ramie Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Sergi Samper is developing very good on my save. Touted as the new Xavi too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxBowmanxX Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Tactic overview - http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/687/fcbarcelonatacticsoverv.png/ Malaga 5-5 - http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/546/mlagavbarcelonainformat.png/ Espanyol 9-0 - http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/espanyolvbarcelonainfor.png/ Real madrid 8-2 - http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/442/barcelonavrmadridinform.png/ Espanyol 11-0 - http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/542/barcelonavespanyolinfor.png/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikaze_josh Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 @ramie. Yes, Samper has the potential to be a gem! Good luck with developing him. @XxBowmanxX. That's crazy, 33 goals in 4 games?! There's definitely huge potential with a back 3, but finding the balance is tough. What are your team instructions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxBowmanxX Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Yeah i like the 3 back tactic, it doesnt utilize alves though but he still performs well. i tried giving xavi runs from deep sometimes rather than rarely but it wasnt as effective. team instructions - http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/fcbarcelonatacticsteami.png/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramie Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 @XxBowmanxX: Looks like a good tactic and the amount scored is impressive! can I see a SS of how Messi is playing? @kamikaze_josh: I'm mid way thur second season and I think I'm going to slowly introduce him to my first team, be interesting to see how he develops on with full time training instead on the youth ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxBowmanxX Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Messi - http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/607/lionelmessioverviewprof.png/ Villa - http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/davidvillaoverviewprofi.png/ both have been key so far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramie Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Thumbs up there mate! I have sold Villa, which seems foolish like at that SS lol But I got a big bid from Chelsea and he was injured and ageing rapidly so sold him and brought in a cut price Erik Lamela Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxBowmanxX Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 yeah depends who is available in the second season i may let villa go only due to his age Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramie Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 The usual choice is iker muniain but I always sign him. Im think of leandro (gremio) could be the next fat ronaldo on my game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxBowmanxX Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 after a little blip in form we lost a 10 point lead to madrid, down to 4 points. came to the game against them at the camp nou - http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/809/barcelonavrmadridinform.png/ not a bad way to pretty much wrap the title up and show them how its done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramie Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I have a quick question, how do you set Messi's closing down? ATM i have it maxed out, so his pressing whole pitch. I was wondering, will this affect him finding space? Because If he wasnt closing down and pressing, he would just flowing about, wouldn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxBowmanxX Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 i have it maxed out for both messi and villa or whoever plays upfront, only because i want them to stay on the defenders, the movement causes all sorts of problems, villa is a goal machine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxBowmanxX Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Finished the first season La liga Winners- http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/269/ligabbvaoverviewstagesb.png/ Copa Del Rey Winners - http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/214/barcelonavracinginforma.png/ Champions League Winners - http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/571/barcelonavmancityinform.png/ Super Copa Winners - http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/690/fcbarcelonafixturesfixt.png/ Super Cup Winners - http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/100/barcelonavportoinformat.png/ Club World Cup Winners - http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/714/alshababksavbarcelonain.png/ Player overview - http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/821/fcbarcelonasquadplayers.png/ onto season 2 now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxBowmanxX Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Man city have just bid 10 up front and 45m over 30 months for masch :\ he was brilliant when he played but thats a big big fee i can get Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramie Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Man city have just bid 10 up front and 45m over 30 months for masch :\ he was brilliant when he played but thats a big big fee i can get They offered me £43m and I let him go. Great he was but I'm pretty strong in that area. I'm dreading the day Alves goes but on the bright side I have romario who is pretty much a carbon copy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxBowmanxX Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Well ive accepted it and yeah i have montoya atm may look into romario to replace alves, or corchia he's always turned out insane on this game. need a replacement for masch though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramie Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Maybe try tempt Romeu back? I like M'vila and Sandro.. Javi Martinez is class as too Song. Emre Can has potential, but I think his more Xabi Alonso Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxBowmanxX Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Im thinking of signing thiago silva from milan and training both him and pique to play dmc and it would give me more options through the team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikaze_josh Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 @Bowman. Awesome first season, well done! I'm very interested to see how you progress with this back 3 tactic. Personally, I never mind letting any of the non-cantera players leave for big fees. You have so many exceptional talents coming through, it won't be long before you've found a way to replace them. Thiago Silva very much fits the Barcelona philosophy though and there is no reason at all why either he, or Pique for that matter, couldn't step up into midfield. As ramie said though, Romeu is a La Masia graduate and perhaps bringing him back (£13M buy back clause) would be more satisfying. I've just updated the OP to reflect how all of the first team and young players shape up on the latest patch. 11 pages of writing and trying to find things to say about the seemingly never ending stream of young talent! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramie Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I think Romeu is the best bet, his a lot younger than Silva and has catalan blood My fav young player is toss up between Samper and Rafa... I had Sergi Roberto but he seems to have halted in his progress. Ohh and Javi Espinosa is very good on the update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikaze_josh Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 Nice video explaining the 3-3-4 from the Getafe game. Very useful for my fellow '3 and a half' at the back fans! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNefwc3w7yA&feature=youtu.be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Kamikaze how far do you set the team width instructions when playing a 4-3-3 and do you play down the middle or the flanks? Just wandering Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikaze_josh Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 @RaggaeBwoy. Personally, I set width to about 3 clicks off as wide as it'll go and leave the play as mixed. The wingers stretch the play and leave more space for the central players and you also then keep the element of surprise (you're not always going out wide or through the middle). Still experimenting though and I'm by no means an expert! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggaeBwoy Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Thats what I am doing, experimenting. I was asking because I know Barca irl have a big pitch but recently due to Messi being played in the false number 9 role a lot of the play is through the middle with Messi dropping deep and collecting it through the middle and then just doing those forward bursting runs from out of nowhere lol, good post btw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramie Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Im struggling to get Messi to run with the ball. He just seems to want to pass Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikaze_josh Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 @RaggaeBwoy. Yep, most of the play is generally through the middle, but without the wide men to stretch the play it wouldn't be possible. Crosses aren't very effective when none of your front six are taller than 5'7''! My aim is usually to get the ball out wide, pull the full backs out of position and then lay it back to one of the creative players to play the final ball into that space. @ramie. Guessing you've got all of the obvious settings already. Does he have high creative freedom? He's more likely to override your instructions if he does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramie Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 What would you say are the obvious settings? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Gooner Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Hi Guys, Anyone got any reccomendations on what keeper I can sign? I have tried to get Reina but cant afford him as I only have a £10m transfer budget. I have just started a new Barca game so want to make sure my signings are done and dusted before pre season starts. Also does Oriol Romeu have a buy back clause from Chelsea in the game as I cant seem to find it anywhere? Can anyone reccomend any decent staff I can sign? I have tried to get Di Salvo, Baldini, Ayesteran, but none of them want to come. I am looking to clear out most of the current staff and scouts as I dont think they are good enough. If anyone has suggestions on staff signings then that would be appreciated Cheers LG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramie Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Yeah Romeu has a £13M buy back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxBowmanxX Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Im not going to sign anyone atm i got adler on a free to play back up to valdes, he was rather injury prone last season, balleste will get games too. Sadly my youth intake was so poor last year all of them 1 star or 1.5 at max. Gerard deulofeu was brilliant last season for me, Apps 19(13) 15 goals and 17 assists from left or right wing. Bojan comes back at the end of the season hopefully he will be able to replace villa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramie Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Im not going to sign anyone atm i got adler on a free to play back up to valdes, he was rather injury prone last season, balleste will get games too. Sadly my youth intake was so poor last year all of them 1 star or 1.5 at max. Gerard deulofeu was brilliant last season for me, Apps 19(13) 15 goals and 17 assists from left or right wing. Bojan comes back at the end of the season hopefully he will be able to replace villa. Does Messi run with the ball alot for you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxBowmanxX Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Not as much as i thought he would but his movement and little passes with villa are brilliant and the reason he scores so many. if he does go on a run with the ball he tends to get one on one and miss, where when he plays a one two with someone he tends to score. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikaze_josh Posted April 13, 2012 Author Share Posted April 13, 2012 What would you say are the obvious settings? Run with ball - often; the passing/through ball settings as mixed or rarely. Those sorts of things - sorry to be vague, I haven't got FM loaded up at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gipsy Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I would appreciate if you can give more idea kamikaze_josh once your game is loaded Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramie Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 @gipsy are you struggling to get messi running to? @kamikaze_joe: I have everything on rarely other than RWB and RFD. Ment is normal/high, CF on none, cross from byline, roam, no hold up, moves in channels. If I play if on the wing he goes past players but I want to recreate how he plays IRL and that seems to me, thur the middle and runs past defenders with eas and loads of freedom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gipsy Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 @ramie not necessarily, he is performing quite well for me averaging 40 goals a season (I him rotate a lot with a young Spanish player who has already been tutored 3 times by Messi and is seriously starting to look like Messi 2.0) that said, I am convinced that there is still room to improve his contributon to the team on the pitch (i play 343 exclusively) hence my question Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barcelona Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 here are my settings for messi: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/84/messit.png/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/809/messistats.png/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramie Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 He has finally scored! LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikaze_josh Posted April 13, 2012 Author Share Posted April 13, 2012 He has finally scored! LOL Not a bad match in which to break his drought! My suggestions would be to make his mentality quite defensive (so that he starts from deeper and has more space to run into) and give him some creative freedom (he's the best player in the world, so if you're going to trust any one to make decision, let it be Leo. Don't overdo it though.). Are other players getting in his space? Do you use him as a Target Man (to feet)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikaze_josh Posted April 13, 2012 Author Share Posted April 13, 2012 @ramienot necessarily, he is performing quite well for me averaging 40 goals a season (I him rotate a lot with a young Spanish player who has already been tutored 3 times by Messi and is seriously starting to look like Messi 2.0) that said, I am convinced that there is still room to improve his contributon to the team on the pitch (i play 343 exclusively) hence my question How does your 3-4-3 line-up, gipsy, and where does Messi fit in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxBowmanxX Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Have any of you got bojan back yet? and if so how good is he Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramie Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 I wanted to lower his mentality to a defensive one but will that lead him not to take risks? Also I'll try set him as TM. Yh bojan, is about to come back, roma bid £21m, what do I do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikaze_josh Posted April 13, 2012 Author Share Posted April 13, 2012 I wanted to lower his mentality to a defensive one but will that lead him not to take risks? Also I'll try set him as TM. Yh bojan, is about to come back, roma bid £21m, what do I do? I'm not 100% sure, but I thought it just affected a players' starting position? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gipsy Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 @kamikaze_josh GK:Alves DR:Montoya/Azpi DC: Masche(retrained as DC)/Bartra DL: Pique(retrained as DL/Muniesa DMCR: Sandro/Romeu DMCL: Busquets/Kevin MCR: Fabregas/Diego Perez? MCL: Iniesta/Thiago Rafinha will soon replace Iniesta AMR: Sanchez/Pedro AMC: Messi/Moises AML: Bojan(retrained as AML)/Cuenca so no striker, Messi or Moises (Messi 2.0) play as AMC Season 2017/2018 Voila Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikaze_josh Posted April 13, 2012 Author Share Posted April 13, 2012 @kamikaze_joshGK DR DC DL DMCR DMCL MCR MCL AMR AMC AML so no striker, Messi or Moises (Messi 2.0) play as AMC Looks interesting! Very similar in a way to a conventional 4-3-3 (4-1-2-2-1), with one DC pushed up slightly into defensive midfield and the striker dropping deeper (As Messi does IRL anyway). I'm guessing your DMCR is a DLP and DMCL more defensive? How attacking are your fullbacks? Are your wingers inside forwards? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramie Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 How have you got messi set up? And I'm not sure about mentality tbh, some say it affects starting position others say risks etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikaze_josh Posted April 13, 2012 Author Share Posted April 13, 2012 How have you got messi set up?And I'm not sure about mentality tbh, some say it affects starting position others say risks etc. I've looked around and it seems that it affects both. This is what www.guidetofootballmanager.com has to say about mentality: Mentality affects players' positioning and decisions on the ball. Default mentality for each player is set according to your strategy and the player’s role and duty. The more attacking a player's mentality, the higher up the pitch he will position himself (within the general constraints of his position in the team's formation). Also, the more attacking his decisions will be. So, for example, he will tend to choose attacking passes to players ahead of him rather than defensive passes to players behind him. Generally, it is best to leave mentality at the default setting so that adjusting roles and duties during a match will automatically give a player the appropriate mentality. However, you may, for example, want your centre backs to have a defensive mentality no matter how attacking your strategy is, or becomes, during a match. In this case though, you should make sure to adjust the mentality accordingly if you change to a more defensive strategy than normal. This page looks pretty useful! http://www.guidetofootballmanager.com/tactics/creating-tactics/player-instructions/player-specific-instructions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gipsy Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Looks interesting! Very similar in a way to a conventional 4-3-3 (4-1-2-2-1), with one DC pushed up slightly into defensive midfield and the striker dropping deeper (As Messi does IRL anyway). I'm guessing your DMCR is a DLP and DMCL more defensive? How attacking are your fullbacks? Are your wingers inside forwards? actually the opposite DMCR is more defensive and DMCL is DLP, for my fullbacks, the one one the right is more attacking (at the start dani Alves was there) and the left one is set to support. As for the AMR and AML, they are both set to inside forwards, the AMC being trequartista Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramie Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 My current tactic is Its only pre-season but so far so good, still Messi refuses to run lol Maybe I should tell him to unlearn 'comes deep to get the ball' Passes: I'll get bigger numbers if I lower mentailty but will affect my CCC. Average positions: I would like to get a few more of my players pushed but Im happy with the space between all my players Match stats: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
onecockygeezer Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Half way through the season nowSummer transfers; In - none Out - Abidal £25m (Malaga). Keita £6m (Arsenal). Afellay Loan fee £10m (psg). Keirrison £6.75m (porto). Adriano £12.75m (Arsenal) blimey 25 mils for abidal, well done there! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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