AlCapone Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Dave why you dont try to make 4-2-3-1 whit 2 dmc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 No way can your 4123 be better than this.... :s cant wait to get my hands on it. Going to start a Barca save..as much as i despise lionel messi! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyke Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 If you think of total training as a pie, match prep is a slice of the pie, set to very high it's a larger slice - my understanding is that once everything is fluid, reducing match prep from very high will free up more of the pie for their general training, thus making that general training more effective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krilov Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 lelandro damiao is amazing at STC position in this tactic. scored 40 in 16 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 If you think of total training as a pie, match prep is a slice of the pie, set to very high it's a larger slice - my understanding is that once everything is fluid, reducing match prep from very high will free up more of the pie for their general training, thus making that general training more effective. Yeah thats exactly what i thought Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akash777 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 dave, i lowered from very high to mediumand i lost the first 2 game in the season. i was unbeaten with southport on blue square Yea I had similar problems in my game as well,not with this tactic.Havent had the chance to play due to exams. But from what I remember,the problem is because,both his tactics and mine rely on heavily on players closing down etc. So with more match prep training,they get less tired and hence performance is better. But with reasonably lower match prep,the team is always more tired and hence performance is poorer. That is why I advice everyone who uses my tactic to rest players a day after a game if they have a 2 day break and 2 days if they have a 3 day break,i.e. one training day before a game.This keeps them fresh and doesn't let this happen.Maybe you guys could try that. Also don't drop the match prep levels drastically,but rather drop it gradually,giving the team more time to adjust. I hope I make sense here,but this is something I discovered when I played last which was a month ago,so I am not cent percent sure. But I guess you got the general idea. Anyways Hough,tactic looks like a beast as always,will most definitely give it a shot before I start my work on the update I promised others,lol. Btw,can you tell me how you embed opposition instructions?This is a new thing I am seeing,never saw it before. I already have my wingers on man mark to get them to track back,but never realized specific man mark could do this kind of damage.lol. By the looks of it,this might just be the ultimate tactic.I wonder how you could've made it better. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Top top tactic. Started with Preston and have no money at all. Used this tactic and won the league with 8 games to go. Mellor scored 62 for the season! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 This tactic works much better if you do the team talks yourself, and for some reason this has made my outer strikers score much more as well. I was just carrying on my test game just to see if this tactic could really survive the re-rank. Higauin currently has 88 goals in 38 games and Tevez has 20 in 38 and Aguero has 15 in 37. Silva has 30 assists in 31 games Aguero has 21 and Tevez has 17. PLayed 27 in the league won 25 drawn 2 lost 0 scored 90 conceded 16 77 points with a game in hand. 2nd place has 71 points. In the Carling CUp Final, still in the FA CUP, and just beat Juventus 3-1 away from home in the first leg of the first knockout of the champions league and it shouldnt be too much trouble to beat them at home:) I don't know if it is worth trying Grid Tactic or not...cause this is simply awesome! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PequenoGenio Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 what kind of players do i have to use in STL and STR? Wingers or strikers? and should i training as wingers or strikers? one more question: where are the filter's for the atributs players? sorry for the bad english Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
irabbit Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I played Mr.Hough's 4-2-1-3 with My valencia(Before i used Grid tactic after i lose to At.Madrid then changed to Mr.Hough tactic) ,Now I'm unbeaten after 28 games. Thank you Mr.Perfectionist Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 It's just a shame that this was only a test save. With test saves, I never usually make signings, i set up my manager profile with the name "test user" and just randomly select options, didn't load up all the leagues, didnt put much effort into team and man management. I didnt expect to do so well with it tbh, now im regretting I didn't just start a proper career save from the off. I'm going to now though, hopefully this will bring me years of success! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PequenoGenio Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 It does not 100% matter to be honest, I suppose in theory that if you put a right footed ST in the left ST position the idea would be to cut inside onto his right foot and curl/place the ball into the goal.The idea in this tactic though is for the Right and left ST's to play as almost as Wingers, When they receive the ball they don't really cut inside they move out wide to provide space and creativity play to the central ST. Thats one of the reasons i think he scores so many goals. SO can i use wingers at right and left ST? And should i training them to ST and what schedules shloud i use? For wingers or for ST? One more thing: were's the filter's for shearch playrs? sorry for the bad english Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevinmatt Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Great tactic so far.. changed it straight after preseason.. Results in the black box using it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akash777 Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 This tactic works much better if you do the team talks yourself, and for some reason this has made my outer strikers score much more as well.I was just carrying on my test game just to see if this tactic could really survive the re-rank. Higauin currently has 88 goals in 38 games and Tevez has 20 in 38 and Aguero has 15 in 37. Silva has 30 assists in 31 games Aguero has 21 and Tevez has 17. PLayed 27 in the league won 25 drawn 2 lost 0 scored 90 conceded 16 77 points with a game in hand. 2nd place has 71 points. In the Carling CUp Final, still in the FA CUP, and just beat Juventus 3-1 away from home in the first leg of the first knockout of the champions league and it shouldnt be too much trouble to beat them at home:) I don't know if it is worth trying Grid Tactic or not...cause this is simply awesome! You using the side strikers inverted or on the side of their preferred foot? And do you use match prep attacking movement? Im currently using the Grid press version with this really small team(started off from pyramid 10) and its working a treat,conceded only 2 from 6 and that too one from a pen and another a long shot. I am having a similar dilemma to yours,but just the other way round.I even have this loaded as one of the 3 tactics,lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy2006 Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Hi All, I dunno if it's just mine but i'm currentley using this tactic with Bradford in my 3rd season. I've managed to get back to back promotions using Mr Hough's 4-1-2-3 back to his best tactic to the championship but now i've switched to this one i seem to be getting alot of draws. In my first 18 games i've won 8 and drew 10 lost 0, still unbeaten which is great and i'm 2nd in the league, my only defeat has come away to spurs in the carling cup after the last min of extra time (gutted so close to pens but ah well) but I was just wondering for any advice on any changes i could make to try and convert these draws into wins or if i should stick it out with this tactic or if i should switch back to Mr Hough's previous one which i've had my success with? Any Advice would be great Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PequenoGenio Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 My teams receive to many yellow cards :confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Hough how is the latest variation of this tactic coming along? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjgoodsell Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Ive started using this tactic... I have a couple of what I call issues to me I either conceed a goal on 82 mins when winning 5 or more or I go behind to an early goal! The thing I have done wrong is start using it in February of that season - is this tactic going to need more time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 Hough how is the latest variation of this tactic coming along? It's a strange to be honest, I have generally beaten teams easily with Tottenham and i mean really really easy like i have played Arsenal liverpool and Man city in that order and beaten each team 4-0, I then play Chelsea and literally get played off the park and dominated, Maybe it's the match engine but that should not happen. Gonna be playing abit more today as i have neglected FM over the past few days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 Ive started using this tactic...I have a couple of what I call issues to me I either conceed a goal on 82 mins when winning 5 or more or I go behind to an early goal! The thing I have done wrong is start using it in February of that season - is this tactic going to need more time? This is probably the most annoying thing about FM for me this year, It's that single solitary goal that the opposition score after you are winning by a massive margin. Something you can maybe look into i haven't tried this though is that maybe your team gets a bit complacent and switches off after going so far ahead so maybe bring on a few players and ask them in the instructions to go and prove something, maybe that will send a message to the team to stay focused. As i say i haven't tried this but something you can try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 I'm really close to the end of my season so i'll upload screens once finished, Should easy be today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjgoodsell Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 This is probably the most annoying thing about FM for me this year, It's that single solitary goal that the opposition score after you are winning by a massive margin.Something you can maybe look into i haven't tried this though is that maybe your team gets a bit complacent and switches off after going so far ahead so maybe bring on a few players and ask them in the instructions to go and prove something, maybe that will send a message to the team to stay focused. As i say i haven't tried this but something you can try. I'll give that a go and let you know what happens ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jimmyrh94 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 78 league goals (118 overall) for higuain in his first season at the club and my first season in at the club. This tactic broke the game. 142 league goals aguero got 26 and tevez got 23 whilst Neymar got 16 in 15 appearances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 All these Results have been with the New 4-1-2-3, I had a fantastic season with tottenham only lost one game through the entire season and that was in the league. I wanna do another test as i do have a fairly decent squad so i'm gonna test with a default side and see how it does then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chanty Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I'm giving this also a test run, i play with France, and still hoping for a team so i can play double, let you know But one question on the midfield, Sissokho,Cabaye and M'Vila, or Nasri? Strikers are Benzema-Giroud -Remy Thanx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted June 25, 2012 Author Share Posted June 25, 2012 I'm giving this also a test run, i play with France, and still hoping for a team so i can play double, let you know But one question on the midfield, Sissokho,Cabaye and M'Vila, or Nasri? Strikers are Benzema-Giroud -Remy Thanx You should do very well, Make sure you put your best ST in the Center position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chanty Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 You should do very well, Make sure you put your best ST in the Center position. Oke only problem now is Ribery Thank god he's injured Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Mr.Hough this tactic is absolutely perfect...the original i mean. I can take screenshots but i cba atm, so if anyone requests to see them i will. All you need to know is that i scored 146 goals in the league, won 33 games drew 3 and lost 2. Higuain 121 goals and 78 in the league. Aguero 28 goals and 33 assists Tevez 24 goals and 21 assists Silva 49 assists in 49 games which to me is flipping ridiculous! In every game he played he set up a goal wtf :s Neymar, who i bought mid way into the season scored 16 in 15 appearances and 9 assists. Premier League Winner, Champions League winner (beating barca 3-0 at home and 2-0 away) , League Cup winner and unfortunately lost a 2 goal lead in the FA CUP to chelsea (who is managed by my friend in a network game) - otherwise I would have won everything but still its nothing worth discounting the tactic over! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohann88260 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 News tactic Mr Hough? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted June 26, 2012 Author Share Posted June 26, 2012 Doing a test with Wigan and Hearts, I can already see this new tactic is amazing just from the 2 games i have played with Hearts. I'll keep you all up to date but don't have alot of free time at the miute so testing will take some time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCapone Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 In frist season whit Partizan Belgrade to do FINAL of CL Beat MU Home 0-0 Away 2-2 Beat Real Madrid home 2-1 away 1-1 beat Chelsea Away 0-0 Home 3-1 whit out any singing and lose aginst Barcelona in final 2-1 in extra time i did lead 1-0 and they equliase in 89 minut. So will this tackick come today to wait or finish one more season whit this tackick? Win league 20 points Ahead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohann88260 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 I am thus going to play Call of Duty while waiting for your tactics Mr Hough =) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoerd920 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 @chanty i woud just use Ribéry as onze of THE winger strikers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chanty Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Started for this tactic a new game with Feyenoord, only signs are Erasmus and on loan Petrucci, Great tactic already, giving more feedback when the season is over. And Mr Hough if you want me to test a tactic for you let me know, i can play al day now, because of a injury EDIT indeed what to do in case of a red card? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintage75020 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 what s happen if i receive red wich tweak should i do ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohann88260 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 It can that the tactics is ready this evening Mr Hough? Or are you in the test? =) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoerd920 Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 just won the US open cup with LA. keane has 50 goals in 30 matches. 3/4 of the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuffers007 Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 i have a query. in the team instructions the team are asked to play the ball down both flanks,is this correct? i used this for a short while and the results were not as impressive as others that have used it. i changed it to through the middle and have seen an immediate change. i am now scoring more and conceding less. and its starting to look like i will achieve what other users have!! my query is shall i keep it as original (down both flanks) and hope that it comes good or keep it through the middle???? help please!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuffers007 Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 in reference to the above post. i decided to keep the original for home games and adjust to thru the middle for away games and tough opposition as i tend to concede less goals when playing thru the middle?? first 2 seasons i played rooney in the central role with hernandez and welbeck either side, for the 3rd season i changed and put hernandez as central striker with rooney and hamsik/welbeck on either side. hernandez has been a revelation in this position scoring 61 goals in all comps including 13 hat-tricks!!!! its not even January yet. absolutely love this tactic but i wish i had played hernandez centrally from day one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjoerd920 Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 i have the team to play on varied (sorry i am dutch) just won the mls cup and im in CONCACAF CL quater Finale keane scoored 65 goals in 37 matches so far. David Beckham makes 6 million a year my team pays 10 million a year on total salary. he is 36 now and he doesn't want a contract with less salary.(sorry again) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattycrewefc Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 so is it best to leave the focus passing on both flanks or change 2 through the centre? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuffers007 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 i used both. just finished my 3rd season won everything again!!! hernandez was on fire,love this tactic!!!! 23 hat-tricks for the season, unbelievable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 i used both. just finished my 3rd season won everything again!!! hernandez was on fire,love this tactic!!!! 23 hat-tricks for the season, unbelievable Does this tactic work well with United? Would love to use it with my favourite team! What was your line-up? I just want to know how you used Rooney, Hernandez, Young and Nani together :S Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuffers007 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Does this tactic work well with United? Would love to use it with my favourite team!What was your line-up? I just want to know how you used Rooney, Hernandez, Young and Nani together :S it did eventually it was a little slow to start with but stick with it. i ended up changing team instructions to thru the middle as it seemed to help with the defence. after 2 seasons i felt i had the right players for the tactic so i then played original at home and thru the middle on away days. it seemed to work for me. 1st 2 seasons i played rooney in central role then changed to hernandez for 3rd to devastating effect! i did sell nani as i dont really like him as a player so played hernandez/young and welbeck/berbatov on the outside. i bought hamsik for 3rd season hoping to play him in the str L/R position but didnt do much so i played him in the mc role. below is my 1st eleven for 3rd season what i do struggle with is match preparation. i think for 4th season i will let ass amn do it and see what happens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonarmyadam Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Been using this tactic now for 10 games, i'm in 2017 and have just taken over at Southampton. They were 12th in the Premier League when I took over, since then i've won 8, drawn 2 and lost 0 in all competitions. This includes a 4-3 win away at the current CL winners Tottenham, a 4-2 win away at Stoke, and a 3-3 draw away at Man Utd in the FA Cup. I'm now 7th in the league, and just 2 points off 6th placed Liverpool. Superb tactic Mr Hough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 it did eventually it was a little slow to start with but stick with it. i ended up changing team instructions to thru the middle as it seemed to help with the defence.after 2 seasons i felt i had the right players for the tactic so i then played original at home and thru the middle on away days. it seemed to work for me. 1st 2 seasons i played rooney in central role then changed to hernandez for 3rd to devastating effect! i did sell nani as i dont really like him as a player so played hernandez/young and welbeck/berbatov on the outside. i bought hamsik for 3rd season hoping to play him in the str L/R position but didnt do much so i played him in the mc role. below is my 1st eleven for 3rd season what i do struggle with is match preparation. i think for 4th season i will let ass amn do it and see what happens I always go with attacking movement and ive been using it with a very high workload. During the re-rank period i change to very high teamwork if i can see a dip in performance but then i soon change back to very high att movement after the re-rank period is over! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdixon Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 What's the tactic like in terms of possession? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PequenoGenio Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Cesena from serie A and me, San Marino, from "2º Divisione Girone A" 7 CCC!!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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