New Laptop/PC- Help Needed

[Transk53]

Hi fellow members. Those of you that have a current budget ready to go, now would be a good time to peruse the online retailers, and even direct to consumer sites as well. Now the 8th Gen Coffee Lakes are already starting to seem ubiquitous, so the retailers are now offering deals (well I checked two third party and a direct sales sites) One was pretty much slashing a hundred quid of over the ranges, and also some competitive prices on those lappies with nVidia G-Sync screens.

 

if you want something future proofed in terms of overall performance, value for money, I would wait a little longer. If you just want a FM lappy, now would be the time to get a bargain 7th Gen machine.

[Andy1979]

Dell Latitude E7440 Laptop

 

Intel Core i5-4130U @ 2.6GHz CPU

8GB DDR3 RAM

256GB SSD Solid State Hard Drive

Windows 10 Professional 

Will that be anyhoo for fm? 

I only have the 4 main leagues in Europe and England down to North and South blue square.

[Transk53]

Done a cursory search and it seems to meet the minimum requirements. You would be better off with 4Gbytes of DDR4 over DDR3. What’s your budget?

[Blackthorn]

Hi everyone, looking for some direction. Having been out of the pc gaming world for awhile playing the touch version last 3 instalments.

The kids are starting to get older and school work will most definitely arrive, I am looking to get back into the full fat version of FM since a desktop will be needed in the house. I am looking for more of an entry level pc which I could upgrade has funds permit. I have around £350 available.

When I look at graphics etc. I don't know if what I am looking for is above minimum specs or below.

Thanks for any help in this quest.

Blackthorn

[midori]

18 hours ago, Transk53 said:

Hi fellow members. Those of you that have a current budget ready to go, now would be a good time to peruse the online retailers, and even direct to consumer sites as well. Now the 8th Gen Coffee Lakes are already starting to seem ubiquitous, so the retailers are now offering deals (well I checked two third party and a direct sales sites) One was pretty much slashing a hundred quid of over the ranges, and also some competitive prices on those lappies with nVidia G-Sync screens.

 

if you want something future proofed in terms of overall performance, value for money, I would wait a little longer. If you just want a FM lappy, now would be the time to get a bargain 7th Gen machine.

Any recommendations? I've got a budget of about £1000 for a new laptop, looking to get the most out of FM as I can. Would like something that will last me 4-5 years.

[Transk53]

3 hours ago, midori said:

Any recommendations? I've got a budget of about £1000 for a new laptop, looking to get the most out of FM as I can. Would like something that will last me 4-5 years.

Not any particular recommendation, but if you have a look at these as a guide. The two HP Omens at the bottom are generally good machines. HP offer a good balance between components and reliability. The first MSI machine down the list also looks attractive between the i5, Gfx and system ram. The Gigabyte Aero machines have a very good rep, although no one here. Asus machines are very good, but maybe a little higher up the budget tree. One thing I would say, try and get one that has 7200RPM hard drive rather than one at 5400. Can’t really comment on the SSD aspect at the mo because I am not sure of the relationship between them and the game.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/gaming-laptops/finder/up-to-1000-pounds

 

[Durham Hatter]

I'm looking for a laptop to run primarily English/UK based leagues.

I'm not bothered about the 3D engine so graphics aren't a huge concern.

I found this, which seems to have a good processor, RAM, etc but the price looks too good to be true.

Is there something glaringly wrong with this that I'm overlooking?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MHK-International-Co-Limited-0016J3-SKU4/dp/B0162V3IVI/ref=sr_1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1524340252&sr=1-4&refinements=p_n_style_browse-bin%3A182753031%2Cp_n_feature_fifteen_browse-bin%3A8322531031%2Cp_n_feature_browse-bin%3A1481781031%2Cp_n_pattern_browse-bin%3A937175031&dpID=41snbCPExqL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

 

Although I'm not on a "budget", I'm trying to spend the least amount possible as this laptop would only ever be used for FM.

Thanks.

[Transk53]

1 hour ago, Durham Hatter said:

I'm looking for a laptop to run primarily English/UK based leagues.

I'm not bothered about the 3D engine so graphics aren't a huge concern.

I found this, which seems to have a good processor, RAM, etc but the price looks too good to be true.

Is there something glaringly wrong with this that I'm overlooking?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MHK-International-Co-Limited-0016J3-SKU4/dp/B0162V3IVI/ref=sr_1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1524340252&sr=1-4&refinements=p_n_style_browse-bin%3A182753031%2Cp_n_feature_fifteen_browse-bin%3A8322531031%2Cp_n_feature_browse-bin%3A1481781031%2Cp_n_pattern_browse-bin%3A937175031&dpID=41snbCPExqL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

 

Although I'm not on a "budget", I'm trying to spend the least amount possible as this laptop would only ever be used for FM.

Thanks.

Yes, doesn’t have a windows or Linux OS. What would you not be bothered about having, no SSD or dedicated Gfx for example?

[Smurf]

On 20/04/2018 at 20:28, Andy1979 said:

Dell Latitude E7440 Laptop

 

Intel Core i5-4130U @ 2.6GHz CPU

8GB DDR3 RAM

256GB SSD Solid State Hard Drive

Windows 10 Professional 

Will that be anyhoo for fm? 

I only have the 4 main leagues in Europe and England down to North and South blue square.

This won't be good enough

18 hours ago, Blackthorn said:

Hi everyone, looking for some direction. Having been out of the pc gaming world for awhile playing the touch version last 3 instalments.

The kids are starting to get older and school work will most definitely arrive, I am looking to get back into the full fat version of FM since a desktop will be needed in the house. I am looking for more of an entry level pc which I could upgrade has funds permit. I have around £350 available.

When I look at graphics etc. I don't know if what I am looking for is above minimum specs or below.

Thanks for any help in this quest.

Blackthorn

350 is too low a budget. I've looked before. If you go second hand you may get something.

But initial feeling is to up your budget.

17 hours ago, midori said:

Any recommendations? I've got a budget of about £1000 for a new laptop, looking to get the most out of FM as I can. Would like something that will last me 4-5 years.

Chassis & Display
Optimus Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD IPS LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor 7700HQ (2.8GHz, 3.8GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 Ti - 4.0GB GDDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1^st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB WD Black™ M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 2050MB/s R | 800MB/s W)

Price £1,033.00 including VAT and delivery

Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/optimusviii-15/A5yxEsNfFw/

Something like that although I forgot to add the thermal paste...

You could revert to 8gb ram...but I prefer 16 these days.

It's a 15 inch of you prefer a 17 inch let me know.

11 hours ago, Durham Hatter said:

I'm looking for a laptop to run primarily English/UK based leagues.

I'm not bothered about the 3D engine so graphics aren't a huge concern.

I found this, which seems to have a good processor, RAM, etc but the price looks too good to be true.

Is there something glaringly wrong with this that I'm overlooking?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MHK-International-Co-Limited-0016J3-SKU4/dp/B0162V3IVI/ref=sr_1_4?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1524340252&sr=1-4&refinements=p_n_style_browse-bin%3A182753031%2Cp_n_feature_fifteen_browse-bin%3A8322531031%2Cp_n_feature_browse-bin%3A1481781031%2Cp_n_pattern_browse-bin%3A937175031&dpID=41snbCPExqL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

 

Although I'm not on a "budget", I'm trying to spend the least amount possible as this laptop would only ever be used for FM.

Thanks.

Same concern that it had no os. However if you have a tech friend or someone you work with that has a bit of tech you can get Linux for free and install it.

It would work for FM.

[Durham Hatter]

2 hours ago, Smurf said:

Same concern that it had no os. However if you have a tech friend or someone you work with that has a bit of tech you can get Linux for free and install it.

It would work for FM.

I haven't bought a PC or Laptop for 12 years so this is all painfully space-age to me!

Although I do have a "helpful" friend who could probably help with the OS I had a quick look and found this.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0171C3H1I/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ACUH82GJ4FHI1&psc=1

This seems to be the same/similar but has the OS.

 

[Transk53]

@Smurf Not sure about the PC Specalist machines now. They come with a Clevo mainboard which in the past has given me no end of problems. Think for the lower end they are probably fine, but not specing decent thermal paste like artic pro or the cooler master as standard, makes me wary. Good that you pointed that out above, can’t believe they would ship out a decent CPU without it as standard. Not sure I want to part with and give over two grand to them now mind. Scan do some very good systems btw. You can partially spec them as well depending on the range.

[Transk53]

1 hour ago, Durham Hatter said:

I haven't bought a PC or Laptop for 12 years so this is all painfully space-age to me!

Although I do have a "helpful" friend who could probably help with the OS I had a quick look and found this.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0171C3H1I/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ACUH82GJ4FHI1&psc=1

This seems to be the same/similar but has the OS.

 

Linux these days is a lot more user friendly than it was, but if you have no experience of that environment, I would recommend you stick to a MS W10 Make sure it is 64bit though, if 32bit is still available retail which I don’t think it is.

[Blackthorn]

@Smurf Thanks for getting back to me. How much do you think I need to up my budget by?

[Smurf]

You can get decent laptop for FM for the cheapest I saw was 579.

[Durham Hatter]

OK, I've reviewed my budget and feel I can go to £1000 for something idiot and future proof.

I've seen this. Any good or is there better out there?

This is £650.00

 

 

[Transk53]

46 minutes ago, Durham Hatter said:

OK, I've reviewed my budget and feel I can go to £1000 for something idiot and future proof.

I've seen this. Any good or is there better out there?

This is £650.00

 

 

Looks good enough on paper yes. Would have liked a faster hard drive personally, but no not sure on the base frequency. Only clocked at 1.8Ghz, but not sure if the turbo frequency will compensate for that in game. Minimum specs do say 2.0Ghz. It will still run though, but probably quite slow.

[Andy1979]

On 22/04/2018 at 08:20, Smurf said:

This won't be good enough

350 is too low a budget. I've looked before. If you go second hand you may get something.

But initial feeling is to up your budget.

Chassis & Display
Optimus Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD IPS LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Quad Core Processor 7700HQ (2.8GHz, 3.8GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1050 Ti - 4.0GB GDDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1^st M.2 SSD Drive
512GB WD Black™ M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 2050MB/s R | 800MB/s W)

Price £1,033.00 including VAT and delivery

Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/optimusviii-15/A5yxEsNfFw/

Something like that although I forgot to add the thermal paste...

You could revert to 8gb ram...but I prefer 16 these days.

It's a 15 inch of you prefer a 17 inch let me know.

Same concern that it had no os. However if you have a tech friend or someone you work with that has a bit of tech you can get Linux for free and install it.

It would work for FM.

I had a i3 that played fm16. What's wrong with those specs? Not got a clue about computers.

[Durham Hatter]

1 hour ago, Transk53 said:

Looks good enough on paper yes. Would have liked a faster hard drive personally, but no not sure on the base frequency. Only clocked at 1.8Ghz, but not sure if the turbo frequency will compensate for that in game. Minimum specs do say 2.0Ghz. It will still run though, but probably quite slow.

That's my issue. I think I know what I'm looking for but the end result seems to be "Hmmmm.."

I wasn't looking for "quite slow" with this laptop.

I'm hoping for "fast enough for now and a few games into the future!"

[Transk53]

17 minutes ago, Durham Hatter said:

That's my issue. I think I know what I'm looking for but the end result seems to be "Hmmmm.."

I'm not looking for "quite slow" with this laptop.

I'm hoping for "fast enough for now and a few games into the future!"

Yeah. That’s the problem with laptops, and basically why I am going to have to spend big money for what I want. Really even gaming laptops can still struggle with a few games due to various different reasons. Fast enough for now is fine with a desktop and a upgrade path, but with a laptop it is bit more difficult. Hence you have to be very specific to your needs. If you want something that will play a decent avarage Frame Per Second (the games like Witcher 3/Destiny etc) in the future, you will have to part with a fair wedge of cash for a laptop at least.

[Durham Hatter]

I don't really have an interest in playing any other game apart from FM18 (& 19,20 etc)

If a Laptop can run that well, I'm happy.

[Transk53]

6 minutes ago, Durham Hatter said:

I don't really have an interest in playing any other game apart from FM18 (& 19,20 etc)

If a Laptop can run that well, I'm happy.

Do you have a preference for the size of the screen. 15 or 17inch?

[Durham Hatter]

2 minutes ago, Transk53 said:

Do you have a preference for the size of the screen. 15 or 17inch?

I'd like a 17" but I'm not particularly bothered.

I sit in front of a 13" Macbook Air all day at work, so either would be bigger!

[Transk53]

4 minutes ago, Durham Hatter said:

I'd like a 17" but I'm not particularly bothered.

I sit in front of a 13" Macbook Air all day at work, so either would be bigger!

Okay. One more thing, are playing FM off Steam?, or would you require a DVD/Blu-ray drive?

[Durham Hatter]

Right now, I'm playing on an ipad. (So neither)

 

When I get the laptop, I'm happy to use steam or a DVD drive.

I certainly wouldn't "need" a DVD drive though, beyond FM.

 

[Transk53]

28 minutes ago, Durham Hatter said:

Right now, I'm playing on an ipad. (So neither)

 

When I get the laptop, I'm happy to use steam or a DVD drive.

I certainly wouldn't "need" a DVD drive though, beyond FM.

 

These are just a guide rather than a straight recommendation to illustrate what you can get.

The Dell from PC World is actually quite well balanced with components. Maybe a little pricey.

https://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/dell-inspiron-5000-15-6-gaming-laptop-10164853-pdt.html

The MSI maybe not as balanced components wise, but better graphics card albeit with 3gigs of VRAM, but a lot better quality than the Dell. 

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/msi-gp62mvr-7rfx-core-i7-7700hq-8gb-1tb-128gb-ssd-15.6-inch-geforce-gtx-1-9s7-16jb92-880/version.asp

As I say just a guide on what you can get.

[Durham Hatter]

32 minutes ago, Transk53 said:

These are just a guide rather than a straight recommendation to illustrate what you can get.

The Dell from PC World is actually quite well balanced with components. Maybe a little pricey.

https://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/dell-inspiron-5000-15-6-gaming-laptop-10164853-pdt.html

The MSI maybe not as balanced components wise, but better graphics card albeit with 3gigs of VRAM, but a lot better quality than the Dell. 

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/msi-gp62mvr-7rfx-core-i7-7700hq-8gb-1tb-128gb-ssd-15.6-inch-geforce-gtx-1-9s7-16jb92-880/version.asp

As I say just a guide on what you can get.

I appreciate the advice. 

The prices look fine.  They both look good, esp the MSI.

Edit: Don't worry, if I buy one I won't be returning to blame you!

 

I have found this, using the specs from the MSI one you posted. Not sure why it's so much cheaper. (Obviously, I've missed something!)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GE72-2QDi716H11-5700HQ-Windows/dp/B012RIXMV6/ref=sr_1_7?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1524517116&sr=1-7&keywords=laptop&refinements=p_n_pattern_browse-bin%3A937175031%2Cp_n_feature_fifteen_browse-bin%3A8322531031%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_browse-bin%3A2989741031%2Cp_n_feature_eleven_browse-bin%3A7472680031%2Cp_n_feature_three_browse-bin%3A213559031%2Cp_n_feature_seven_browse-bin%3A8322553031%2Cp_n_feature_thirteen_browse-bin%3A8322538031%2Cp_n_feature_browse-bin%3A1481783031

[Transk53]

11 hours ago, Durham Hatter said:

I appreciate the advice. 

The prices look fine.  They both look good, esp the MSI.

Edit: Don't worry, if I buy one I won't be returning to blame you!

 

I have found this, using the specs from the MSI one you posted. Not sure why it's so much cheaper. (Obviously, I've missed something!)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GE72-2QDi716H11-5700HQ-Windows/dp/B012RIXMV6/ref=sr_1_7?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1524517116&sr=1-7&keywords=laptop&refinements=p_n_pattern_browse-bin%3A937175031%2Cp_n_feature_fifteen_browse-bin%3A8322531031%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_browse-bin%3A2989741031%2Cp_n_feature_eleven_browse-bin%3A7472680031%2Cp_n_feature_three_browse-bin%3A213559031%2Cp_n_feature_seven_browse-bin%3A8322553031%2Cp_n_feature_thirteen_browse-bin%3A8322538031%2Cp_n_feature_browse-bin%3A1481783031

It is saying out of stock. Probably cheaper because it comes with a GTX960m which is entry level in terms of the GPU.

[Andrew_Goats_Gruff]

23 minutes ago, Transk53 said:

It is saying out of stock. Probably cheaper because it comes with a GTX960m which is entry level in terms of the GPU.

Doesn’t matter how good your laptop, you’ll have big fm issues. My laptops £750 and this issue I get makes me not play the game.

It’s been under review for months on end and leta face it, it wont be fixed

 

[Smurf]

14 hours ago, Andy1979 said:

I had a i3 that played fm16. What's wrong with those specs? Not got a clue about computers.

You may have had a good experience with an i3 - but everyone plays the game differently - some play with 5 leagues loaded and play 10 year career and restart the saved game.

Some play 5 leauges and play a 100 year career. 

Some play 20 leauges and 5 seasons - and some play 50 leauges and 100 years.

The thing is - the more leauges you load, and the longer you play the more processing power is required. 

And with your i3  you may have been content with the game progressing at that speed. 

But 5 seconds is a short time for some people and it's a long time for some people. 

And 20 seconds or 40 seconds the same. 

 

11 hours ago, Durham Hatter said:

I appreciate the advice. 

The prices look fine.  They both look good, esp the MSI.

Edit: Don't worry, if I buy one I won't be returning to blame you!

 

I have found this, using the specs from the MSI one you posted. Not sure why it's so much cheaper. (Obviously, I've missed something!)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GE72-2QDi716H11-5700HQ-Windows/dp/B012RIXMV6/ref=sr_1_7?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1524517116&sr=1-7&keywords=laptop&refinements=p_n_pattern_browse-bin%3A937175031%2Cp_n_feature_fifteen_browse-bin%3A8322531031%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_browse-bin%3A2989741031%2Cp_n_feature_eleven_browse-bin%3A7472680031%2Cp_n_feature_three_browse-bin%3A213559031%2Cp_n_feature_seven_browse-bin%3A8322553031%2Cp_n_feature_thirteen_browse-bin%3A8322538031%2Cp_n_feature_browse-bin%3A1481783031

This is what I have come up with also

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-1799E5-1225-MSI-GL72M-7REX-1225UK_2206597.html

 

 

[Transk53]

3 hours ago, Andrew_Goats_Gruff said:

Doesn’t matter how good your laptop, you’ll have big fm issues. My laptops £750 and this issue I get makes me not play the game.

It’s been under review for months on end and leta face it, it wont be fixed

 

If there is a inherent issue with the ME, then it is unlikely that until FM 19 arrives, then no wholesale changes will be made. Some things just can’t be done via patch’s. 

I haven’t looked into this, but it could be something particular to the machine you own for example. A particular make, a particular component etc.

[Smurf]

5 hours ago, Andrew_Goats_Gruff said:

Doesn’t matter how good your laptop, you’ll have big fm issues. My laptops £750 and this issue I get makes me not play the game.

It’s been under review for months on end and leta face it, it wont be fixed

 

From reading your DX DIAG - you have a i5-650 CPU.

It came out in 2010 and was discontinued - so there is no support for it.

Your processor is 8 years old and likely to struggle with a processor intensive game like FM. 

 

[Andy1979]

Windows 10 Professional x64

Display

14" HD+ Matte Screen -- 1600x900 @ 60Hz

Integrated Webcam and microphones

CPU

Intel Core i5-3230M @ 2.6GHz to 3.2GHz

GPU

Integrated Intel HD Graphics 4000

NVIDIA NVS 5200M

RAM

4GB @ 1600Mhz  PC3-12800 DDR3L

Storage

128GB SSD SATA-III

Connectivity

Bluetooth (PAN)

Gigabyte Ethernet (LAN)

Wireless 802.11 Wifi (WLAN)

Audio

Integrated Stereo Speakers

Microphone input /Headphone output combo port

Ports

2x USB 3.0 (1x Powershare)

2x USB2 (1x eSATA untested)

1xRJ45 (Network)

1xRJ11 (Modem, old school, untested)

HDMI output graphics

VGA output graphics

Media

SD Card

DVD+- RW

Power

GENUINE DELL AC Adapter with power cord 

GENUINE DELL BATTERY in Excellent Condition

 

[Andy1979]

Would that be anygood? It's £220  on eBay refurb. But I got a job today so may wait and up my budget and get a better deal top. I would be playing fm16 to start as I have that in my steam account.  I only load England Spain German Italy .

 

[Smurf]

The processor is 5 years old.

Safe to say it's entering the latter stages of end of life. 

Defo best to up your budget. Roughly 600 would do it. 

[Durham Hatter]

I've been offered this DELL Inspiron 7579, 17" screen for £650.

Deal or no deal?

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GE73-7RD-Raider-007UK-17-3-Inch/dp/B075CG9PHZ/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1524576221&sr=1-1&keywords=msi&refinements=p_n_feature_browse-bin%3A1481783031%2Cp_n_pattern_browse-bin%3A937175031%2Cp_n_feature_thirteen_browse-bin%3A8322539031%2Cp_n_feature_three_browse-bin%3A213559031%2Cp_n_feature_fifteen_browse-bin%3A8322531031

If this is no good, then I'm giving up looking.

A little over my budget but seems to be good.

Or is the other one better value for money?

**can you tell I know little**

[Transk53]

1 hour ago, Durham Hatter said:

I've been offered this DELL Inspiron 7579, 17" screen for £650.

Deal or no deal?

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GE73-7RD-Raider-007UK-17-3-Inch/dp/B075CG9PHZ/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1524576221&sr=1-1&keywords=msi&refinements=p_n_feature_browse-bin%3A1481783031%2Cp_n_pattern_browse-bin%3A937175031%2Cp_n_feature_thirteen_browse-bin%3A8322539031%2Cp_n_feature_three_browse-bin%3A213559031%2Cp_n_feature_fifteen_browse-bin%3A8322531031

If this is no good, then I'm giving up looking.

A little over my budget but seems to be good.

Or is the other one better value for money?

**can you tell I know little**

I wouldn’t recommend a Dell to anybody. The MSI looks pretty good yeah. The 1050ti should allow high quality graphics in games to. Probably not going to find much better up the tech tree for you’re budget 👍

[Durham Hatter]

48 minutes ago, Transk53 said:

I wouldn’t recommend a Dell to anybody. The MSI looks pretty good yeah. The 1050ti should allow high quality graphics in games to. Probably not going to find much better up the tech tree for you’re budget 👍

Thanks for the feedback.

I'm finally getting there

 

[Andrew_Goats_Gruff]

5 hours ago, Transk53 said:

If there is a inherent issue with the ME, then it is unlikely that until FM 19 arrives, then no wholesale changes will be made. Some things just can’t be done via patch’s. 

I haven’t looked into this, but it could be something particular to the machine you own for example. A particular make, a particular component etc.

My laptop is brand new, 2016 release I believe, dell inspiron 15 - 7000 gaming series.

2.5ghz ~ 3.5ghz turbo boost quad core

4gb Nvidia 1050

8gb ram

244gb SSD

 

It’s a known lag issue of which SI have been investigating since November I believe. Not trying to put you off getting one, just saying you can spend £1,000 and will STILL experience the in game match engine glitching eether you play on low or high settings, they or anybody else can’t work out the problem.

 

I love FM but it’s unplayable, I believe it’s an Nvidia thing.

[Transk53]

9 minutes ago, Andrew_Goats_Gruff said:

My laptop is brand new, 2016 release I believe, dell inspiron 15 - 7000 gaming series.

2.5ghz ~ 3.5ghz turbo boost quad core

4gb Nvidia 1050

8gb ram

244gb SSD

 

It’s a known lag issue of which SI have been investigating since November I believe. Not trying to put you off getting one, just saying you can spend £1,000 and will STILL experience the in game match engine glitching eether you play on low or high settings, they or anybody else can’t work out the problem.

 

I love FM but it’s unplayable, I believe it’s an Nvidia thing.

Yes funny you should say that. I have been browsing the nVidia forums. Especially the games and driver ones. It seems that there are quite a few game lockup’s on laptops and rigs running high end cards. From I have been reading there and elsewhere, it may have something to with nVidia patching security wise due to the way cards interact with Windows. All to with the Spectre issue with chips. 

[Smurf]

14 hours ago, Durham Hatter said:

I've been offered this DELL Inspiron 7579, 17" screen for £650.

Deal or no deal?

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-GE73-7RD-Raider-007UK-17-3-Inch/dp/B075CG9PHZ/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1524576221&sr=1-1&keywords=msi&refinements=p_n_feature_browse-bin%3A1481783031%2Cp_n_pattern_browse-bin%3A937175031%2Cp_n_feature_thirteen_browse-bin%3A8322539031%2Cp_n_feature_three_browse-bin%3A213559031%2Cp_n_feature_fifteen_browse-bin%3A8322531031

If this is no good, then I'm giving up looking.

A little over my budget but seems to be good.

Or is the other one better value for money?

**can you tell I know little**

Well it seems to  be a desktop - and it's quite good. 

No graphics card - you may be able to put in a graphics card - hard to tell from those specs.

 

13 hours ago, Transk53 said:

I wouldn’t recommend a Dell to anybody. The MSI looks pretty good yeah. The 1050ti should allow high quality graphics in games to. Probably not going to find much better up the tech tree for you’re budget 👍

Nothing wrong with Dell either, fine makers of computers, my last 2 laptops are Dell and 1 is nine years old and works great still, and the other is 5 years old and also still works great. 

12 hours ago, Durham Hatter said:

Thanks for the feedback.

I'm finally getting there

 

What is your exact budget and what do you want from a computer and from FM?

11 hours ago, Andrew_Goats_Gruff said:

My laptop is brand new, 2016 release I believe, dell inspiron 15 - 7000 gaming series.

2.5ghz ~ 3.5ghz turbo boost quad core

4gb Nvidia 1050

8gb ram

244gb SSD

 

It’s a known lag issue of which SI have been investigating since November I believe. Not trying to put you off getting one, just saying you can spend £1,000 and will STILL experience the in game match engine glitching eether you play on low or high settings, they or anybody else can’t work out the problem.

 

I love FM but it’s unplayable, I believe it’s an Nvidia thing.

Get on to Nvidea web chat - they are always very helpful with me - I had an issue with LA Noire running on my i7 laptop with 8gb RAM and a high end graphics card - nothing but lag. 

They sent me the correct driver for the game - and never had an issue again.

 

[Andrew_Goats_Gruff]

2 hours ago, Smurf said:

 

Get on to Nvidea web chat - they are always very helpful with me - I had an issue with LA Noire running on my i7 laptop with 8gb RAM and a high end graphics card - nothing but lag. 

They sent me the correct driver for the game - and never had an issue again.

 

What driver version do you use for Nvidia?

 

Mine is 391.35

Also I take it fm is smooth for you then? 

 

Nvidia live chat isn’t connecting

[Transk53]

3 hours ago, Smurf said:

Nothing wrong with Dell either, fine makers of computers, my last 2 laptops are Dell and 1 is nine years old and works great still, and the other is 5 years old and also still works great. 

 

Oh yes. If you want something of average quality and being competitively priced, then Dell and others will do the job and work fine.

[Smurf]

1 hour ago, Transk53 said:

Oh yes. If you want something of average quality and being competitively priced, then Dell and others will do the job and work fine.

I know it's best to go custom build and pick parts yourself. 

However, a lot of people come here looking for something within a budget. Even £1000 is a bit of an ask for a high-end machine that is not custom built. 

That's why when looking I would look at Dell, HP, Lenovo, MSI, Asus, Acer etc. as viable solutions. Unless you're willing to spend £1500 or more, then we just have to rely on searches within sites to pull up the best.

The make of the computer is almost secondary to the Specs of the machine.

 

For FM for people, I look for the "HQ" processor, at least 8gb RAM (I prefer 16 but it's not essential), and a decent graphics card (if they want to play 3D - typically though you can't get a HQ processor without a decent graphics card anyway).

It's difficult working within people's budgets - but I did have horrible experiences with HP - yet I would still recommend those laptops. Similarly, I had an issue with Vodafone in Ireland, and I would never use them again, doesn't mean it isn't the correct company for someone else to use.

Dell are fine built, all our office computers are Dell - and they all work very well. 

 

[Transk53]

48 minutes ago, Smurf said:

I know it's best to go custom build and pick parts yourself. 

However, a lot of people come here looking for something within a budget. Even £1000 is a bit of an ask for a high-end machine that is not custom built. 

That's why when looking I would look at Dell, HP, Lenovo, MSI, Asus, Acer etc. as viable solutions. Unless you're willing to spend £1500 or more, then we just have to rely on searches within sites to pull up the best.

The make of the computer is almost secondary to the Specs of the machine.

 

For FM for people, I look for the "HQ" processor, at least 8gb RAM (I prefer 16 but it's not essential), and a decent graphics card (if they want to play 3D - typically though you can't get a HQ processor without a decent graphics card anyway).

It's difficult working within people's budgets - but I did have horrible experiences with HP - yet I would still recommend those laptops. Similarly, I had an issue with Vodafone in Ireland, and I would never use them again, doesn't mean it isn't the correct company for someone else to use.

Dell are fine built, all our office computers are Dell - and they all work very well. 

 

Yes agree,

it is very difficult to spec something these days without having to sacrifice something. If I had the room at home, I wouldn't be bothering with a lappy, just build myself a new rig. Of course though, even one on air with a standard aftermarket HSF will still be what, 40 - 50 quid still. Anyway yes I do agree, but I hold off from absolute recommendations just in case of any comeback. Yes I have been there, "you told me this, or "you never told me it wouldn't make my breakfast" kind of thing. Our office have got Dells as well, with the case on and working, with the case off and not working, a proverbial pain in the wotsit. So I can only go so far with "The make of the computer is almost secondary to the Specs of the machine."

[Smurf]

Yes, I agree. I will give absolute recommendations though, as far as what's the best they can get for the budget they have.

It's been so good so far, kinda thing. I don't recall a single person coming back with a complaint  (touch wood)

All I try to do is steer them away from the processors not up to the task of FM, and within their budget. I only hold off on the recommendation if there's nothing good enough within their specified budget.

[Ames]

How would this computer handle fm18:

http://www.elgreen.se/sv/rekonditionerade-asus/asus-fx553ve-dm131t.html

Would 8gb be sufficient in this case?

[Transk53]

37 minutes ago, Ames said:

How would this computer handle fm18:

http://www.elgreen.se/sv/rekonditionerade-asus/asus-fx553ve-dm131t.html

Would 8gb be sufficient in this case?

Yes looks like a good machine and 8 gigs should be fine. A 1050ti is a bit souped up, but a 1060 would be more desirable with nearly half more stream processors, the things that make it go zoom. Asus are fine built machines, but being reconditioned I would check on what warranty they are giving and more importantly, what support the retailer gives you if something goes wrong IMHO.

[Ames]

10 minutes ago, Transk53 said:

Yes looks like a good machine and 8 gigs should be fine. A 1050ti is a bit souped up, but a 1060 would be more desirable with nearly half more stream processors, the things that make it go zoom. Asus are fine built machines, but being reconditioned I would check on what warranty they are giving and more importantly, what support the retailer gives you if something goes wrong IMHO.

Thanks. I have purchased from them before and it has worked well. I guess this one is the better option despite a slightly older chip:

http://www.elgreen.se/sv/rekonditionerade-asus/asus-rog-strix-gl502vm-fy022t.html

[Transk53]

Hey @Smurf

After many many months of saving, I have reached a budget of two grand. Can I just ask what you would spec?

Now a 4K screen desirable, but a 120 – 144Hrz  with G-Sync would be good enough at native 1920 x 1080 res on a 17’3 screen.

Coffee Lake is a must for Intel, but not necessarily a i7 (if being used in laptops at the moment)
1 – 2 TB7200rpm  drive and a 250GB SSD.
32GB of paired sticks of DRAM.

Not sure if that will cause memory bleeding though, but want to go above 16, although not totally necessarily. What do you reckon? I have been looking at the Ryzen 2, but only a handful of machines if that available.

This machine looks really nice, but of course as usual a sacrifice has been made. In this case I think with the 16GB of ram.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-rog-nvidia-gtx-1070-8gb-gddr5-17.3-fhd-144hz-g-sync-i7-8750h-gaming-laptop-gl703gs-e5011t-lt-254-as.html

[Transk53]

24 minutes ago, Ames said:

Thanks. I have purchased from them before and it has worked well. I guess this one is the better option despite a slightly older chip:

http://www.elgreen.se/sv/rekonditionerade-asus/asus-rog-strix-gl502vm-fy022t.html

In this case I would say no. It is sharing a portion of the system ram. In itself not a huge issue, but I veer away from that because systems can slow down. Best to keep graphics with its own dedicated memory. Out of the two the first one is the best in this case.