knap Posted May 1, 2011 Author Share Posted May 1, 2011 Preveza I have nothing against the TC. In fact I was asked for a TC Plug and Play 4231 and I duly obliged. TC tactics can easily be used as plug and play. The problem with the TC, is that as tactics they do not produce the optimum results when I test them. I have been testing these type of tactics and shouts since FM07, but they are just not of a high enough standard to release as a tactic. Can you send me the TC tactic you are using with Crewe or just your game and I will have a look for myself. Oddly I used to support Spurs and Crewe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 2, 2011 Author Share Posted May 2, 2011 Preveza This is a 442 Plug and Play pure Tactics Creator tactic (no changes whatsoever). Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Better then the rock 442 knap? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukepat Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 knap please could you put a new clasic 4231 wide up please link is broken Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 3, 2011 Author Share Posted May 3, 2011 Its probably on my old laptop so may take a little while to find. The TC 4231 link is still OK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 4, 2011 Author Share Posted May 4, 2011 lukepat This is the 4231 Wide classic tactic which is based on the TC tactic. http://www.mediafire.com/?di1roqk3vw740yv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
...Eternal Sin... Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 can you give me some tactic that suite my Juve team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Knap have any other 442's going that are better then the current ones? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 4, 2011 Author Share Posted May 4, 2011 Preveza I'm doing OK with the Rock and TBH the TC 442 just does not visually please the eye. I do have another 442 but short of time atm. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Knap The last few tactics that you have released haven't really been that successful for me, but I'm glad they work for you. Still those results above look immense! Will try out your next tactic with my Chelsea team when released. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 4, 2011 Author Share Posted May 4, 2011 Steve I've been trying to buy the young English talent to see how they progress with Chelsea . I've only just bought Walker from Wolves as despite having a transfer budget they don't want to join Chelsea from other major clubs. Have you found a good 442? or are you using other formations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 The best 2 tactics I've found were both made by JP Woody, the first 1 was 11.2 high scoring 424 which was amazing! Then the other is his Brian Cloug 442, which is over on the Fmbase forum. Every other tactic I have tried has been pretty poor, unfortunately. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 I am now using an updated flat 442 Rock tactic, but playing wide. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Knap would like if you could test with a lower league team aswell. IMO, a half decent tactic can be top with Chelsea. Your tactics are my favorite without a doubt, but just putting it out there I could test this updated version in the lower leagues if you like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
...Eternal Sin... Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 i can test this on my juve save Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 I am using a standard pitch at the moment and the tactic is using more width and playing the ball down the flanks. I use the Tic Tac tactic as a SUS and Brobs as a down to 10. http://www.mediafire.com/?m5pi2t1g91ozw5b Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Knap Is this new tactic the same as before, with the MCR being the more defensive and the STR being the target man? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 Steve Yes I still set up that way so Lampard MCL and Essien MCR and for me Aguero/Sturridge STL and Torres STR. Kalou I use at LM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 Half century for this tactic Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 Aguero makes a 10.0 Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamatez Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 hey knap, good night, im excited to try your work, im with Sporting de Portugal atm, watching your work on Chelsea, could you say or give the tactics that you use for base, for control and to try the goal, and if you have some advice for Sporting i would accept (btw am at january and in 3rd place, im in a run of wins and draws, not very good lol, but i can still catch benfica and porto ;p) Thanks. Anjo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Knap using the updated Rock 442 with Crystal Palace. Expected to finish 22nd. After 12 games, I am sitting 2nd! Great so far, with basically the default squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 7, 2011 Author Share Posted May 7, 2011 Kamatez I use a single philosphy style and I theerfore trust the tactic and players to try the goal. I do not see a need to change tactics. A good example was a match I played last night. In a 2nd leg game I went down early 3-0 against MU but after a half time team talk of disappointed the team made a comeback without changing players or tactics. Change for change sake is not a good idea. In big games or against top quality teams, if I remember, I use a Shut up Shop tactic which is the Tic Tac Tactic on this forum. If I get a player sent off I use Brobs tactic removing the left MC and leave 3 up front. The Latest tactic does use width and looks to spread play to wingers. The prevoius rock tactic is a narrow tactic but both are flat 442. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan99 Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 KamatezI use a single philosphy style and I theerfore trust the tactic and players to try the goal. I do not see a need to change tactics. A good example was a match I played last night. In a 2nd leg game I went down early 3-0 against MU but after a half time team talk of disappointed the team made a comeback without changing players or tactics. Change for change sake is not a good idea. In big games or against top quality teams, if I remember, I use a Shut up Shop tactic which is the Tic Tac Tactic on this forum. If I get a player sent off I use Brobs tactic removing the left MC and leave 3 up front. The Latest tactic does use width and looks to spread play to wingers. The prevoius rock tactic is a narrow tactic but both are flat 442. Which version of the Tic Tac tactic do you use? Going to give The Rock a go with Newcastle, so I might need a SUS tactic quite a bit! Signed Ola Toivonen to play the left sided striker role (more of a deep lying striker yes?) and Gamerio to play the other role. Tiote & Barton in the middle, with Lee Chung-Yong on the right, and Ben Arfa on the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Knap finished 5th with Crystal Palace and lost in the playoffs. Great season considering I had an average squad. One question though. Where do I put the better finisher or poacher, and where does the creator or DLF go? And if your working on an even better 442, cant imagine how good it would be mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Which version of the Tic Tac tactic do you use? Going to give The Rock a go with Newcastle, so I might need a SUS tactic quite a bit! Signed Ola Toivonen to play the left sided striker role (more of a deep lying striker yes?) and Gamerio to play the other role. Tiote & Barton in the middle, with Lee Chung-Yong on the right, and Ben Arfa on the left. Mate, when I want to SUS, I put my FB's on forward runs rarely, and same applies to the wingers. I also increase time wasting and mentality. Seems to do the trick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 7, 2011 Author Share Posted May 7, 2011 Preveza With forwards I will change them around, up front is flexible. I have a choice of 6 forwards and mix and match all season depending upon injuries or needing a rest. That's my usual type of SUS although I prefer to keep winger runs for an outlet and is probably my preference, but just wanted to try another idea. Have you tried the post 213 SUS? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 havent tried it as yet Knap, but will download it now and definitely use it when I want to hold a lead, preferably used after 70ish mins or so. Loving the latest 442 mate. Starting second season now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan108616 Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 knap starting a new save with portsmouth could you recommend what tactics to use ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 knap starting a new save with portsmouth could you recommend what tactics to use ? Tactic in post 266 mate. Using this with Crystal Palace and its doing great. All you need to do is buy good players and let the tactic do the rest. Also hire a quality Assman to do the teamtalks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 7, 2011 Author Share Posted May 7, 2011 I've added latest tactic in post 1 (same as post266 tactic) and its tested with a standard pitch size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Tactic is looking great mate. Great work. Legend!! Cant wait to see an improved version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Knap Using the new 442 and have to say results so far have been amazing: Have been using it Plug and Play, not used any of the other tactics, I know you use tic tak to see out a game, but I will wait until you release a SUS for this 442 The only negative thing about this tactic is that the opposition often create alot of chances, and keep alot of possession, oh and I would like to see the right centre back scoring more goals from corners, then it would feel alot more like the old Oxford tactic from FM08. Do you leave match prep to assistant? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 7, 2011 Author Share Posted May 7, 2011 Matcch prep assistant but I am now using the training that Brobs has posted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YBK Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 PrevezaWith forwards I will change them around, up front is flexible. I have a choice of 6 forwards and mix and match all season depending upon injuries or needing a rest. That's my usual type of SUS although I prefer to keep winger runs for an outlet and is probably my preference, but just wanted to try another idea. Have you tried the post 213 SUS? What is SUS? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 What is SUS? Shut up shop and I believe that tactic is in post 213. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share Posted May 8, 2011 Set up last night - Typical 442 SUS or control tactic http://www.mediafire.com/?a2nbx3hglufpl9z Typical 451 SUS or Contol tactic http://www.mediafire.com/?la2zhkok0vygpvz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Knap Loving the latest 442 mate. I have two queries however. The STR has forward runs and run with ball to often I believe, whilst the STL doesnt. Does the suggest I put my little man, or poacher on the right, and the more creative striker and hard working one on the left? And secondly, do you have a tactic that we could use when needing a goal or two quickly? Atm, I simply reduce time wasting to max rarely, and increase runs on my fullbacks and that seems to do the trick Look forward to yet another update Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooney_08 Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Palace are going up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 Palace are going up We are going up, we are going up!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 8, 2011 Author Share Posted May 8, 2011 Forwards are trial and error but starting line up and, I seldom change, I would use Aguero or Sturridge on left. Torres has been injured for a few months so I used Sturridge on left and Aguero on right. With England I use Rooney on left and Carroll on right. Players knowing a system or style of play is IMO more important than constant changes so I just let the team if determined make the comeback. Your idea is a good one and worth trying if you feel the need . I will try to set a get a goal tactic up but opportunities to test are very limited as I don't really need such a tactic. I've tried TC overload and defensive tactics but TBH they are pants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 I cant believe this. I know this is a big call, but this is my BIGGEST result in the history of FM/CM. Was astonished really. The key: Morale, and team chemistry. Dont overbuy, and keep a similar squad together and you will dominate. Sanogo and Villalva both on loan so will struggle in the EPL if i dont buy similar players. Love FM again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Typo. Sorry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 Even with 10 Aguero can score a 10.0 rating Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan99 Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 Do you have something against Leicester? You've put 14 past them in two games! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 Nothing against Leicester Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Knap Using your new tactic with Lyon still, and was wondering where you would play Lisandro Lopez (left striker or right striker)? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 Steve I am actually trying a reverse set up with Torres left and Aguero right. However I have a newgen and just bought Harry Kane both AM/STs. I called Kane up for England and played him on left and he delievered a Hat Trick and my newgen scores well from left slot. I am very flexible up front and basically if not scoring will change them around before thinking about a sub. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artze Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Nothing against Leicester Uploaded with ImageShack.us Which a tactic ? Link tactic please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 Latest Flat 442 in post 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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