Hooligan Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I just prefer to use young player, their capacity is almost the same. ah ok for the DM role who is better marchisio or vidal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted October 27, 2011 Author Share Posted October 27, 2011 ah ok for the DM role who is better marchisio or vidal? Arturo Vidal is better,but his strength isn't very good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 is very good player but he have 11 in strength...thank's zero sea, good night Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted October 27, 2011 Author Share Posted October 27, 2011 Yaya Toure De Rossi Essien are the best DM in my tactic MC are Sneijder and Van der Vaart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spector Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 PL 28 games 25 wins 3 draws 103-29 goal difference! i will post some more pic tomorrow.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleynasdad Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Im assuming DMC and not MC/DMC for DMC training and AMC and not MC/DMC for my MC's training? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucentio Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 I'm now into my second season with this tactic and its not really working for me. I'm Everton and came 7th in the first season (Just) Spent most of the season higher but couldn't get any consistency in the 2nd half of the season. The main issue is that the tactic ships sooooooooooooooooooooooo many goals! My defense is decent with Jagielka and Shawcross but I seem to draw and lose lots of high scoring games. The second season has started in exactly the same fashion. My current team is: Howard Hibbert - Shawcross - Jagielka - Baines DM - Rodwell MC - Afellay AMR - Pandev AML - Drenthe ST - Anelka and Mouche Any ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted October 28, 2011 Author Share Posted October 28, 2011 Im assuming DMC and not MC/DMC for DMC training and AMC and not MC/DMC for my MC's training? Different players are different requirements, you can try them. DM of Defence use "DM def",the others use "MC/DM" My tactic don't need AMC , you can change AMC to MC/AMRL/ST Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted October 28, 2011 Author Share Posted October 28, 2011 I'm now into my second season with this tactic and its not really working for me. I'm Everton and came 7th in the first season (Just) Spent most of the season higher but couldn't get any consistency in the 2nd half of the season. The main issue is that the tactic ships sooooooooooooooooooooooo many goals! My defense is decent with Jagielka and Shawcross but I seem to draw and lose lots of high scoring games. The second season has started in exactly the same fashion. My current team is: Howard Hibbert - Shawcross - Jagielka - Baines DM - Rodwell MC - Afellay AMR - Pandev AML - Drenthe ST - Anelka and Mouche Any ideas? Player Requirements FC/ST: 1.Finishing,Composure; 2.Pace &Acc, Dribbling. STL: a very little better with right foot; STR: a very little better with left foot. AMRL(inside): 1. Pace &Acc, Dribbling; 2. Finishing, Composure.My tactic need AMRL cut inside,so you can also train ST to AMRL. AML:a little better with right foot or either foot; AMR: a little better with left foot or either foot.（You must train your players into position that is at least orange or yellow color. Which is "Awkward" or "Unconvincing") MC: Passing, Creativity, Long shots DM: 1. Strength, Tackling (better learned tackles), Passing, Creativity; 2. Long shots. DRL: 1. Acc &Pace,Tackling; 2. Positioning, Strength. (You can train DR to DL) DC: 1. Jumping ; 2.Acc & Pace , Heading; 3. Positioning, Strength, Tackling GK:1. One On Ones, Reflexes;2. Handling I checked the information of your players, the type of your players are not best for my tactic. You can use my players filter(in my tactic RAR). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucentio Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Player RequirementsFC/ST: 1.Finishing,Composure; 2.Pace &Acc, Dribbling. STL: a very little better with right foot; STR: a very little better with left foot. AMRL(inside): 1. Pace &Acc, Dribbling; 2. Finishing, Composure.My tactic need AMRL cut inside,so you can also train ST to AMRL. AML:a little better with right foot or either foot; AMR: a little better with left foot or either foot.（You must train your players into position that is at least orange or yellow color. Which is "Awkward" or "Unconvincing") MC: Passing, Creativity, Long shots DM: 1. Strength, Tackling (better learned tackles), Passing, Creativity; 2. Long shots. DRL: 1. Acc &Pace,Tackling; 2. Positioning, Strength. (You can train DR to DL) DC: 1. Jumping ; 2.Acc & Pace , Heading; 3. Positioning, Strength, Tackling GK:1. One On Ones, Reflexes;2. Handling I checked the information of your players, the type of your players are not best for my tactic. You can use my players filter(in my tactic RAR). Thanks for the reply. I have been using your filter for the players I have bought in. I have limited funds as Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted October 28, 2011 Author Share Posted October 28, 2011 Team talk is very complex in FM2012, I am working on it. The role of the pre-season friendly is to improve the lot of morale. Then I would like to add. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunovski Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 I switched Tackling to normal, the defense was being too soft. So far it's working well, great tactic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted October 28, 2011 Author Share Posted October 28, 2011 I switched Tackling to normal, the defense was being too soft. So far it's working well, great tactic! This is a good idea, so I will try. I forgot it. I used the tactic is to possession increase by the defense. Although I did a lot of study, but some experience is from FM2011:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share Posted October 29, 2011 I switched Tackling to normal, but 2 Red cards,1 yellow card and 1 penalty in a match! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millwall Charles Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Really good tactic. It's helped me achieve promotion to the Premier League in my first season with Millwall (with no transfer or wage budget to spend at the beginning of the game). Though I haven't been that solid defensively, I've given quite a few teams a thrashing while using it, and it's got my team playing a really entertaining brand of football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizza Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 This is a remarkable tactic. After a run of 6 games without a win in the Conference South, my first season with Carshalton, using a different tactic, out of desperation I changed to using this. With 13 games left, those games brought me 9 wins, 3 draws, 1 defeat (to the league winners, having through away a leading position). The games I didn't win were ones where I failed to close it out, because my players were too tired. In hindsight I appear to have ignored the instructions in the early part of the thread about resting players. If I follow that next season, plus fully gel my side and bring slightly better suited players in, I'm confident I will win the division by a mile. Fair play to you, if you improve this tactic over the course of the various patches etc to come, you'll have a pretty special piece of work! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelo Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Hi Zero Sea, Congratulations, that's a great tactic. The settings are crazy, as is the style of play, but can't argue about the results... and the football it produces is very entertaining. Have you tested the tactic without setting anyone as playmaker and target man? I played a few games that way and it seems to work even better... And have you tried increasing "tempo" and/or "time wasting"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oetjhill Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 I must admit this tactics for attacking is rocks! Thanks for your hard work Zero Sea. It didn't give a lot of possession but it directly going forward to the opponent's gk. In 24 match, I score 86 goals and 32 conceded. I scores at least 3 goals a match, only 2 matches i didn't score 3, i score 2 in that matches. The only concern is defending, it's hard to keep clean sheet. That's make the defence player's rating bad. I ever try to change the match preparation from att mov to none, the defence is getting better, but the attack doesn't give a lot of CCC either. But it still a very good tactics. Well done mates! Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oetjhill Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Some matches: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oetjhill Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Hi Zero Sea,Congratulations, that's a great tactic. The settings are crazy, as is the style of play, but can't argue about the results... and the football it produces is very entertaining. Have you tested the tactic without setting anyone as playmaker and target man? I played a few games that way and it seems to work even better... And have you tried increasing "tempo" and/or "time wasting"? I agree with the idea without setting anyone as playmaker and target man, i'm also doing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share Posted October 29, 2011 I must admit this tactics for attacking is rocks! Thanks for your hard work Zero Sea.It didn't give a lot of possession but it directly going forward to the opponent's gk. In 24 match, I score 86 goals and 32 conceded. I scores at least 3 goals a match, only 2 matches i didn't score 3, i score 2 in that matches. The only concern is defending, it's hard to keep clean sheet. That's make the defence player's rating bad. I ever try to change the match preparation from att mov to none, the defence is getting better, but the attack doesn't give a lot of CCC either. But it still a very good tactics. Well done mates! Uploaded with ImageShack.us about match preparation No matter what the election has a positive effect Just a personal favorite, the best defense is attack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share Posted October 29, 2011 Hi Zero Sea,Congratulations, that's a great tactic. The settings are crazy, as is the style of play, but can't argue about the results... and the football it produces is very entertaining. Have you tested the tactic without setting anyone as playmaker and target man? I played a few games that way and it seems to work even better... And have you tried increasing "tempo" and/or "time wasting"? I agree with the idea without setting anyone as playmaker and target man, i'm also doing it. Of course I tested. I share only the best to you. But my personal capacity is limited, these settings are probably not the best. If your MC is good and set him as playmaker and target man Team will reduce the blind long pass, and MC play is very good. In addition to foul sentenced to a penalty, the MC rarely have disorders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontbanmeimfamous Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 The tactic has not been working for me so well. Usually losing 4-2 with a good defence. However, when I load the tactic it has the target man (centre mid) set to 'run onto ball'. Is this ccorrect? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share Posted October 29, 2011 The tactic has not been working for me so well. Usually losing 4-2 with a good defence. However, when I load the tactic it has the target man (centre mid) set to 'run onto ball'. Is this ccorrect? Yes it's correct This is a small problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oetjhill Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 do you recommend some PPM which will help to give the best result for your tactics? Maybe for Wingers and ST. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share Posted October 29, 2011 do you recommend some PPM which will help to give the best result for your tactics? Maybe for Wingers and ST. You can use my players filte I do not know which is your league level. Preferred Moves? I have not studied, but its role is diminished in FM2012. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanista89 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 a few things to clarify...I still don't exactly understand how to use the tactic in terms of the fool cpu and rotating them...anyone have any suggestions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanista89 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 also, when a player is injured, what kind of training should I be giving him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiaoicy Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Fool cpu mean u rotate ur tactic so the ai cant break into ur tactic so easily. They are basically same tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanista89 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 how often should u do it? and what is the difference between r and no r? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetpack23 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 cant seem to use tactic. have got it saved on my computers download files but cant import it on the tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfnielsen Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Gonna try this baby cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 a few things to clarify...I still don't exactly understand how to use the tactic in terms of the fool cpu and rotating them...anyone have any suggestions? The Effect of "Fool CPU" formation: It is about the same as normal formation, just that it is use for rotating with the normal formation, so as to prevent the AI from getting used to your tactics. When you keep using the same old tactic for a long time, the effect will greatly decrease. Method: Only when normal tactic is fully trained, then you add in "Fool CPU", and when both of them are fully trained, you can then rotate both tactics. also, when a player is injured, what kind of training should I be giving him? Do not need to control his training how often should u do it? and what is the difference between r and no r? Tactic with "R" suffix means place your MC who use left leg to the right side, advantage to long shot and direct pass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelo Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Finished a season with Chelsea using this tactic. Not bad at all. League table: Squad stats: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcelo Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 I switched Tackling to normal, the defense was being too soft. So far it's working well, great tactic! This is a good idea, so I will try. I forgot it.I used the tactic is to possession increase by the defense. Although I did a lot of study, but some experience is from FM2011:D I switched Tackling to normal, but 2 Red cards,1 yellow card and 1 penalty in a match! After one entire season using your tactic, I got only 22 yellow cards, against 43 of the second lowest team. Perhaps tackling could be increased, at least for some players. The second thing I notice is I have been a lot more successful with this tactic if I use no target men and no playmaker? could be just me but I will keep testing. I agree with the idea without setting anyone as playmaker and target man, i'm also doing it. I think the tactic really worked better without setting anyone as playmaker/target man, but would like to hear other people opinions on this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 My MC seems to play better when he's set as playmaker and target man. He scores some surprising goals by charging up the field and cutting in between the strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atommo75 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 My fav tactic so far unbeaten in 11 with spurs 11 wins great stuff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetpack23 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 really wanna get this tactic but cant seem to import it into to my tactis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 After one entire season using your tactic, I got only 22 yellow cards, against 43 of the second lowest team. Perhaps tackling could be increased, at least for some players.I think the tactic really worked better without setting anyone as playmaker/target man, but would like to hear other people opinions on this. My MC seems to play better when he's set as playmaker and target man. He scores some surprising goals by charging up the field and cutting in between the strikers. My MC if set that,he can hardly play bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiaoicy Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 really wanna get this tactic but cant seem to import it into to my tactis Hi did u unzip the file yet? If no, go dl a winrar or winzip to unzip it first. If u already unzip it, go to my document and under sport interactive folder and under tactic folder n place it inside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arron52 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Hi did u unzip the file yet? If no, go dl a winrar or winzip to unzip it first. If u already unzip it, go to my document and under sport interactive folder and under tactic folder n place it inside. then go to archived tactics (on your tactics screen) and it will be there . Zero sea , i used your tactics on FM 11 with great effect , so when i get fm12 i will be using it again , keep up the good work dude ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetpack23 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 its in my list of downloads with my other tactics but its a rar file not a tac file Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 its in my list of downloads with my other tactics but its a rar file not a tac file If you do not have unzip software,you can use a free unzip software -- 7-zip http://www.7-zip.org Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arron52 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 you must unrar it first using winrar , grab it here http://www.rarlab.com/ make sure you get the correct version for your operating system (ie 32bit or 64 bit ) install it then extact the rar file Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetpack23 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 cheers finally done it. is there a reason it has got a c next to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gulp1502 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Guys Sorry for being daft but where on this version do i set playmakers and targetmen on the tactics screen.I cant find it Thanks Gulp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 GuysSorry for being daft but where on this version do i set playmakers and targetmen on the tactics screen.I cant find it Thanks Gulp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gulp1502 Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Thanks mate I must be going blind in my old age . cheers Gulp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Sea Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 Thanks mateI must be going blind in my old age . cheers Gulp No SI change the tactic interface in FM2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serek Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 I wonder if we get a "what's the difference between tactic with R and without" and "how do I set up target man or playmaker" on every page of this thread? That first question was on pretty much every page last year IIRC. Haha. Going well so far! ...yes I had no idea how to set up TM/playmaker myself, but it was explained on page 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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