Cooperd97 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Have to say pretty proud of this one! Been playing since FM16 taking teams from VNL North/South and this is by far the best I've ever achieved! 😁Taking York to the Prem in 5 Season winning every League trophy of the way! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Sebastian Szlenkier Posted February 28, 2019 SI Staff Share Posted February 28, 2019 12 hours ago, Cooperd97 said: Have to say pretty proud of this one! Been playing since FM16 taking teams from VNL North/South and this is by far the best I've ever achieved! 😁Taking York to the Prem in 5 Season winning every League trophy of the way! Congratulations! Good luck in the Premier League! Did you keep the great Jon Parkin around as a staff member? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillywhite Dean Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Lads, this is yet more evidence of the game being too easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooperd97 Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Sebastian Szlenkier said: Congratulations! Good luck in the Premier League! Did you keep the great Jon Parkin around as a staff member? Thank you Sebastian! Proper made me laugh about good old John,Thought it was only me who kept him 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooperd97 Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 44 minutes ago, Lillywhite Dean said: Lads, this is yet more evidence of the game being too easy. I disagree with you Dean, This is probably the 25th+ time I have attempted doing this over 4 generations of the game,* lot of hours 😂 *it's took a lot of persistance to get to this point , and I've gained a huge amount of experience through doing that, Do agree some aspects of the game are easy, however a major factor is the players skill and experience ,and you won't see a huge number of people being able to accomplish that same achievement,to put it down the the game being " easier " is unfair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillywhite Dean Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 41 minutes ago, Cooperd97 said: however a major factor is the players skill and experience Absolutely. For the many of us who do have this experience, VNL North/South to Premier League in 5 seasons is a fairly typical career. And this is part of the problem. If you have this experience, the game ends up being easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footix Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 "The game is easy when you are good at it" Hmmm... I struggle to see that as an argument. Everything is easy when you are good at it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillywhite Dean Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Footix said: "The game is easy when you are good at it" Hmmm... I struggle to see that as an argument. Everything is easy when you are good at it! Replace "good" with "experienced" (which is what I actually said). So, "the game is easy when you are experienced at it". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooperd97 Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share Posted March 1, 2019 9 hours ago, Lillywhite Dean said: Absolutely. For the many of us who do have this experience, VNL North/South to Premier League in 5 seasons is a fairly typical career. And this is part of the problem. If you have this experience, the game ends up being easy. I do see where your coming from, for the experienced players once you've done it a few time you do get the hang of it, and you can't get much harder than that, leading to it getting slightly tedious over time, would be good to add a harder mode if you choose so or something along that line, guess it's just finding the right balance of level for experienced players but also considering players who aren't so great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillywhite Dean Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 7 hours ago, Cooperd97 said: I do see where your coming from, for the experienced players once you've done it a few time you do get the hang of it, and you can't get much harder than that, leading to it getting slightly tedious over time, would be good to add a harder mode if you choose so or something along that line, guess it's just finding the right balance of level for experienced players but also considering players who aren't so great Exactly this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish18ish Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 On 28/02/2019 at 14:27, Cooperd97 said: I disagree with you Dean, This is probably the 25th+ time I have attempted doing this over 4 generations of the game,* lot of hours 😂 *it's took a lot of persistance to get to this point , and I've gained a huge amount of experience through doing that, Do agree some aspects of the game are easy, however a major factor is the players skill and experience ,and you won't see a huge number of people being able to accomplish that same achievement,to put it down the the game being " easier " is unfair. Even the very best manager in real life would not take York to the Prem in 5 seasons barring a sugar daddy owner taking over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooperd97 Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 On 04/03/2019 at 08:47, fish18ish said: Even the very best manager in real life would not take York to the Prem in 5 seasons barring a sugar daddy owner taking over. Just because that's true does not necessarily mean that it shouldn't be possible in the game, what would then be the point of even having the VNL N/S if it was that realistic you could never do anything par the league your already in because it would be like that in real life,there needs to be some sense of achievement in the game for players and this is one, this is the hardest thing you can do in the game which experienced players like to challenge there selves with,regardless of how realistic this is compared the real life * obviously this only complies with certain aspects,i and players want the game to be realistic in many ways * but going by that logic in real life Leicester was something like 25,000-1 to win the league and they did, is that how hard FM should be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish18ish Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Cooperd97 said: Just because that's true does not necessarily mean that it shouldn't be possible in the game, what would then be the point of even having the VNL N/S if it was that realistic you could never do anything par the league your already in because it would be like that in real life,there needs to be some sense of achievement in the game for players and this is one, this is the hardest thing you can do in the game which experienced players like to challenge there selves with,regardless of how realistic this is compared the real life * obviously this only complies with certain aspects,i and players want the game to be realistic in many ways * but going by that logic in real life Leicester was something like 25,000-1 to win the league and they did, is that how hard FM should be? FMM should be hard enough that what happens in it seems within the realms of possibility. If back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back promotions were a 25,000-1 occurrence in game that would be fine, but really anyone who is experienced at the game can do it if they build their squad for the long term and invest right. And can I ask what sense of achievement this creates? For me, such an absurd and unrealistic "achievement" only serves to downplay something that would normally be a challenge in itself, like one promotion, or 2 back-to-back. I'm not saying it should be impossible to take a non-league team to the top, but for people to be able to do it this quickly is absolutely ludicrous. Its the antithesis of a challenge, so when the highs do come, they don't feel nearly as high as they should do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Marc Vaughan Posted March 13, 2019 SI Staff Share Posted March 13, 2019 Personally I'm still amazed when people manage to do something like this ... not least because I've never managed it myself in back to back seasons, bottom to top in 10 years, yeah I've managed that ... but straight seasons never ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickThomas Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I got straight promotions with Salford in last years game, won the premiership at the first time of asking and then went on to win the champions league at the first time of asking 😛 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooperd97 Posted March 23, 2019 Author Share Posted March 23, 2019 On 13/03/2019 at 20:54, Marc Vaughan said: Personally I'm still amazed when people manage to do something like this ... not least because I've never managed it myself in back to back seasons, bottom to top in 10 years, yeah I've managed that ... but straight seasons never ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamFleming Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 I usually just use the 4-1-2-2-1 on attacking whenever I take control of a team that far down and that always takes me straight to the prem but then my teams form gets really inconsistent, I've done this for a year or two and it's remained as solid as ever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
passenger58 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Just as a side point on this - I'd consider myself experienced on FMM. I've never been able to do the VNL North/South to Premier League in 5 seasons, but I set my own challenges to make the game a bit tougher. For example, only signing players on free transfers or only signing domestic players. I started playing as Racing Santander in the Spanish third tier and it took me 3 seasons to get them promoted to the second tier based on the above restrictions. There's a certain level of satisfaction knowing I haven't spent a penny on transfer fees. This game can't be everything to everybody and it is basically what you make it. A lot of people will play as Man City then say the game is too easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP25 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 It took me 10 years to take Ebbsfleet from Vanorama National to the Prem but now I have 8 prem wins and 7 Champions Leagues Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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