europe next season then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frame Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 It still happens in the FA Cup. Not in real life. I don't know how it is in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby_McDonald Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 This crops up every year, both in this forum and in the national media if one of the big four is in the final. Do some people pay no attention to what goes on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndebergerac Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 The runner up rule was scrapped as of this season. Only the winner now qualifies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmarsha_926 Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Only the winners of both compititions qualify for the UEFA Europa League this is because FIFA changed the requirements for this runners-up rule. Beginning with the UEFA Europa League, the UEFA Cup place will be given to the highest finishing Premier League team that has not qualified for European competition if the winner of the FA Cup has already qualified. It is the same for the Carling Cup. Winners of Carling Cup 2008–09 - Participate in the UEFA Europa League 3rd Qualifying Round Winners of FA Cup 2008–09 - Participate in the play off round with the 35 winners from previous round along with 15 losers from the UEFA Champions League 2009-10 3rd qualifying round 5th placed team of Premier League 2008–09 - Also Participates in the play off round with the 35 winners from previous round along with 15 losers from the UEFA Champions League 2009-10 3rd qualifying round The Groups stages will consist of The UEFA Cup Defending champions 10 losers from the UEFA Champions League 2009–10 play-off round 37 winners from the play-off round Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mista T Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Fantastic news, no Spurs in Europe next season then wouldn't be so sure if I were you. Not only did chelsea literally "throw" it away last year, but the league is so congested right now noone knows how it's gonna end up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomtuck01 Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 wouldn't be so sure if I were you. Not only did chelsea literally "throw" it away last year, but the league is so congested right now noone knows how it's gonna end up. So you think Spures can win the Carling cup, or finish in the top 6 do you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
baker.simon Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 So you think Spures can win the Carling cup, or finish in the top 6 do you? Newcastle did it a few seasons ago, and the league wasnt as congested in that season! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndebergerac Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 So you think Spures can win the Carling cup, or finish in the top 6 do you? They're in the cup final right? I'd say they can win it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenArsenal Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Only the winners of both compititions qualify for the UEFA Europa League this is because FIFA changed the requirements for this runners-up rule. Beginning with the UEFA Europa League, the UEFA Cup place will be given to the highest finishing Premier League team that has not qualified for European competition if the winner of the FA Cup has already qualified. It is the same for the Carling Cup.Winners of Carling Cup 2008–09 - Participate in the UEFA Europa League 3rd Qualifying Round Winners of FA Cup 2008–09 - Participate in the play off round with the 35 winners from previous round along with 15 losers from the UEFA Champions League 2009-10 3rd qualifying round 5th placed team of Premier League 2008–09 - Also Participates in the play off round with the 35 winners from previous round along with 15 losers from the UEFA Champions League 2009-10 3rd qualifying round The Groups stages will consist of The UEFA Cup Defending champions 10 losers from the UEFA Champions League 2009–10 play-off round 37 winners from the play-off round Bollix. No more West Ham or Millwall or Southampton in the UEFA Cup then. Shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenArsenal Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 One more thing. UEFA never actually addresses the issue of the UEFA Cup holders qualifying for the Champions League. Who takes their place then? In the past it simply went to the next best team in the winner's league. But now that 5th place team (or similar) have to play in the 'playoffs', would be a bit unfair for a team to jump straight into the group stage just because the winners aren't in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlaw640 Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Isn't it going through the sporting play draw? I won the Uefa cup then qualified for the CL through the league and my spot was given to 13th reading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenArsenal Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Isn't it going through the sporting play draw? I won the Uefa cup then qualified for the CL through the league and my spot was given to 13th reading. Well if that is so then UEFA should be more clear about their rules. Currently they're so confusing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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