peter-evo Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Alan... that was vile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I genuinely didn't mean that, was just a terrible coincidental choice of words :o Back on topic - peter, when are you going to start working on the wiki again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrithral Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 FYI there are some very good league guides, especially of obscure leagues, on FM Britain. They would come in handy for people who like to play with weird leagues or teams, perhaps you should ask them if you can use some of their stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 FYI there are some very good league guides, especially of obscure leagues, on FM Britain. They would come in handy for people who like to play with weird leagues or teams, perhaps you should ask them if you can use some of their stuff. Cool. I shall get in contact Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrithral Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Link to FM Britain League Guides Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Those guides are excellent! I doubt we'll get permission to use them though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Those guides are excellent! I doubt we'll get permission to use them though. Worth a try Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrithral Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Reword them and Bob's your sister, i'm pretty sure they have basically reworded wiki descriptions anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Certainly is. Go and do your best to get permission mr representative! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrithral Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I'll happily write new ones if you wish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Certainly is. Go and do your best to get permission mr representative! I have wrote a post in their forums. May well get closed but I am hoping for a response. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I'll happily write new ones if you wish. I'd really appreciate it if you're willing to do some work for us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrithral Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I'd really appreciate it if you're willing to do some work for us What's the pay like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 What's the pay like? I am hoping for a good response over there to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I have wrote a post in their forums. May well get closed but I am hoping for a response. Yeah, most likely will be closed - I think it probably wouldve been best if you emailed their webmaster and kept it private, but sure we can't change it now. Link? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Yeah, most likely will be closed - I think it probably wouldve been best if you emailed their webmaster and kept it private, but sure we can't change it now. Link? Their main site is down as that is what I originally planned to do. http://www.fm-britain.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=9648&pid=144303&st=0entry144303 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 What's the pay like? Your starting pay will be the exact same as mine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elrithral Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I'll add what I have done, when I get the chance. Edit: FM Britain have said it's ok to use their guides so that's a lot less work for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Great news that. Who wants to add them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I'll add some happily, but am not a member of FMBritain so can't get them directly off there. Any other way you know, or will I have to sign up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I'll add some happily, but am not a member of FMBritain so can't get them directly off there. Any other way you know, or will I have to sign up? Just sign up. That's fantastic news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Hmm, it won't let me register. Says the email address you used is not accepted by this board. Please select a different email address. It's a hotmail.com adress, is that why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I can put it on the wiki if you like jammy. Also, I think we all need to discuss the format of club guides. I got rid of some of the headers to make it look like wikipedia style intros a few days back, but I'm now thinking maybe we should come up with a new structure. What are your opinions on this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 It'd be great if you could, if not then i'm sure others would be able to do them. What sort of format are you suggesting? When I made them I made them as similar as I could, depending on what was in each guide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Anything that stops the index from being the first think you see on the page, with the intro above it. That's what I've done, but then the index looks a bit messy. What do you think yourself? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Yeah, I kind of see what you mean. The real life information bit now isn't very easy to see, and the index looks a bit lost. I'm not really sure how it could be changed, but it could be better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Might as well explain it clearer in case some of you don't get me (not aimed at you jammy fwiw, I think you know what I'm on about. Man Utd Page Chelsea page Now, out of those two examples, which do you prefer? My problem with the Chelsea article is that it looks very bare without an introduction. I feel that the nickname, location etc should be put above the index - re-worded & with a bit more information included. What do you all think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Might as well explain it clearer in case some of you don't get me (not aimed at you jammy fwiw, I think you know what I'm on about.Man Utd Page Chelsea page Now, out of those two examples, which do you prefer? My problem with the Chelsea article is that it looks very bare without an introduction. I feel that the nickname, location etc should be put above the index - re-worded & with a bit more information included. What do you all think? Yes, I agree that the Utd article looks better. But about 1/10 of articles have a reasonable amount of intro, so on the majority it would just be a sentence or two on the top of the page. It would be pointless having that, as it would be missed half the time. Look at the Liverpool Page for example. The real life information is a couple of lines, not including the peice about former managers (which I don't think is really needed, may delete it if no one minds). Yes, it will be a bit of an introduction. But in my opinion it would look a little ridiculous having one or two lines. A paragraph is needed minimum, and that is a lot of work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactus Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Looking at setting up a dedicated Football Manager wiki site, to cover all incarnations of the game and provide a basis of information for people to refer too, with everything from tactics to patches.Anybody else interesting in helping support this project? http://www.footballmanagerwiki.co.uk/index.php?title=Main_Page o rly nice to see my advice taken on board layout is great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 o rlynice to see my advice taken on board layout is great Glad you like it mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 o rlynice to see my advice taken on board layout is great I don't really understand what you mean by this post, could you explain please? And also, I assume o rly is text speak not a bunch of random letters. I have no idea what it means, and I'm sure others wouldn't either, so try and refrain from text talk in future posts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Yes, I agree that the Utd article looks better. But about 1/10 of articles have a reasonable amount of intro, so on the majority it would just be a sentence or two on the top of the page. It would be pointless having that, as it would be missed half the time. Look at the Liverpool Page for example. The real life information is a couple of lines, not including the peice about former managers (which I don't think is really needed, may delete it if no one minds). Yes, it will be a bit of an introduction. But in my opinion it would look a little ridiculous having one or two lines. A paragraph is needed minimum, and that is a lot of work. I know what you mean. I think I'll have a scan through the club guides and mark all of those without proper introductions as stubs. I'll then list out all the stubs later on tonight o rlynice to see my advice taken on board layout is great Cheers Galactus. I don't really understand what you mean by this post, could you explain please?And also, I assume o rly is text speak not a bunch of random letters. I have no idea what it means, and I'm sure others wouldn't either, so try and refrain from text talk in future posts. O rly = Oh really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactus Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Is this openly editable? I want to try beef up this wiki. Also is there a set/layout I should follow in order to maintain consistency in the articles appearance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Is this openly editable?I want to try beef up this wiki. You'll need to register to edit. Mainly down to some people spamming our pages earlier Welcome anyway Galactus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactus Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I'm going to try get a SPL bit done also see my edit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Is this openly editable?I want to try beef up this wiki. Also is there a set/layout I should follow in order to maintain consistency in the articles appearance? Well, we don't have any general guide written up (which reminds me, I really have to get around to doing that). Just try to follow the general layout of most of the other articles for now But for club guides, this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Club Guides *Not too serious, just missing introductions for most AJ Auxerre Cherbourg Doncaster Rovers FC Porto Fulham Getafe Hull City Inverness Caledonian Thistle LA Galaxy Liverpool Luton Town Man City PSV Panathinaikos Preston North End Real Madrid Redditch Southampton Stockport Stoke City Valencia Nation Guides Canada Holland Mexico Russia USA Player Profiles Anatoli Todorov Landon Donovan Gameplay Bosman Transfers Manager Options Training Facilities Graphics & Skinning Graphics Packs Skins Editing Database Editor How to add your own regen (Doesn't explain how to add the regen at all) Miscellaneous Championship Manager Sports Interactive Empty Pages Chicago Fire Chivas USA Colorado Rapids Columbus Crew DC United FC Dallas Houston Dynamo New England Revolution New York Red Bulls Kansas City Wizards San Jose Earthquakes Toronto FC Dani Aquino Coaches Physios Yeah, so this is how we stand at the moment. Most of these that I've listed (in particular the club guides) have quite a lot of information. It's just that they're missing that extra bit of information that would make them feel complete imo. Just to let anyone that has any knowledge on these subjects know This has been posted in a seperate topic in the wiki forum as well. I think we need to do something to make the club guide template stand out more - maybe put it on the front page? Maybe it's time to replace the 'why we set this up' part. Also, I'm going to write up a general guide to making wiki pages. One last reminder - don't be afraid to add/remove stub tags from pages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I think I'm responsible for most of the MLS club pages. I just need to time enough time to write them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I think I'm responsible for most of the MLS club pages. I just need to time enough time to write them. Hey no worries, just do them when you have the time mate. And of course when you feel like doing them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I'll do the Manager options page now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I'll do the Manager options page now. Good stuff. I'm adding the FM-Britain articles now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Good stuff. I'm adding the FM-Britain articles now I've done the article as much as I can. It doesn't look like it's much there, but it has everything in it and there is nothing else I can add to it without making it waffle. If you think anything else needs to be added either do it yourself or tell me and I'll do it:thup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 It's one of those topics where there isn't a lot to be said. I don't think there's much else to be added Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 FM-Britain management said we can use any of the Lower League articles as long as there is a reference to the creator AND a link to the original. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 FM-Britain management said we can use any of the Lower League articles as long as there is a reference to the creator AND a link to the original. Fair enough, I've already given credit to the creator, so now I'll link to the article Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 It's one of those topics where there isn't a lot to be said. I don't think there's much else to be added Thats what I thought, which is why I removed the stub tag. FM-Britain management said we can use any of the Lower League articles as long as there is a reference to the creator AND a link to the original. So could we use a disclaimer, like in the club guides? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Thats what I thought, which is why I removed the stub tag.So could we use a disclaimer, like in the club guides? Yes, just with the name of the creator and a link to the article Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 In the Database Editor article, why is the FMRTE link there? Thats not about database editor, thats a save game editor I think. I realise it mentions FMRTE, but imo it would be best to create a save game editor page and link to it in there. Linking to FMRTE in the database editor page could cause confusion imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 In the Database Editor article, why is the FMRTE link there? Thats not about database editor, thats a save game editor I think.I realise it mentions FMRTE, but imo it would be best to create a save game editor page and link to it in there. Linking to FMRTE in the database editor page could cause confusion imo. That's my mistake, fixed now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal_2111 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 That's my mistake, fixed now. Not really a mistake, but ok then I've made a few changes to that article, do you think it's ready to have the Stub tag taken off? I'm not sure how much more could be put in. http://www.footballmanagerwiki.co.uk/index.php?title=Database_Editor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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