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  1. There’s a great thread on here titled ‘Making good decisions during matches’ give that a read in short, the OP (forgotten his name) makes changes based on what he sees. For example, are you team winning second balls/long balls from goal kicks or from deep? If not, why is that the case? Perhaps your defensive line is too low, or there is not enough pressure on the ball carrier in their own half... could be a combination of both. Another example could be your full-back is continually getting destroyed by the opposition’s winger; it could be a physical mismatch, or perhaps his starting position is too deep and allows the winger to build ahead of steam. The majority of tweaks we can/should make our basic ones, but it requires knowledge of your system and a tiny analysis of what the opposition are trying to do.
  2. I’m going to disagree with the general consensus on this thread; personally I don’t think there’s much wrong with your tactic at all. Arguably it could be toned down a tad, with the removal of the overlaps (considering you’re using two CWBs) and lowering the tempo and/or more direct passing. However, your aim is clearly to play direct football which is perfectly fine, and you want to generate these 1v1 opportunities for your strikers, but there is a known ME issue with these types of opportunities. Not all CCCs are all that clear, but if you’ve created 9 of them I’m sure at least 3/4 should be buried. Conversion rates for these types of chances are generally off, and that’s affecting your tactic.
  3. Any thoughts on the inverted winger? Personally I think it’s a little more passive than I was expecting, especially in regards to dribbling with the ball, although it works really well when creating overloads and plays some nice through balls from out-wide.
  4. Honestly, I haven’t seen any real improvements to the ME since the full release. 1v1s appear to be a bit less common, but the increase in conversion hasn’t followed suit. End product in general seems to be off; decision making, shots from wide angles etc, are all still quite apparent. I’ve seen some woeful - and I mean woeful - attempts at striking the football. I don’t know whether this is a realism addition as players do miss-hit the ball IRL, but it seems too common.
  5. I agree with ED here; I think your TIs are too aggressive both in possession (much shorter passing + much lower tempo) and out of it (much higher d-line, LOE & extremely urgent pressing) but even more importantly, I don’t think it suits the Newcastle squad. Joelington is an excellent TM and Almiron would be lethal combining with him in a counter-attacking based system. However you are 7th in the league, so it must be working! But that’s the direction I would go in.
  6. The only glaring issue for me is your left flank; Both the IW and the FB are looking to make forward runs, and the BBM will also look to get up in support later on during moves. All of the above would require your LCB to be super human I’d look to either: change the FB from support to attack, or make the BBM a Carrilero/CM-D so that he covers for the FB when he goes to attack.
  7. Hi mate, I can’t see any of these pictures... is this intentional?
  8. I have seen this a lot! Thought it could be my tactics, and maybe still is... but nice to know I’m not the only one experiencing this. Playing a 343 and my most common end to a move is: WB + IW circulate the ball between them —> WB feeds the IW who has moved inside, who then plays the ball to the edge of the box for the ball-side CM to have a pop at goal. I do appreciate SI have tried to reduce the number of block crosses which were a pain last year, but I think the balance is slightly off.
  9. Looking forward to this! Do you have the links to the sources you have/will be using to create the tactic? I’m looking for inspiration with United So May attempt this myself
  10. Hi guys, wasn’t sure where to post this so thought i’d comment in here. I’ve just installed FM20 but a folder hasn’t been created within the ‘Sports Interactive’ folder... not quite sure what to do, any else had this problem?
  11. Hi all, I was going to start a thread to discuss my tactic, but seeing as its a 4231 I thought it made sense to talk about it in here. So for my last save on FM, I decided to start up with Norwich and roughly try and play their exciting attacking football we've seen from them IRL. Here is the tactic: We're not doing too badly in the league all things considered, sitting in 14th currently which I think is respectable, but there is scope for improvement (as always). Going forward we've been decent: 6th in the league for goals scored, 3rd for chances created, 7th for SoT % and 2nd for average possession. We do seem a little reliant on balls from the Treq to the Poacher, but I can't complain. However, defensively we are poor. Currently sitting in 19th for goals conceded, and 3rd for yellow cards, which tells me that we're being stretched and having to make fouls. To me the tactic seems balanced, the press isn't overly aggressive nor is the defensive line, but yet we still concede lots of goals. Is there anything i'm missing that can be improved upon? Perhaps my players just aren't good enough to play this formation? Thanks!
  12. Your selection of roles and duties look okay to me, but they’re at odds with the TIs you’ve selected as others have mentioned. I think you need to decide what style of play you want, as it seems you’re caught in two minds. Out of possession: Way, way too extreme! You’re pinning opponents back so much that there’s little space for your front 4 who are very advanced. To me, the success of your tactic relies on getting the ball to the W-A quickly so he can cross for the Poacher, but with the extreme press this is unlikely to happen. In possession: The use of ‘play out of defence’ and ‘shorter passing’ will slow your transitions down, allowing the opponent to get set and limit space for your front four. Solutions: If you want a more possession-based style of play, i’d change some of the roles and duties to encourage more combinations and patience. If you prefer direct style, i’d: Change your line of engagement to standard, change d-line to standard (or higher), remove ‘Play out of defence’, remove counter press etc.
  13. It kind of does limit through balls though. It literally tells players to work the ball into the box, passing it around until the chance for a through ball/pass opens up.
  14. Perhaps a front three combination of IF-S, DLF-A/PF-A, and T-A could work well. I saw Neymar as more of a creator than a goal scorer, and Suarez was definitely the spearhead in attack. Having the IF-S on the left would allow Alba to bomb on like he did IRL too.
  15. Work ball into box, whilst it does reduce long shots, isn’t solely concerned with doing so. It’s about patience; making the extra pass instead of trying a cross, through ball or indeed a shot. Conversely, counter-attacking tactics are anything but patient, whilst possession systems are all about it. That’s why (I believe) it is more suited to possession systems than counter ones, but that isn’t to say it can’t work. If we relate this to the OP’s tactic, he’s using the counter mentality which sets defenders to (more) direct passing, and forwards to short(er) passing, couple this with WBIB and you will get fairly passive play in the final third.
  16. It is a bit contradictory though, as you’re telling your players to get the ball forward quickly, but then wait for support (and for the defence to get back) before attempting to create a chance. WBIB is an instruction i’d use for a possession tactic used on a higher mentality to induce some more patience, but for a counter attacking tactic I don’t think it’s that suitable.
  17. Planning any more updates on this mate? Great read
  18. But we must remember that formations in FM represent your defensive shape, so whilst Atleti’s Attacking shape resembles that of a narrow 433, their formation (in FM) should be a 442, as that’s how they defend. You can easily get a 442 to transition to this narrow 433 in attack with the right roles and duties.
  19. Personally I think this thread demonstrates 1. A balanced and intelligent selection of roles and duties, which enabled the team to function greater than the sum of its parts and 2. Accounting for player attributes when thinking of what role to pick for a player. @Rashidi has always said, attributes are king in this game, and this is a perfect example of it. A great balancing act. On the other hand, I’m not quite sure how much light it sheds on the effectiveness of team shouts, but it’s definitely something to think about. I am sure that goals were scored when they wouldn’t have been had the team not been ‘shouted at’, as sometimes all that is needed is a good kick up the a**. Interesting thread Herne
  20. I think he meant centre-forward, so DLF in this case, not complete forward
  21. Great thread as always Westy. I think the most interesting aspect is keeping playing style the same... I think most people when trying to adapt to the opposition mainly alter their style, to either take advantage of space in behind or limit their own, but this is a very different way and I’m liking it
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