The Return of the Manchester United Thread v1.3 - The Future Starts Hereâ„¢

deanb291186 · June 21, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ACou2000:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by deanb291186:

still ***** at crosses tho </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ah, so you saw that horrible attempt to cross the ball as well which flew high and wide by about a mile? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ye, great passing movement, they worked the ball wide to gabi who had acres of space and time

wycombe · June 21, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick OGS20:

In addition to the financial implications explained so well on the last page, surely you guys realise the huge difference in real terms between going to matches and buying replica shirts? When you've been going week-in, week-out for years and going to the game is such a huge part of your life, just jacking it in is such a hard thing to do, and I personally feel no shame in admitting I couldn't do that this summer.

Whereas when it comes to buying a shirt, there's no emotional attachment there. In the past, I've sometimes bought a shirt, sometimes (and increasingly so) not. I refuse to believe it's a huge wrench for any fan to go without buying a replica shirt, especially when there are excellent alternatives. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

um, tbh that just strengths it for me, not buying a season ticket would be a much bigger show of your non support for Glazer than not buying something you admit to not caring about.

BBB · June 21, 2005

Wicom, you don't go to games so you have no idea of the dilemma we had/have.

wycombe · June 21, 2005

eh my argument just then was based about the fact its such a dilemma for you?

JulesMUFC · June 21, 2005

http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp/53040061.jpg?x=x&dasi...00D9A9C30E9B9B114CE8

superman esque pose from gabby

Nick OGS20 · June 21, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Wicom:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick OGS20:

In addition to the financial implications explained so well on the last page, surely you guys realise the huge difference in real terms between going to matches and buying replica shirts? When you've been going week-in, week-out for years and going to the game is such a huge part of your life, just jacking it in is such a hard thing to do, and I personally feel no shame in admitting I couldn't do that this summer.

Whereas when it comes to buying a shirt, there's no emotional attachment there. In the past, I've sometimes bought a shirt, sometimes (and increasingly so) not. I refuse to believe it's a huge wrench for any fan to go without buying a replica shirt, especially when there are excellent alternatives. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

um, tbh that just strengths it for me, not buying a season ticket would be a much bigger show of your non support for Glazer than not buying something you admit to not caring about. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Watching a team 'is' supporting the club for a lot of people. I see no reason why they should have to give that up, especially when in all likelihood they'll be replaced by a megastore-shopping numpty. Only 25/30,000 people can get ST's. There's easily enough demand for them. Whereas a couple of thousand less shirts sold is a dent (admittedly a tiny one) in Nike's profits, and puts doubts in their minds when it comes to continuing their association with the club.

And whilst not wanting to get into an 'omg, you don't go to games, you're not a proper fan' argument, it does have to be said that you can't really judge people's decisions to renew unless you have an understanding of what they're facing having to give up.

RedBlood · June 21, 2005

Signings on this page

wycombe · June 21, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick OGS20:

Watching a team 'is' supporting the club for a lot of people. I see no reason why they should have to give that up, especially when in all likelihood they'll be replaced by a megastore-shopping numpty. Only 25/30,000 people can get ST's. There's easily enough demand for them. Whereas a couple of thousand less shirts sold is a dent (admittedly a tiny one) in Nike's profits, and puts doubts in their minds when it comes to continuing their association with the club.

And whilst not wanting to get into an 'omg, you don't go to games, you're not a proper fan' argument, it does have to be said that you can't really judge people's decisions to renew unless you have an understanding of what they're facing having to give up. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

fair enough but you guys are trying to wash your hands of one fact, you are giving money to Glazer. You can dress up the financial arguments all you want, but that's what you are doing. Don't then turn around lecture to people who also want to give money to Glazer, also don't try nd take the moral high ground like stuck up pr*cks and pretend that your way of supporting the club is "better" than how other people like to support the club. It's wrong and immature and ultimately why Glazer is finding it so easy to roll over SU.

BBB · June 21, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Oli Winton, apparently a political consultant and member of the Shareholders United Committee, states on the Shareholders United Members' Discussion forum today that:

"He (Gill) is staying to negotiate the futures of club staff which he feels he has a responsibility to do. remember that a month on Glazer still has not assured any staff of their jobs being safe etc, they are all terrified. I expect Gillwill leave soon after this is settled."

And:

"Gill has always been one of SU's friends who wanted to work with us to set up a trust and is still talking of ways to sort things out long term. I wish he had walked earlier but i do not blame him for not. Greed is not his reasoning at all in my opinion. The bitter, jealously bug from those who do not know him is an easy one to follow, one day the things he did for SU will come out and doubters will eat their words."

Interesting observations. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ericcantona7 · June 21, 2005

I trust Gill, and even if he stays at least it means we'll have someone on our side fighting for us. Better than another of the Glazer family.

Nick OGS20 · June 21, 2005

Is understanding the difference between buying a match ticket/ST and buying a replica shirt really that hard to understand? :/

No-one's happy about giving money to Glazer, but there is understandably only so much some are willing to sacrifice. A piece of tat which no longer even features the words 'Football Club' is something I struggle to believe people can't do without, whereas I completely understand why people don't feel they can sacrifice a season ticket. For some people, those ST's will have been in the family decades.

If people want to buy a shirt, fair enough. It's not a case of getting on the moral high ground, as you put it. I can't stand those who proclaim themselves to be 'redder' than others, and god knows there's enough of them. It's simply a case of having differing views on what constitutes support for the club - not buying a shirt won't effect me in the slightest this season, whereas not going to games would do my head in. I appreciate it's different for others (often not through choice), and I don't believe I've criticised them for that.

If anyone's taking any kind of moral high-ground in here, yourself - with your constant view on what United fans should and shouldn't be doing throughout all this - would seem to be the prime candidate tbf.

wycombe · June 21, 2005

erm, nothing to do with the moral highground, I've just been saying how you're going to have an effect on glazer to an extent that he'll leave the club, boycotting sponsors and not buying replica shirts won't make a jot of difference to him.

I mean yeah I can appreciate you lost the battle for the club when it was PLCed all those years ago and trying to prevent a takeover of this kind was always going to be hard, but there were ways to make a difference but it needed a large number of people to make that difference, for all your protests to the contary not enough ManU fans are bothered enough by Glazer at this moment in time to make a stand and to me thats the battle lost, a lot of what SU are saying is pie in the sky, it won't happen.

Nick OGS20 · June 21, 2005

I don't disagree with that really. There are too many 'wait-and-see' merchants at the minute, but there's not an awful lot that those of us who have decided we don't want Glazer can do now to persuade them. Giving up ST's would just see those wait-and-see merchants snapping them up and there being even less resistance to Big Malc within the match-going support. They're going to have to learn the hard way, when the price rises kick in, transfer budgets dwindle or big Chelsea bids for our star players start getting accepted above the manager's head.

Ryno · June 21, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick OGS20:

Just giving my two cents as I've not been around for a few days. Each to their own, ofc

Got the video btw As I went to hand in my keys as I was moving out, I asked if there were any parcels on the off-chance. Turns out it had been there days - the card to say it was there must have gone AWOL. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ok, fairy nuff.

Thats good to know. Glad you got it, but annoying that it had been there for so long and you didn't even know.

Ryno · June 21, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Wicom:

erm, nothing to do with the moral highground, I've just been saying how you're going to have an effect on glazer to an extent that he'll leave the club, boycotting sponsors and not buying replica shirts won't make a jot of difference to him.

I mean yeah I can appreciate you lost the battle for the club when it was PLCed all those years ago and trying to prevent a takeover of this kind was always going to be hard, but there were ways to make a difference but it needed a large number of people to make that difference, for all your protests to the contary not enough ManU fans are bothered enough by Glazer at this moment in time to make a stand and to me thats the battle lost, a lot of what SU are saying is pie in the sky, it won't happen. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Couldn't really have put it better myself. I totally agree with you (), but each to their own, which is only fair.

Jolly Rancher · June 21, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

At the moment Man United is supported mostly by people who live three miles within the ground and whos fathers and grandfathers already went and knew the players personally, true local civic patriots who cheer on the lads who represent their community.

With American billionaire Malcolm Glazer's takeover however they will be replaced with people from faraway places like the East Midlands, Sussex, the Netherlands or even America. People whos main connection to the club will be replica shirts, sheets and other cheap merchandise purchased in these disgusting entities we call megastores.

Manchester United so far was a successful old-time football club, the type of thing that has become so rare in today's money-driven society. It was like an old brandy, an honest handshake with a good friend, a smile on the face of a child, something to savour indeed. Tycoon Malcolm Glazer threatens to destroy this oh so precious piece of the olden and in many ways so golden days. Where there was a loving family coming together on matchdays before, there will be strangers coming to consume a match like a hamburger at those American chains.

Glazer may take their money now, but will these sycophants stay loyal when things don't look so good? Won't they just abandon the ship when it sinks like the rats they are? And oh what a mockery it will be, a mockery of those unwavering brave souls who so loyally stood behind Manchester United through all the bad times.

Malcolm Glazer has now taken full control of the club and can unleash his hounds of commercialism onto this innocent club. The happy family, the glimpse into a pure, more simple past is in the process of being destroyed. Corporate greed 1 Humanity 0. A sad day indeed.

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Really moved me.

RedBlood · June 21, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jolly Rancher:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

At the moment Man United is supported mostly by people who live three miles within the ground and whos fathers and grandfathers already went and knew the players personally, true local civic patriots who cheer on the lads who represent their community.

With American billionaire Malcolm Glazer's takeover however they will be replaced with people from faraway places like the East Midlands, Sussex, the Netherlands or even America. People whos main connection to the club will be replica shirts, sheets and other cheap merchandise purchased in these disgusting entities we call megastores.

Manchester United so far was a successful old-time football club, the type of thing that has become so rare in today's money-driven society. It was like an old brandy, an honest handshake with a good friend, a smile on the face of a child, something to savour indeed. Tycoon Malcolm Glazer threatens to destroy this oh so precious piece of the olden and in many ways so golden days. Where there was a loving family coming together on matchdays before, there will be strangers coming to consume a match like a hamburger at those American chains.

Glazer may take their money now, but will these sycophants stay loyal when things don't look so good? Won't they just abandon the ship when it sinks like the rats they are? And oh what a mockery it will be, a mockery of those unwavering brave souls who so loyally stood behind Manchester United through all the bad times.

Malcolm Glazer has now taken full control of the club and can unleash his hounds of commercialism onto this innocent club. The happy family, the glimpse into a pure, more simple past is in the process of being destroyed. Corporate greed 1 Humanity 0. A sad day indeed.

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Really moved me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> were not all megawhores

wycombe · June 21, 2005

basically though remaining within the ManU support means you'll be toothless if in the next couple of seasons ManU have got back to winning ways? what happens then?

wycombe · June 21, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jolly Rancher:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">At the moment Man United is supported mostly by people who live three miles within the ground and whos fathers and grandfathers already went and knew the players personally, true local civic patriots who cheer on the lads who represent their community.

With American billionaire Malcolm Glazer's takeover however they will be replaced with people from faraway places like the East Midlands, Sussex, the Netherlands or even America. People whos main connection to the club will be replica shirts, sheets and other cheap merchandise purchased in these disgusting entities we call megastores.

Manchester United so far was a successful old-time football club, the type of thing that has become so rare in today's money-driven society. It was like an old brandy, an honest handshake with a good friend, a smile on the face of a child, something to savour indeed. Tycoon Malcolm Glazer threatens to destroy this oh so precious piece of the olden and in many ways so golden days. Where there was a loving family coming together on matchdays before, there will be strangers coming to consume a match like a hamburger at those American chains.

Glazer may take their money now, but will these sycophants stay loyal when things don't look so good? Won't they just abandon the ship when it sinks like the rats they are? And oh what a mockery it will be, a mockery of those unwavering brave souls who so loyally stood behind Manchester United through all the bad times.

Malcolm Glazer has now taken full control of the club and can unleash his hounds of commercialism onto this innocent club. The happy family, the glimpse into a pure, more simple past is in the process of being destroyed. Corporate greed 1 Humanity 0. A sad day indeed.

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Really moved me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ericcantona7 · June 21, 2005

has he got the 97.6% or whatever yet?

Scatter · June 21, 2005

re: ghifb and the confed cup. he was brilliant against defensively against us, although a miscommunication between him and the keeper lead to our second goal.

and his crossing is still diabolical.

flamegrilledmonkey · June 21, 2005

Has anyone else suffered from the OneUnited scam?

I cancelled my DD with them a few weeks back, but they set up a new one under a different name and reference number and took out the Â£23 today.

Looking at RI this seems to have happened alot, and should be in the Sun tomorrow. Unfortunately, i was unavailable for comment

RedBlood · June 21, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by flamegrilledmonkey:

Has anyone else suffered from the OneUnited scam?

I cancelled my DD with them a few weeks back, but they set up a new one under a different name and reference number and took out the Â£23 today.

Looking at RI this seems to have happened alot, and should be in the Sun tomorrow. Unfortunately, i was unavailable for comment </div></BLOCKQUOTE>read about this on RI, i renewed though

Knox · June 21, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick OGS20:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Knox:

I do find it odd that Ryno is getting flak for thinking of buying a shirt from people who will be paying for STs... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Wicom:

I don't understand how you can on one hand say "stop ! buying that shirt gives money to Mr Glazer !" but at the same time buy a season ticket :/ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

In addition to the financial implications explained so well on the last page, surely you guys realise the huge difference in real terms between going to matches and buying replica shirts? When you've been going week-in, week-out for years and going to the game is such a huge part of your life, just jacking it in is such a hard thing to do, and I personally feel no shame in admitting I couldn't do that this summer.

Whereas when it comes to buying a shirt, there's no emotional attachment there. In the past, I've sometimes bought a shirt, sometimes (and increasingly so) not. I refuse to believe it's a huge wrench for any fan to go without buying a replica shirt, especially when there are excellent alternatives. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nick, I never had a problem with the season-ticket/LMTB only idea if that's what you want to do. And tbh, if you feel that you have no attachment to a shirt doesn't mean its the same for others.

I was questioning the "wtf!! you buying a shirt, get a dd set up for big mal lolz!!" attitude held by some whenever their own money is going to the exact same place.

Skipping a programme and pie are small, small steps to getting the Glazers out but those people are not on the most solid of grounds themselves to be so blazen.

deanb291186 · June 21, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">16 July Clyde (some first team players)

19 July Peterborough (some first team players)

21-31 July Far East Tour

2 August Wrexham (some first team players)

3 August Royal Antwerp (First Team)

9/10 August ECL Qualifier

13 August FAPL season starts

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The confirmed friendlies and dates so far

Nick OGS20 · June 21, 2005

I thought the Antwerp friendly was going to be a second-string United side?

Coldberg · June 21, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick OGS20:

I thought the Antwerp friendly was going to be a second-string United side? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

They heard we were going & changed it

deanb291186 · June 21, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick OGS20:

I thought the Antwerp friendly was going to be a second-string United side? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dunno got it off RN

Nick OGS20 · June 21, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">[17] Get writing

Monday, June 20, 2005

from IMUSA

Last weekâ€™s appeal by Tony Lloyd for the Government to intervene in the battle to save United on the grounds that Glazerâ€™s takeover of the club would damage the long term future of the game of football received a muted response from ministers. It is becoming increasingly clear that the authorities are shying away from making any intervention and we need to start applying some pressure to show them how many fans are genuinely concerned.

As daft as it may seem there are those in Whitehall who believe most United fans donâ€™t really care what happens to our club and we need to change that opinion. IMUSA wants fans to write to The Office of Fair Trading and demand that The OFT refer the Glazer bid to the competition authorities.

During the Murdoch campaign less than five hundred letters saw the Sky deal referred to the Monopolies and Mergers Commission and this campaign is far bigger than that.â€™

A letter along the following lines would be sufficient:

'I am a match-going supporter of Manchester United. I will not be able to afford the price rises that, it is reported, Glazer will introduce. As a consumer, I will be disadvantaged if Glazer is permitted to proceed with his acquisition. I would therefore urge the OFT to refer this to the Competition Commission to investigate.'

Send your letter to:

Mr Graham Winton

Director of MPI 4

Office of Fair Trading

Fleetbank House

2-6 Salisbury Square

London

EC4Y 8JX

Written letters work best but you can also email:

graham.winton@oft.gsi.gov.uk

Get everyone you know to do the same, if there are two or three of you in the same house then each send a letter. Non-match-going fans can express their concern that Glazerâ€™s indebtedness poses a threat as he may well attempt to destroy any future TV deals and make all Unitedâ€™s games pay-per-view. If you know anyone who buys shirts and merchandise then they too should be persuaded to write outlining fears that he may raise prices on merchandise too. Fans of other clubs should also be persuaded to write in expressing their concern that the wider game of football is threatened by Glazerâ€™s takeover.

NB. All correspondence, including emails must contain a genuine postal address. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not seen this posted. An extremely long shot, but worth a go?

Al3 · June 21, 2005

been away for a few days, has the roundup been posted yet?

Crilly · June 21, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Manchester United have agreed a fee of Â£4m with PSV Eindhoven for South Korea midfielder Park Ji-Sung, according to the player's agent.

Park is reported to be flying to England on Wednesday for a medical before signing a four-year deal.

"PSV Eindhoven and the English league club reached a deal early in the morning," read a press release from Park's agency FS Corporation.

Park, 24, is also said to have been given the number 21 shirt.

The 24-year-old midfielder had said he was unsure whether he wanted to leave the Dutch champions.

He cited his close relationship with coach Guus Hiddink, who led South Korea to the 2002 World Cup semi-finals.

But his representative Kim Jung-Il said: "Park has made up his mind to join Manchester United and the president of our company informed PSV."

Park recently helped the South Koreans book their place in their sixth consecutive World Cup by scoring in the 4-0 thrashing of Kuwait.

He moved to PSV in December 2002 from Japanese club Kyoto Purple Sanga, and impressed during PSV's superb run in the Champions League last season, scoring in the second leg of the semi-final against AC Milan.

If he does move to Old Trafford he will become United's second signing of the summer after 34-year-old Dutch goalkeeper Edwin van der Sar.

He would also be the third player in recent years - after Jaap Stam and Ruud van Nistelrooy - to swap PSV for Old Trafford.

Park, capped 38 times by his country, scored for PSV in their 3-1 semi-final second-leg win over AC Milan, only for the Italian giants to go through on away goals.

He also scored the final goal when South Korea beat Kuwait 4-0 this month and made it to the World Cup finals for the sixth consecutive time. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

done deal it seems

hooray for not paying far too much

foobR · June 22, 2005

Â£4m

A decent fee for another player

What the hell

Phreaky · June 22, 2005

No more Man United tax?

Saha · June 22, 2005

Glazer (or whoever is doing our transfers this year) seems to be a right tightass

James07? · June 22, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ryno:

Is that still going on?

Nevermind, I didn't think most people would understand. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

f*cking hell. what a supercilious tw*t you are.

Bouncerboy13 · June 22, 2005

Has Park Ji-Sung been bought as a merchandising tool? Or is he going to contend for a place in the team?

James07? · June 22, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Knox:

I was questioning the "wtf!! you buying a shirt, get a dd set up for big mal lolz!!" attitude held by some whenever their own money is going to the exact same place. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

the problem with message boards is that some people are unwilling or unable to read between the lines and thus take everything literally and miss the underlying point of the comment.

JulesMUFC · June 22, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jolly Rancher:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

At the moment Man United is supported mostly by people who live three miles within the ground and whos fathers and grandfathers already went and knew the players personally, true local civic patriots who cheer on the lads who represent their community.

With American billionaire Malcolm Glazer's takeover however they will be replaced with people from faraway places like the East Midlands, Sussex, the Netherlands or even America. People whos main connection to the club will be replica shirts, sheets and other cheap merchandise purchased in these disgusting entities we call megastores.

Manchester United so far was a successful old-time football club, the type of thing that has become so rare in today's money-driven society. It was like an old brandy, an honest handshake with a good friend, a smile on the face of a child, something to savour indeed. Tycoon Malcolm Glazer threatens to destroy this oh so precious piece of the olden and in many ways so golden days. Where there was a loving family coming together on matchdays before, there will be strangers coming to consume a match like a hamburger at those American chains.

Glazer may take their money now, but will these sycophants stay loyal when things don't look so good? Won't they just abandon the ship when it sinks like the rats they are? And oh what a mockery it will be, a mockery of those unwavering brave souls who so loyally stood behind Manchester United through all the bad times.

Malcolm Glazer has now taken full control of the club and can unleash his hounds of commercialism onto this innocent club. The happy family, the glimpse into a pure, more simple past is in the process of being destroyed. Corporate greed 1 Humanity 0. A sad day indeed.

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Really moved me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It didnt move me, i thought it wasnt much cop, the idea is almost right about Glazer taking over being a **** idea. But the first line is a **** take, and United are still an old time football club? Whoring the merchandise to the far east and being a PLC really sounds like an old time football club.

And not a bad fee for Park \o/.

JulesMUFC · June 22, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bouncerboy13:

Has Park Ji-Sung been bought as a merchandising tool? Or is he going to contend for a place in the team? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not see him against AC Milan? He ran there back 4 ragged, he is a good player!

James07? · June 22, 2005

oooooooooooooh look at the contradictions there James!

you're an arrogant two faced w*nker.

Bouncerboy13 · June 22, 2005

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JulesMUFC:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bouncerboy13:

Has Park Ji-Sung been bought as a merchandising tool? Or is he going to contend for a place in the team? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not see him against AC Milan? He ran there back 4 ragged, he is a good player! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I saw Karel Poborsky score a wonder goal in Euro 1996 but he never set the world alight at United.

Saha · June 22, 2005