grep Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 I understand that a players on upper leauges don't want to join, that's quite fair , but players of my same league behave the same and also the lower leagues players do the same ! How am I supposed to improve if even players of the league below mine don't want to join ? Ahahaha example : a player earns 2.500 euros per month, I offer him 10.000 euros per motnh and an automatic promotion to the league above....no way..I'm an idiot but I like to collect mushrooms here just to see you suffering, the dude tells me. This happend lot of times. Is there even a tiny chance a LLM can improve or the game force you to never improve cause of internal routines ? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Try search for "realistic targets" using the player search. It is definately possible, but at all levels, there comes a point where your rep isn't high enough to attract players good enough to improve the rep. You've just got to fine tune the tactics and do well enough to improve the rep to get a slightly better quality of player in to improve performances to increase the rep. And so forth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Girondins Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 I thought this was a thread about Paradox Interactive .. was about to get all nostalgic about Crusader Kings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grep Posted December 8, 2008 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 Try search for "realistic targets" using the player search. OMG Such option is of course ALWAYS turned on, despiting that , I am only able to attract strikers with max 3 of finishing , midfielders with max 6 of passing and defenders with 5-8 of tackling. Any hints plz ? P.S. I am gettin rid of Swindon town once for ever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_igorini Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Dude When the whole world in the game is against you as a LLM then turn the world upside down. That's what I do...You can only be told "living in a dreamland" or "so and so Snubs you" for so many times before you blow a gasket. What I do is open up the editor and solve the world's financial and economic woes by making multibillion dollar enterprises and russian billionaire's toys out of reality's "minnows" such as wigan, wba, charlton athletic, sunderland, sporting gijon, braga fc, slovan liberec, hajduk split, anorthosis etc. In summary all no namers become the cream of the crop and its incredible to see a champions league final between sunderland and Hajduk split...haha. Reality is overrated...I'm sick of reality that's why I play a game of fantasy...To each his own find what works for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suge Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Welcome to the World of LLM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grep Posted December 8, 2008 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 I think that's not LL , it is simply a matter of which LL team is being taken. I see for instance that few League 1 teams are waaaaaayyyyyy more rich than poor Swindon. I am now seeing teams with several players valued zilions and zilions inside League 1 ( Colchester, Milwall, Leeds, Leichster etc.. ) ... Playing LL with those teams it seems to me a Sunday pic-nic Playing with Swindon it's nightmare Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suge Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 I wouldn't even class League One as LLM. I'm talking about newly-promoted BSQ South/North teams who have a ground capacity of 50 ad no backroom staff. That is hardcore LLM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiltman Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Is there even a tiny chance a LLM can improve or the game force you to never improve cause of internal routines ? Every team has a (hidden) reputation. Low team reputation is what stops the signings. It'l grow slowly as you win. Slowly. Very slowly. Expect many seasons in agony. Easier to take on a "well known" LL club with higher reputation. Use editor to locate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grep Posted December 8, 2008 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 The issue is that I don't have fan while cheating, so I'm trying to shape the whole matter before deciding which is the way that could give me fun. Hard choice BTW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grep Posted December 8, 2008 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 Try search for "realistic targets" using the player search.It is definately possible, but at all levels, there comes a point where your rep isn't high enough to attract players good enough to improve the rep. You've just got to fine tune the tactics and do well enough to improve the rep to get a slightly better quality of player in to improve performances to increase the rep. And so forth. I wouldn't even class League One as LLM. I'm talking about newly-promoted BSQ South/North teams who have a ground capacity of 50 ad no backroom staff. That is hardcore LLM. I hear you. The issue is that if you are disallowed to improve for the above mentioned reasons it is quite frustrating see that despiting your efforts and results you will always finish the season at the bottom of the table. IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Agalloch_ Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Try foreign countries for gems. It's how I've managed to progress with an LLM team for the past couple of FM's and this version seems no different. Just bought a few myself! Best bets: N. Ireland Ireland Slovakia Slovenia Hungary Scandinavian countries Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grep Posted December 8, 2008 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 Are those coutries under the WP axe ? Every single time a WP permit is involved I broke a key on my keyboard. I just wanna stay on the safe side this time,plz. In addition you must turn them on before starting and I am quite out of pc resources Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Only the UK has work permits, although other countries have foreign player restrictions. The game reflects realism. IRL it IS nigh-on impossible to take broke, rubbish lower league teams to glory - the real challenge is just to survive, and Swindon have been in administration or on the brink of it many times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakobx Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 The game doesnt reflect real life. In real life money is the main factor when it comes to attracting players. In FM its not unusual for a player to reject you offer that is 100x higher than his current wage. In real life this would never happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majkee Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 The game doesnt reflect real life. In real life money is the main factor when it comes to attracting players. In FM its not unusual for a player to reject you offer that is 100x higher than his current wage. In real life this would never happen. We will see in January Barry vs. ManCity and reported several hundred thousands wages offered to him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I played as Swindon in the demo and found them pretty easy to manage. Cox is a goal machine. I had no problem at the end of my first season bringing in some decent talent. And League 1 is no where near LLM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Agalloch_ Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Are those coutries under the WP axe ?Every single time a WP permit is involved I broke a key on my keyboard. I just wanna stay on the safe side this time,plz. In addition you must turn them on before starting and I am quite out of pc resources No work permits are needed for the countries listed except maybe Hungary, I can't quite remember. Also use parent clubs as much as you can if you get stuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I wonder if people don't just miss the point in here. It doesn't matter if L1 is LLM to anyone. I could only understand such comments if this was the LLaMa forum here. The point is that few players would reject a 400 percent wage increase and moving a league up while be happy to stay where they are. It's good that club reputation impacts the players' decisions, but the extent given in here as an example seems unrealistic to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grep Posted December 9, 2008 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 The game doesnt reflect real life. In real life money is the main factor when it comes to attracting players. In FM its not unusual for a player to reject you offer that is 100x higher than his current wage. In real life this would never happen. I think there are smarter ways to to deploy barriers against " cheating " , this is definitely not a realistic way,on the opposite it's a ridicolous one. How many of you would resist to a 400% salary increase and an upper league perspective to remain fidel to a well known drug store ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 How many of you would resist to a 400% salary increase ? I am happy to serve as a test person in an empirical study on that matter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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