Kubson Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 FC Santa Coloma is an Andorran football team based in the village of Santa Coloma, in the parish of Andorra la Vella. The club currently plays in Primera Divisió, and is its current champion and most successful team with ten titles. It is also the most successful team in the Copa Constitució, winning it eight times. I got kind of bored with the Crotone save and decided to give myself a massive challenge that is winning the Champions League with an Andorran team (hopefully by 2200 ). Unlike the other usual San Marino/Andorra this is not going to be a youth ONLY challenge, I am going to sign a lot of young players, but the I'll be trying to keep the core of the team Andorran. Basically, the aim of this save is going to be make Santa Coloma the best club, while also improving the quality of the Andorran natioanl team. Wish me luck In terms of updates, as the Andorran league is very short, I'll be doing updates after I finish a season, going to try put as many european updates as I can though. The club is actually semi-professional which will be an advantage (I think) in the early stages. We are playing in Champions League, which I'm sure will help out the financial side of the club and help improve our awful facilities. This is our team, as you can see I have some 16 year olds, that is due to the fact i ticked on add players to playable teams at the start of the save. Our best player is Juvenal who looks incredible for this level, his passing, first touch and free kick look immense. His physicals aren't too shabby either. Juvenal has actually been in La liga in his career and his stats show why. What to expect in next update? Champions League qualification and financial update. After that I'll show you the domestic competitions at the end of the year. See you very (hopefully :P) soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 Champions League 1st Qualifying Round (vs. Alashkert) A superb victory over the Armenian Champions, when I saw that they were a professional side, I though we'd get battered, however we firmly stood our ground and managed to cause an major upset. We played up against Alashkert using this formation, due to the fact that we have no quality wide players in the side, This tactic is very good in retaining possesion and attacking, if we beat our armenian opponents with such ease it's just scary to think what damage we might do in our domestic competitions. However our damaging potential is going to be limited up against Dinamo, in my opinion this is the worst draw possible, they are by far the best side at this stage, I'll be happy if we keep it under double figures. We've made our first signing of this save, bringing in Luis Pais from Lustians, he's a quality player at this level, especially at this level, he has very decent defensive attributes, especially marking and positioning, alongside high work-rate and teamwork as well as high jumping reach, strength and natural fitness. He already has good CA and decent PA, a legend in the making perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheriff7 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Good luck mate!! Andorra is a great country to start a save..Idelfons Lima is a great player and a national hero for Andorra too bad he is 37...Anyway you can find some good players there and from Andorra fc.Also there are too many Portuguese talents from lusitans .. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted May 21, 2017 Author Share Posted May 21, 2017 4 hours ago, Sheriff7 said: Good luck mate!! Andorra is a great country to start a save..Idelfons Lima is a great player and a national hero for Andorra too bad he is 37...Anyway you can find some good players there and from Andorra fc.Also there are too many Portuguese talents from lusitans .. Thanks man I actually tried signing players from FC Andorra but they want ridiculous wages, Lustians have pretty much the best player in the league and he's a 16 year old newgen... Lima is the top scorer for Andorra and he's a CB lol Too bad he thinks we're **** and doesn't want to join Champions League 2nd Qualifying round (vs. Dinamo) We did really well but they just had too much quality for us :/ We actually went 2-0 up at home and 1-0 up away, but we just couldn't defend for our lives out there. This is good news however! We may get our first youth facilities upgrade very soon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted May 21, 2017 Author Share Posted May 21, 2017 First of the many! Look at how cheap they are, it just shows how poor our facilities are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted May 21, 2017 Author Share Posted May 21, 2017 Just a quick update, in which i wanted to show you something interesting, AC Milan want Pais, now that's a good indication of his potential, however this could be bad news for us considering that he's one of our stars and has had some ridiculous growth, especially with the help of Ildefons Lima Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted May 21, 2017 Author Share Posted May 21, 2017 YOUTH INTAKE 2017 Considering the fact that we have awful youth facilities, this intake is not bad at all! One 4* PA and one 3,5* PA player is great. Just a shame we couldn't get a decent striker. Just like Bayern we have our own Javi Martinez He looks like a decent attacking midfielder for this level his technicals aren't awful, he's pretty quick for a CAM and has good decisions and work-rate, pretty solid if you ask me. Luis Silva is the second best player of this intake, he has some ok defensive attributes, bar positioning, with good aggression, decisions and jumping reach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted May 21, 2017 Author Share Posted May 21, 2017 END OF SEASON 2016/17 In the end we've managed to win the league by 4 points, a decent season, however our amount of draws is quite concerning, it proves how poor our finishing really is. We won the Andorran Super Cup with a 2-1 win over Santa Coloma (there are 2 ones in Andorra), we were the better side, they were lucky to make it to extra time Sadly we couldn't win the Andorran Cup, with a 1-0 loss to Lustians in the final, they were the better side and they deserved the win to be fair. Here is the team, as you can see it's pretty old and we need to make the core of the team younger in the summer. And we have a quite decent transfer kitty to do so, now if only someone from abroad would want to join it'd be perfect.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheriff7 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Great first year!!Congrats for the league title!! European games always are tricky for a semi-pro club good luck next year.. I smell money from Milan. P.S About the problem with old ages in your squad I think Andorra's national team has the same problem... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 7 hours ago, Sheriff7 said: Great first year!!Congrats for the league title!! European games always are tricky for a semi-pro club good luck next year.. I smell money from Milan. P.S About the problem with old ages in your squad I think Andorra's national team has the same problem... Thanks mate It was just disappointing that we couldn't hold on to our lead in either of these games :/ Champions League 1st Qualifying Round (vs. Europa) As you'd expect we destroyed the side from Gibraltar, we had way more quality and they didn't pose any form of threat in either of these games. Our reward for this game is a tie against Swedish Champions Goteborg, which I think is a better draw than Dinamo, but it's still going to be very tough for us. We had a **** ton of players leave because of being either unhappy or just simply due to the fact that they retired. We are stealing players from Lustians like Liverpool do from Southampton Take a look at that 17yo keeper tho! Talking about money for Pais look at this HUGE offer, they are so generous aren't they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 Champions League Second Qualifying Round (vs. Goteborg) This has got to be one of the greatest results I've ever had on Football Manager! We went 2-0 down twice in both legs, but we never gived up, kept on going and got our prize from the FM Gods. They were by far better than us in Sweden, however we were better in Andorra and in truth either side could have gone through, thankfully it's us! Now let's just get revenge against these Croatian bastards! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 Champions League Third Qualifying Round (vs. Dinamo) Well that went well... We were non-existent in Croatia, we could have lost by even higher margin, our overall play DID improve in Andorra, but we still lost These are some good news, we got half a milion for reaching the 3rd round and there is still money for Europa League play-off/group stage to come, so we can invest in the club (facilities) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
omnivore Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Nice payday from Europe! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 16 hours ago, omnivore said: Nice payday from Europe! Yeah if things keep going in this fashion we will have decent facilities in no time! Europa League Playoff (vs. Monchengladbach) As expected we got destroyed by the German side, but I'm happy with that we kept it under double figures and scored a goal away! We also got more money for this loss, we have 1 million in the bank now and our junior coaching was increased! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 YOUTH FACILITIES UPGRADE We got our facilities upgrades, they still aren't great, however I believe that our intakes will drastically improve comparing to the first ones. And they'll be upgraded furthermore very soon, but holy moly these are getting expensive! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheriff7 Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Nice try against Germans... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 Youth Intake 2018 This is a better intake than last year, as you can see our newly upgraded facilities are doing a fine job I feel like Bravo is the only player worth showing and worth a contract. He has some very solid stats for a 15 year old Andorran Regen, great marking, decision and positioning, his other stats aren't too shabby either. He's also got great jumping reach and natural fitness, and is ok height wise for a CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 End of season 2017/18 In the end we won the league on 69 points, 5 points ahead of Lustians. They were a very tough opponent and gave us a run for our money this season, hopefully we can win the league more comfortably next year. We lost in the Andorran Cup semi-final again to Lustians, we lost two last ties against them in this competiton. We have beaten them at least in the Andorran Super Cup in a game in which we were a better side. Our team is looking alright, but unfortunately it's an aging team. We also have to find a replacement for Pais as he is heading to Sporting after he refused to sign a new deal with us. And we have the funds to do so, as our transfer kitty gets better and better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted May 24, 2017 Author Share Posted May 24, 2017 Champions League First Qualifying Round (vs. Birkirkara) We destroyed the Maltese Champions in the first leg and the tie was pretty much over at 6-0, but Birkirkara put up a fight against us in the second leg beating us 3-1, we were the better side in both legs, we got the result we deserved in the 1st, they lucked out in the second leg. Our reward is a tie up against the Belarusian side BATE Borisov, it's a tough draw, they are better than Goteborg in my opinion and we need a miracle to go through especially with some star players leaving our side. Neither Pais or Silva wanted to sign new contracts, and Njoya wanted to move, as Lustians offered him a better deal than we did. We signed some terrific talents in form of Bernardes, Asencio and Sousa, Bernardes has an excellent personality, plays in both positions we need and has 5* potential, Sousa has terrific work-rate, he will certainly help our midfield, Asencio is one for the future, aside from his positioning and heading he hasn't got any great stats, but he's young and from Andorra so it's to be expected. Luisao has fantastic finsishing, heading and physicals for the standards of our divsion and will get us plenty of goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedese Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I love the title Good luck! You're off to a pretty good start already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted May 24, 2017 Author Share Posted May 24, 2017 45 minutes ago, Jupjamie said: I love the title Good luck! You're off to a pretty good start already Thanks mate Second Qualifying Round (vs. BATE) We actually did it! We've went through the second round round for the second year in a row! I thought it was over when we lost in Andorra, because we are **** away most of the time, but we've managed to somehow beat them in Belarus by not one, but two goals! We didn't deserve it in all honesty, but not complaining We are playing Q-i can't spell your name-g in the third round, we've got a fantastic chance of making the play-offs as they are worse than BATE, but they are still better than us and it's going to be tough for us, especially away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted May 24, 2017 Author Share Posted May 24, 2017 Champions League Third Qualifying Round (vs. Qarabag) Yess!!!!! Get in lads, we are going to be in Group Stages this year, regardless whether we will win the play-off or lose, which we'll most likely lose. We were by far better in the first leg, we could have eaisly put this tie to bed in Andorra, but the we didn't take our chances and that almost came back to haunt us in Azerbaijan, they were better this time around and we were lucky to make it to penalties, but we made it and we won! We were drawn against Olympiakos.. Well we'll be in Europa League at least... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keano16 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Fantastic progress! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1985 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 43 minutes ago, Kubson said: Champions League Third Qualifying Round (vs. Qarabag) Yess!!!!! Get in lads, we are going to be in Group Stages this year, regardless whether we will win the play-off or lose, which we'll most likely lose. We were by far better in the first leg, we could have eaisly put this tie to bed in Andorra, but the we didn't take our chances and that almost came back to haunt us in Azerbaijan, they were better this time around and we were lucky to make it to penalties, but we made it and we won! We were drawn against Olympiakos.. Well we'll be in Europa League at least... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted May 24, 2017 Author Share Posted May 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Keano16 said: Fantastic progress! 2 hours ago, mark1985 said: Thanks I still can't believe what happened! Well that went well.. I knew it was going to be tough and it turned out just this way, we were destroyed in Greece and we could have lost by even more, we improved in Andorra (as usual), but they still outplayed us and this tie just shows how far we are behind the quality of Champions League teams. Look at all of this money though! Thanks to our Champions League run we now have around 5 million in the bank! And this is our Europa League, it's a very tough group and our goal has to be to get some respectable results and try to keep it under 30 goals conceded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted May 24, 2017 Author Share Posted May 24, 2017 HUGE NEWS Our amazing European Run this year allowed us to turn professional, this is huge news as I will be able to not only sign better players, but also pay my players better wages and offer them longer contracts, not only that but our Junior Coaching was increased! I ****ing love my chairman! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheriff7 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Great progress mate!! This Luisao man is a goal-machine!! Good for Idelfons Lima to play in Europa league group stage before he retires(I think next year he will retire).. Good luck in Group stage,believe it you can take good results when I played with Lincoln red Imps I didn't have hopes for something good but we finished second!! 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1985 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Great news on the turning pro and better junior coaching. Can I borrow your chairman? Given that I'm doing a homegrown/youth save, I could do with an upgrade but my chairman is a bit hesitant As for the Europa league draw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted May 26, 2017 Author Share Posted May 26, 2017 On 25.05.2017 at 09:44, mark1985 said: Great news on the turning pro and better junior coaching. Can I borrow your chairman? Given that I'm doing a homegrown/youth save, I could do with an upgrade but my chairman is a bit hesitant As for the Europa league draw You weren't wrong there... We scored 7 and conceded 27.. The closest we were to getting a point was a 4-6 defeat to Genk, a game in which we were 3-2 up at one point ****ing bottlers.. Of course we finished bottom, Besiktas and Bilbao both went through as expected. Hey at least we scored 7 time, that's good right?! RIGHT?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1985 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 4-6? That looks like an epic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted May 26, 2017 Author Share Posted May 26, 2017 Just now, mark1985 said: 4-6? That looks like an epic! It was certainly for Genk, not quite for us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1985 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, Kubson said: It was certainly for Genk, not quite for us It's not the winning, it's the taking part that counts. Said no FMer ever... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted May 26, 2017 Author Share Posted May 26, 2017 Youth Facilities Upgrade We got our second youth facilities upgrade, we now have below average youth facilities, which is great for an Andorran Club. They will be upgraded furthermore, not only them but also our training facilities, i love my chairman hope he stays forever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted May 26, 2017 Author Share Posted May 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, mark1985 said: It's not the winning, it's the taking part that counts. Said no FMer ever... Mate you have no idea how pissed i was when we lost this Of course i get FM'D as usual Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted May 26, 2017 Author Share Posted May 26, 2017 YOUTH INTAKE DAY 2019 Youth facilities upgrades are proving their worth! We got to 5* stars PA players and one 4* PA player all with pretty high CA for players fresh from intake, very happy with this year's intake In my opinion this is the main man.. teen 191 cm tall at 15 years old bloody hell they must have some solid chicken in Andorra.. anyway 17 determination, 18 bravery (must have been very brave to go through school with that hair..), 12 positioning, 14 jumping reach, 12 marking! 9 tackling and 8 heading isn't too shaby for an Andorran 15yo either! This guy is gonna be a legend for both Santa Coloma AND Andorra, i can feel it Javier has good decisions and determination, has excellent first touch and can actually take a free kick, his technique and vision is also decent. He's not really good at passing now, but he has plenty of time to grow. Not sure why our HoYD was jizzing over him and not Martinez though.. Mikel is going straight into the first team as a back-up goalie, possibly he might be our future number one. He has fantastic handling and rushing out and that's pretty much about it I guess.. he's not too bad about on par with our starting goalkeeper I'd say. I know that Carmona doesn't look fantastic, but take a look at those mental stats, 14 work rate, 16 team work, 16 determination and 19 flair! 11 finishing is very decent and the lad also knows how to take free kicks with 12 free kick taking. On the flip side some of his stats are very dodgy, I mean 4 heading, 3 long shots, 1 ****ing concentration and 1 positioning (I'm sure his girlfriend isn't too happy about it either..). He has a future at this club not as a first team player or anything, but with that determination he's gonna be very useful for tutoring, but you never know he might be decent, I really hope so! Overall I couldn't be more happy about this intake, I think that our facilities are clearly having an effect nowadays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWednesday Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Great to see somebody else playing with Santa Coloma, i'm currently in 2030 with them and have just been knocked out of the Champions League in the group stages. Andorra is a great league to manage in! I shall follow your progress closely mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted May 27, 2017 Author Share Posted May 27, 2017 13 hours ago, TheWednesday said: Great to see somebody else playing with Santa Coloma, i'm currently in 2030 with them and have just been knocked out of the Champions League in the group stages. Andorra is a great league to manage in! I shall follow your progress closely mate. Thanks mate nice to see you following Well done on reaching the CL group stages We've managed to win the league by 2 points in the end, Lustians have been putting up a fight in recent years, our form dipped a bit at the end and I thought we'd blow the title, but thankfully a 3-0 win over Jenlai on the final day, secured us our 3rd title in 3 years. We also won the Andorran Super Cup with a solid 2-0 victory over Lustians. Joao Sousa who was let go bo Lustians scored a brace against them We completed the treble with a penalty win against Lustians. We've finally beaten them after they have eliminated us twice in 2 years in this competiton. We have a very solid transfer budget at 3 milion, we will be able to do some solid business specially with us turning pro in a month. And here are the team's stats, we have a very decent team now with some cracking youngsters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted May 27, 2017 Author Share Posted May 27, 2017 It's been coming and now it's official, we are finally professional and the first club in the country to be pro. I've decided to load up some leagues in hunt for new regens as we are pro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted May 27, 2017 Author Share Posted May 27, 2017 We also have some sad news, as Lima retires. He's been a fantastic servant for both Santa Coloma and Andorran national team, it's going to be tough to replace such a fantastic player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheriff7 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Kubson said: We also have some sad news, as Lima retires. He's been a fantastic servant for both Santa Coloma and Andorran national team, it's going to be tough to replace such a fantastic player. Yeah he is great!!He is a good guy too I speak with him in Twitter..😁 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1985 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Congrats in going pro. That always helps. That's the next jan for me in my save. I've done a Gibralter save and dabbled in Andorra and getting the champs leage money early doors is always a help with upgrades etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWednesday Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 You've turned pro quicker than I did as well so hopefully that bodes well for you, I recommend loading up the Portuguese leagues as there are some really decent players you can poach there! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliep Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 You're flying through this. Good work! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted June 17, 2017 Author Share Posted June 17, 2017 On 28.05.2017 at 15:41, mark1985 said: Congrats in going pro. That always helps. That's the next jan for me in my save. I've done a Gibralter save and dabbled in Andorra and getting the champs leage money early doors is always a help with upgrades etc. On 28.05.2017 at 20:40, TheWednesday said: You've turned pro quicker than I did as well so hopefully that bodes well for you, I recommend loading up the Portuguese leagues as there are some really decent players you can poach there! On 28.05.2017 at 20:48, olliep said: You're flying through this. Good work! Thanks guys! Pretty much the european competitons are the only hope here, selling players is a nightmare due to the league's reputation being so low. I'll be sure to load the portugese leagues thanks! Yep this **** is finally coming back! Sorry that I couldn't do any updates, I've had some important exams in this time and i didn't really have time to play the part of Santa Coloma Manager, now that school's finished you can be sure that I'm going to be updating! Champions League Second Qualifying Round (vs. Jeunesse Esch) We started our Champions League campaign in the second round due to our good performances last year, which is very helpful as we avoided a tough team at this stage. We came up against the champions of Luxembourg and as expected they weren't much of a threat, we dominated them in both legs and deserved to go through. Our reward is a tie against the champions of Slovenia Maribor, they are a tough team, but I think this is a good draw as they the easiest team at this stage I fell, we could have came up against sides like Ajax for example. We've managed to complete 3 transfers as the players from the leagues I loaded up weren't interested in joining. Martins is going to be a very handy player for us, he can play as a rb or a lb, positions in which we are really struggling, he also has some ok stats for Andorran League, Canedo is not fantastic, his stats are ok at best, but we couldn't really find anyone better and he can play as a cam or cm which is very good, Robba is our first signing from abroad! He is someone who I'm sure Sheriff7 knows very well He is a very good goalie in my opinion by far the best in the league, he joins us after being released by 5th tier side Torquay, which shows how poor our league is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted June 17, 2017 Author Share Posted June 17, 2017 Champions League Third Qualifying Round (vs. Maribor) And there go our Group Stage dreams.. I can't say I'm not surprised that we lost, but I'm kinda disappointed as the tie was very even and could have gone either way, sadly it went Maribor's way. I don't know who we are going to get in Europa League play-off, but whoever that is, is going to most likely batter us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWednesday Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Unlucky there mate, looks to have been very close! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted June 18, 2017 Author Share Posted June 18, 2017 15 hours ago, TheWednesday said: Unlucky there mate, looks to have been very close! It was, but we got some luck in the Europa League play-off! We got the best possible draw, facing danish side which name's i'm not even going to try and pronounce. They still were much better than us and dominated us in the both legs, but we were very lucky that they couldn't finish anything! And with that, oh boy look at all this money that we got! Guess who's gonna improve their facilities Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted June 18, 2017 Author Share Posted June 18, 2017 And this is our group.. well we are going to get smashed, aren't we? I'm hoping that we can get 1 point against Austria Wien Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubson Posted June 18, 2017 Author Share Posted June 18, 2017 Just wanted to share this, look at this **** I was looking through the young regens without a club and i found a great rb from Macau from all places, who are bottom in in-game fifa rankings. He looks excellent for a 16yo from Macau and would be pretty much the best player in our league, the best part is he wants to join! Oh great we have to wait a year... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWednesday Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 What a find that is!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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