Haribo1681 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Hello all! It's been a long time since I posted on these forums - probably around 15 years actually, which tells you that I'm probably too old for FM. Anyway, I'm having a few issues with creating/adjusting tactics to get a side (Borussia Dortmund) playing the way I want. I'm into the fifth season and the team has done well - winning the last three Bundesliga titles - but this seems to be very much despite my tactical choices rather than because of them. I've kept the core of the side but added a couple of other decent players, particularly Timo Werner, Kai Havertz and Eduardo Camavinga. What I want is for Havertz to be the hub of the team, involved heavily in attacks, creating opportunities for the pacy front three of Werner, Julian Brandt and Jadon Sancho, who I want to get in the gaps between FB and CB. I want the team to press high (because most teams play cautiously against me and show little ambition to leave their third of the pitch), then to keep possession when we have it and probe for chances. However, I also want to retain the option of catching teams on the break with the pace of my forwards. Unfortunately, none of this seems to happen anything like consistently - we might do this maybe one game in 5 or 6, then all other follow a predictable pattern: - - the opposition strangle the game by constantly re-cycling possession between their back four and a deep lying playmaker while my forwards chase them round like headless chickens. I frequently see sides in the middle or lower reaches of the table rack up 60-65% possession against me and roughly 700 passes as a team - they often have three players completing over 100 passes. I know this is probably because we're giving them possession too easily when we have it, but I have no idea how to stop either them keeping it so easily or me wasting it so much. - whoever plays as my AM-L will always have a poor game, regardless of who plays there. They will be the first to see their rating drop and regularly will be at 6.3 by half time. I've tried different roles in this area, but I want them to be a threat in the final third. I assume this must be down to other players taking up their space, so I've experimented with different roles in L CM (CMs, BBM, BWMs) and L FB (WBs, FBa, FBs), but it's consistently the same. In an ideal world, I'd like to play Brandt here as IFa and Sancho on the opposite side as IWa as that suits their attributes best IMHO, but that goes against the rules I've read on these forums around roles, duties and distributing them with balance, which is why I use an attacking role on the left (I'd prefer to use a WBa at both full backs to provide support for retaining possession in midfield, but I gather that probably won't work?) - all our chances come from whoever plays on the right beating several players and either crossing to the back post for a header from the AML or a rebound for a tap in by CF. Or a corner. Because the opposition make no attempt to go beyond the half way line, they never create any chances, so eventually we score and we do win more games than we don't, but it feels like I might as well not be managing the team and that my tactics are a hinderance. When we play in Europe we get exposed and go out of the Champions League at the first knockout round normally. Initially I started by playing 4-2-3-1 to get Havertz in the AM slot so he could dictate the game from there, but when I couldn't get enough possession I assumed that it would be down to having too many bodies in the final third, so I switched to 4-3-3 with Havertz operating as an APs from CM. It hasn't really changed anything and most games continue to play out in the same way. So, apologies for the long post. I'm not looking for someone to say: 'change this and win every game', more looking for some guidance to get the team playing vaguely like I'd like and to stop the repeat issue of nullifying my best players. I'm not looking to dominate every game, rack up 70% possession and win each match 6-0, but it'd be nice to feel like I'm actually managing the team and that changes I make have some effect. Many thanks in advance! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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