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  1. Ji-Sung Park

    Menotti y Bilardo

    The only time that happens is if the team loses ball between themselves in the back three, i.e. one CD makes a bad forward pass. I've never used a slow player in the Lib position though, so it could be an issue with slower type players. Not sure. Most conceded goals comes from set pieces and long range.
  2. Ji-Sung Park

    Menotti y Bilardo

    Holy moly, my bad. I saw a piece written by Pep ahead the WC in Germany and thought he played under La Volpe.
  3. Ji-Sung Park

    Menotti y Bilardo

    (My laptop keeps overheating, not easy running FM while making posts) How does it work? The width of the back three will be influenced by the opponent. If they field for instance one striker and two wingers in the AM strata, the defenders will be narrower throughout. If you face a single striker formation they will be very wide, thus buildup play from the back is very easy. The GK have a PI that he will distribute to the Libero. This a version of "La Salida Lavolpiana", created by Ricardo La Volpe and later adapted by Pep Guardiola. In the Salida Lavolpiana a DM is used to drop in between the CDs and make it easy to shuttle the ball out of defense in a safe manner. This is also what we do with the Libero, who in this example is the DM. Since I do not focus at all on possession I really don't make a plan for what happens next. The PI's I have chosen deal more with the shape if anything else. I am obsessed with shape, so what the players do is more up to them, as long as they stay within the confines of this frame. Creating overloads: A natural consequence of playing very wide is that the one side will be more crowded by opponents, than the other, as seen below (Spoiler alert: Our left wingback Grimaldo is about to score). Our playmaker makes a short pass to Cristante (Reg) and he puts Grimaldo through on goal: Achievement unlocked: Backslide celebration. There are plenty of ways to adjust as you go. I have for instance played with Grimaldo as a supportive IWB and Franco Cervi on attack on the left wing. It paid off in terms of goals, but I didn't study carefully the pros and cons of that maneuver. Another thing I frequently alter is the mentioned "patroler" role of the DM. With Bielsa he used a DM in front of the back three to work the space between defense and midfield. I use both Fejsa and Cristante. With Fejsa I go for the DM on support and Cristante is a regista. In any case they need to be defensively sound enough to stay in position when we are being pushed back. The regista is not a role that will chase all over, so in terms of shape it's a good choice. Player Instructions. GK: Fewer Risky Passes, Distribute to Libero. Lib: Dribble Less (because of limited skills) CD: N/A CD: N/A IWB: Close Down More. When on (s) duty: Get further Forward as well. DM: N/A IWB: Same as the opposite side. Winger: N/A AP: Roam, Get Further Forward Winger: N/A DLF: Roam and Move Into Channels.
  4. Ji-Sung Park

    Menotti y Bilardo

    Lots. I will try to make a post on this, there are a few issues with my laptop at the moment so I have to do it later on.
  5. Ji-Sung Park

    Menotti y Bilardo

    Buenas Carlos, For now I have stayed with the Bielsa inspired hybrid, but I would love to make a Menotti inspired version. Let's see how much free time I have. Muchas gracias.
  6. Ji-Sung Park

    Menotti y Bilardo

    A few clips and blogs on this topic. Carlos explains his back three: On reaching a WC final: The final itself: The last clip is hilarious. "Even my wife laughed at the Brazilians." (on using Leonardo as a playmaker) Blog: Run this through google translate: El Enganche
  7. Ji-Sung Park

    Menotti y Bilardo

    After switching to Benfica I knew I could play with more risk, especially in the league. Having only 2 really good teams besides ours, most matches will see us favorites and we can push forward. With that in mind I am currently working with this setup: Changeable TI's: The default it counter still, but I realize it's too careful for a team such as Benfica. I often switch to control during a match, but have to be careful with the defensive line as I don't have a lot of pace in the back three. By going control you also go as wide as possible. It's a constant thought process for me and I try to adjust as the games play out. By the looks of it there is a huge gap between our midfield and the front four. Let's see what the TC says about this: The Playmaker Furthermore, we have an attacking playmaker. During a recent clasico against Porto I saw how well this worked first hand, as Filip Krovinovic ran rampant and and won man of the match with an 8.9 rating (without scoring or assisting). Here is how he performed in the role: Left: Touches (186!). Middle: heat map. Right: Key passes/chances created. He is not our set piece taker either, this is all open play. All over the place, dribbling, passing, setting up players. He only lacked an assist or a goal. Very pleasing. The Libero Bilardo preferred a sweeper, I prefer a libero. The Libero on support duty will act more as a toned down ball playing defender, while on attack he will be more forward, and in our system form a double pivot when playing with a regista in midfield. My libero at Benfica had to be Samaris, as there were no other real options available. After some retraining he is performing okay. The Libero role will not produce outstanding ratings, instead you have to look at him as a pawn in a system and his role is there to push the others forward. Left: touches in a league game. Middle: average position without ball, on attack duty. Right: Andreas Samaris attributes, with Libero on Attack highlighted. It's very early still in my Portuguese career, so it's impossible to say if this will work with a vastly better side against better opponents. So far I am undefeated, so I'm optimistic.
  8. Introduction During a long haul flight I recently endured (who decides it's a good idea to fly from the Far East to Europe at 8 in the morning?) I read the book "Inverting the Pyramid" by Jonathan Wilson. The book details the tactical evolution of various systems since as far back as we have records. One passage caught my eye: the 3-5-2 probably invented by pragmatist Carlos Salvador Bilardo. Using this system Argentina won the '86 World Cup, bringing home El Mundial for the second time in eight years. Another possible inventor of the 3-5-2 is Ciro Blazevic with Dinamo Zagreb in the early eighties. It's all semantics, because within this 3-5-2 the style of the two managers were very different. Before Bilardo took Argentina to back-to-back World Cup Finals, César Luis Menotti had won the Cup using a much more aesthetic and eye catching approach in '78. However, the '82 failure saw Menotti resign and Bilardo brought a new concept to the federation and nation as a whole: win at all costs. For a proud footballing nation this was very controversial and a divide in tactical thinking was created; menottismo y bilardismo. Menottismo is strongly influenced by Total Football and the Dutch way of playing. Menotti used a version of what we know now as the 4-1-2-2-1, or 4-3-3. Mario Kempes was given a free role behind the front 3 as a playmaker and won the final almost alone, making surging runs in the great spaces left by the Dutch team, who couldn't cope with the movements of the Argentine front 3. Kempes scored twice in a 3-1 win after ET and that was that. Bilardismo is much more pragmatic and cynical. Bilardo and Menotti would over the years become footballing enemies and the latter would use every chance he got to criticize the way the Argentine team was playing under Bilardo. Bilardo faced a huge challenge when creating the 3-5-2 - how to implement the demi god of football Maradona in a five man midfield. Back then this was unheard of, everybody knew that a player like that would only thrive in a 4-3-1-2. Bilardo solved this by making the defensive midfielder a "destroyer" and giving free roles to the wing backs when Maradona was man-marked out of a game. The wing backs would then be asked to cut inside and making runs to confuse and break the shapes of the opponents. When the English decided against man marking, Diego he scored the Goal of The Century. When Bilardo explains this it sounds ridiculously simple, I'm sure there was more to it. However, bilardismo is known as antifútbol in South America, even though he had great success. Over the years not only managers, but also the footballing journalists of Argentina have chosen sides. The two schools can be seen as tactical religions and until you as a manager have substantial success on your own, you are either a menottista or bilardista. Although most managers choose the Menotti way (La Volpe, Gallardo, Pekerman, Sensini), the Argentine coach with most success in recent years is a Bilardista; Diego Simeone. This is from an Argentinian website: Despite living in South America for 6 years, I never really knew much about the different tactical schools of Argentine football. I thought to myself, as I was reading up on this, why not make a hybrid of the two and go from there? Turns out someone, IRL, thought of this before me. In other words, in my alternative universe Marcelo Bielsa was never born and I am the one to unite these two theories to create something bastardly and surprising. The 3-3-3-1/3-3-1-3 My idea was to create a system that was both defensively solid and spatially oriented, meaning that I would find a tactic that would work well against superior and inferior sides, needing only slight changes in roles to make changes. I read up on the various Bielsa systems in addition to Bilardo, but never wanting to go full Bielsa I looked for something in between. I didn't want a possession system and I had to find a way to make use of the two traditions of Argentine football: one libero/sweeper and one pure No 10. Both Menotti and Bilardo had each one truly great enganche, or #10 in Kempes and Maradona respectively. Bielsa used the libero/sweeper role that Bilardo used in his system, but used the wingers more associated with Menotti. This tactical posts starts with Indenpendiente in Argentina, I then moved to Benfica after being offered the job as the Apertura 2018 was about to begin. Therefore, some of the contents will deal with the Independiente side that won the Sudamericana and Clausura (I still use those terms, even though they now are one tournament). Then the tactic evolved slightly in terms of roles at Benfica, because the squad there is much stronger and have different types of players. This image is from a Copa Libertadores match against Palmeiras. At Independiente I used a more cautious approach as most opponents are either equal or superior in ability. In this image you can see the defensive shape, where we form a defensive wall of 6 defensive players. It is the job of the two CD's to break play ahead of the libero, to stop any advances from the forward 3 Palmeiras players. Once winning the ball they will look to pass it forward quickly and vertically. The formation here is straight out of the Bielsa playbook, the shape/mentality is not. In this post I will not go into detail on the various settings and roles, I will do that in a separate post. But I think you can see what the objective is: Stretch the play wide to create spaces in the central areas. The inverted wingbacks will serve as central midfielders when we have the ball high up and drop deep to build a wall in defense. The central areas must then be used for full effect, both by our free-flying playmaker and said IWB's. Two examples below of the wingbacks scoring from open play: Both of these goals came against very defensive sides. The leftmost image displays my left winger Blanco putting a low cross in between the goalie and defenders, Fabricio Bustos has snuck free and scores from a simple tap-in. The AP is barely visible, right next to Bustos, also free from defenders. In the rightmost image our right winger Benitez drops back and deep, receives the ball from the DM and using two touches the right wingback Britez is through on goal, scoring. Next up I will go into the tactical side and then finally give you some inspiration in the form of Bilardo vids and hipster blogs.
  9. Couldn't agree more, I almost fell out of my beanie bag when I read it.
  10. Kovac will take over from Heynckes next season. In real life that is. This is not fiction.
  11. Ji-Sung Park

    The Egyptian king

    Just watch his videos
  12. Ji-Sung Park

    FM18: FC Schalke 04 - Closing the Loop

    Can't remember that one, sorry. Probably a bug.
  13. Ji-Sung Park

    [ENGLAND] (Official) Liverpool Data Issues

    Not sure if mentioned but van Dijk has "prefers to be on right if two man pairing". He plays as left sided central defender at Liverpool, Same at Southampton, Yoshida on the right. Agree?
  14. Ji-Sung Park

    The Egyptian king

    As-salamu alaykum. I watched my first CL match in a long time on Wednesday (living in the Far East is not ideal for European nights) and thought to myself that it should be possible to replicate the shape of the Klopp system at least. It will be impossible to replicate triangulated pressing patterns and the Mo Salah goals and heat maps and all that, but I did make an effort. (Personally I think Rashidi is pretty darn close with his, mine is just a strikerless to offer another option) This is the average position for the most part. I have an away tactic for the really tough matches (City, United, Juventus, Chelsea away) that is more probing and less possession oriented, but 85% of the games I get these positions. Karius: Distribute to center backs. TAA: Tackle harder, more direct passes and stay wider. van Dijk: N/A Lovren: N/A Robertson: Tackle harder, fewer risky passes and stay wider. Ox: Tackle harder, more risky passes. Henderson: Tackle harder, pass it shorter, fewer risky passes. (DLP(d) is also a viable option for added %). Milner: Tackle harder (can be used as a DLP(s) if you want to increase possession). Salah: Roam and pass it shorter. Firmino: Roam, pass it shorter, move into channels. Mané: Sit narrower. The results so far (almost Xmas): Same squad as IRL, no ins or outs. Salah: So he's not producing 1 goal per game, but all the goals he's scored have been of the Salah variety. Long runs in behind the defense and whipped into the opposite corner of the goal. He's also given us at least 3 pens that I can think of. Whenever he's fouled it's always in a dangerous position. He also scores a lot of 1-0 goals from open play, which is very nice. The obvious issue with this tactic is that it is somewhat exploitative. You have tremendous gegenpressing opportunities with three bodies in the AM strata, you'll have huge amounts of CCC's. I'll post one from the Burnley away game in the bottom, just to illustrate. Salah will get tons of CCCs and as such, if he doesn't tuck it in his ratings will suffer. In the Burnley game he had 4 clear cut chances that he blew and finished with a 5.8 rating. The tactic is exploitative towards the match engine as you'll get a lot of one-on-ones with the opposing GK. We all know how that works in FM.
  15. I tried making replica of this for the purpose of posting on this forum, but met a few stumbling blocks. Here are a few traits they have IRL that you can consider to make it authentic: 1. The two wingbacks are extremely wide, they hug the line and then cut inside very close to the opposition goal. On attacking duty this will be hard to replicate. 2. One famous phrase from Kovacs is "you have to eat dirt!". He wants his players to be physically imposing (tackle harder at the very least). They have the highest amount of yellow cards in the league. 3. Low possession and pass completion rate. They have a very direct playing style IRL and on average only 75% pass completion. 4. Only 39 goals scored this season, 15 of those from set pieces. I think you can take some artistic liberties when creating the strike force as they really don't have any particular trait IRL. Both strikers drop deep and Rebic likes to drift out wide on the left side. For instance, you use a sweeper keeper and ball playing defenders in your tactic, that would be very flattering for the real life team. Falette maybe a BPD, not the other one.
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