difran8 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 On 3/12/2016 at 14:45, Rashidi said: So in came a new plan. Continue playing with the High Block but start looking at dropping the Defensive Line so we could isolate any wide 433 attacking us. It worked a treat. Every 433 that came up against us, got swatted away. Few if any sides in Italy were playing Fluid, they were all so structured. Can you explain that isolation bit? I gather that, by dropping your DL, you deny space in behind them but you also allow them space in front. Do you mean those 3 were less of a threat in front because their support was far away? Also, what is the Defensive Line exactly? The starting position of the defenders ? The closing down setting of the defenders? . Should i consider this an attacking or defending instruction? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji-Sung Park Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 2 hours ago, kingodisko26 said: where is the link? Christ on Christmas morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rashidi Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 1 hour ago, difran8 said: Can you explain that isolation bit? I gather that, by dropping your DL, you deny space in behind them but you also allow them space in front. Do you mean those 3 were less of a threat in front because their support was far away? Also, what is the Defensive Line exactly? The starting position of the defenders ? The closing down setting of the defenders? . Should i consider this an attacking or defending instruction? This is a pushed up defensive line, playing very fluid with 3 attack duties, note the distance between the backline and the goal keeper. That's your defensive line. This is a deep defensive line, playing very fluid with 3 attack duties, note how the AM will drop deep to defend, again very fluid, no change in duties to the front three These are all positions the team takes when you are without the ball, your defensive line is not an arbitrary line across the pitch, but more the zone between the keeper and your players. So sometimes I may opt to play deep if I am confident in my backline to be able to snuff out a threat. However that also means I am playing closer to my goal. By dropping my defensive line I could isolate their attack, if my two guys upfront do the job they are meant to do. Basically if I lose the ball in the opponents half of an attack, most of my players will start to retreat when the transition happens, if I have set close down much more on the front group, they will be encouraged to win the ball back. If we set the defensive line deep, I could set a zone where their players are isolated. All these pictures were done in a game where I adjusted the Defensive Line to illustrate my point. Deep d lines also have the effect of isolating your own players as you can see, so they need to be good at holding up and/or beating the AIs defensive line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James9 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Hey Rashidi, in a 4312 which would you say is the most grids to close down. I have gone for the front grid so both strikers are set to close down much more and the midfield grid but i only have the two side midfielders closing down much more. all the rest are left to default settings. I have added some PI to try and get certain players to perform the way i want Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rashidi Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 1 hour ago, James9 said: Hey Rashidi, in a 4312 which would you say is the most grids to close down. I have gone for the front grid so both strikers are set to close down much more and the midfield grid but i only have the two side midfielders closing down much more. all the rest are left to default settings. I have added some PI to try and get certain players to perform the way i want You should go back and read the posts...I did a graphic and I laid it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rashidi Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 1 hour ago, James9 said: Hey Rashidi, in a 4312 which would you say is the most grids to close down. I have gone for the front grid so both strikers are set to close down much more and the midfield grid but i only have the two side midfielders closing down much more. all the rest are left to default settings. I have added some PI to try and get certain players to perform the way i want You should go back and read the posts...I did a graphic and I laid it out.9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee_Simpson Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 11 hours ago, Rashidi said: For players in the medium block and high block areas I would go for nothing less than 12. If you look at my side the best performing player has 15. Thanks. I'm guessing for the defence it isn't that important then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James9 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 2 hours ago, Rashidi said: You should go back and read the posts...I did a graphic and I laid it out.9 Sorry For my ignorance could you direct me to were it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji-Sung Park Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 4 hours ago, James9 said: Sorry For my ignorance could you direct me to were it is. James, what's your favorite color and why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James9 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 16 hours ago, Rashidi said: You should go back and read the posts...I did a graphic and I laid it out.9 Sorry For my ignorance could you direct me to were it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James9 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Hey Rashidi spent most of the night watching your videos and reading your blogs on addicted to FM. I feel like I am getting close to getting a grip with the game. You mentioned in your Counter Pressing blog an option to turn your attacking line to attack duty. I found this very strange because when I am reading through the forums it seems to be that when playing a top heavy system you should not more than 1 player on Attack duty especially in the 4231 wide which is what I play. Could you shine some light on this so I do not get too confused. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Fortune Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Very nice series. Especially because the majestic Murray Wallace seems to be the first name on the team sheet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James9 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Still reading, watching and learning from this excellent series. I have a question for Rashidi if you went a goal down on defensive structured would you change straight away to Control structured or would you go to attacking fluid. My thoughts is to go up to the next mentality which is Standard/structured and see how things are going. If I am still struggling I then go to Control and the last stop is Attacking/Fluid but I then reduce my defensive line to normal. I just wanted to see what you did and how you did it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BojanVu Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 in his video wher hi is beat ManUtd hi change defensive-very fluid at standard very fluid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikcheck Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I think Rashidi only uses very fluid shape for counter pressing, but i'm not sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BojanVu Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 he used with defensive and standard mentality in second against ManUtd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rashidi Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 On 11/12/2016 at 16:19, James9 said: Hey Rashidi spent most of the night watching your videos and reading your blogs on addicted to FM. I feel like I am getting close to getting a grip with the game. You mentioned in your Counter Pressing blog an option to turn your attacking line to attack duty. I found this very strange because when I am reading through the forums it seems to be that when playing a top heavy system you should not more than 1 player on Attack duty especially in the 4231 wide which is what I play. Could you shine some light on this so I do not get too confused. Sometimes I may opt to change shapes, and I want the two guys upfront to harass a defensive line. So I could set them both to attack duties and launch direct passes in their direction. It really depends on the match situation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirajzl Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 @Rashidi Is there a release date for your book/guide? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamneallyons Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Just watched some of the torino diaries, the liverpool champs league game was immense! haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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