swindon-town-fc-forever Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 My pc has a Quad Core processor and 2gb ram yet my game does not seem to run very fast at all and i don't know why. The detail level is set to minimum and everything yet it doesn't seem to make much difference. This is a pc that is only a few weeks old, Any ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koki Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Do you have "Multi-threading" enabled in the options? It allows the game to use more than just one processor. I believe that for FM2009 RAM is more important than MhZ. But prove me wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfpunk Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Do you have Threading ticked in preferences? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swindon-town-fc-forever Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 Yes threading is ticked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgreenio Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 as Koki says i'm pretty sure FM is more RAM intensive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swindon-town-fc-forever Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 I just thought that with the spec my pc is it would run a lot faster, it doesn't seem to run much faster than it would on a single processor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakobx Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Its not THAT ram intensive. 2gb should be more than enough for normal database setups. The most important component for FM is the CPU. Unfortunately even the fastest CPU available is still far too slow for a really playable experience. They need to fix their code. There is probably a potential for a 10 fold increase in speed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee50_11 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 maybe get some more ram? my quad core takes it's time sometimes but i run a couple of programs in the background so don't mind waiting after nearly 10 seasons loading time is basically the same as the 1st season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swindon-town-fc-forever Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 They really need to sort it out for the next one because surely they could make it run so much faster, It gets annoying and boring having to wait so long for the game to load. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee50_11 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 what leagues are you running and database size etc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swindon-town-fc-forever Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 I'm running French, English, Spanish, German, Italian & Scottish leagues with huge database. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne\'o Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 it may be that you are expecting to much of your pc.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swindon-town-fc-forever Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 Not really, not when it's a Quad Core Processor that cost me over £200, I expect it to run things a lot quicker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt4ani Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Its not THAT ram intensive. 2gb should be more than enough for normal database setups. The most important component for FM is the CPU. Unfortunately even the fastest CPU available is still far too slow for a really playable experience. They need to fix their code. There is probably a potential for a 10 fold increase in speed. Balls. I have a AMD Athlon 7500 Dual Core 2.7GHZ Processor and it runs like a beast. I have 3 gigs of RAM. The match engine is smooth and the fixtures are quick. To the original poster, have you got the latest patch? They had some problems in earlier version with threading making it run slow. Also, check FM is seeing that you have 3 processors via the status screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swindon-town-fc-forever Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 The match engine is smooth but processing takes quite some time, it takes quite a while to load from when i last played to when i play again. I am running the latest patch 9.0.3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swindon-town-fc-forever Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 Balls.I have a AMD Athlon 7500 Dual Core 2.7GHZ Processor and it runs like a beast. I have 3 gigs of RAM. The match engine is smooth and the fixtures are quick. To the original poster, have you got the latest patch? They had some problems in earlier version with threading making it run slow. Also, check FM is seeing that you have 3 processors via the status screen. How do i check that FM is seeing that i have 4 processors? what status screen are you talking about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt4ani Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 HAve you checked it detects your cores? Take a screenshot of your status screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt4ani Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 At work at the moment, can't remember what menu it is on. Simply says status, and bottom right it says how many cores you have and its performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgreenio Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 think options ---> game status, bottom left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee50_11 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I'm running French, English, Spanish, German, Italian & Scottish leagues with huge database. i run a couple more leagues than that all the way down on a huge database fine for me 2.7ghz amd quad core with 8gb ram, try the large database maybe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althaz Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Do you have "Multi-threading" enabled in the options? It allows the game to use more than just one processor.I believe that for FM2009 RAM is more important than MhZ. But prove me wrong. I upgraded from 2Gb to 8Gb and there was no appreciable difference, so I doubt that is the case . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roykela Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I have a Quad with 4GB RAM (3.5GB 32-bit OS). And it has always been slower than expected. It never uses as much processor-power as it could at all. And certainly (on my games) more than apprx. 70% of the RAM. It got better with each patch, but still it's kinda slow. Been running all leagues with minimum details. It was slower, but it didn't use more power. Same as i run 1 league only. It goes faster but it doesn't use less, or more power. It just goes faster/slower depending on how many leagues i choose. And when it's processing it's processing the dates/fixtures, and whatever there is to process, in pulses. Process - Stop - Process - Stop. I've tried overclocking and i've tried normal. Not much of a difference at all. I have been writing about this many times in other threads. Just check out my other posts. Although i know so little about these things, i have a feeling that the game isn't really optimized. Probably won't take too long until Wakers sees this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee50_11 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 is it only quad core? do people with dual core have a speed issue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roykela Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 From what i remember it seems like dual core are better than quads, as in smoother. But i might remember the wrong thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfpunk Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I have a dual core and have never had any speed issues :confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roykela Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Quite a few people with dual have said that it runs fine, whilst people with quads have said otherwise. So i don't really know what to say from that. It seems like people with quads and Vista, "suffer" the most. Haven't really paid too much attention, to be honest, after the last patch. So i don't know how accurate that is now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee50_11 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 mines been better after the last patch only slightly but still very playable after 10 seasons on a huge database just hope they keep the same system requirements for FM10 and improve its functionality on quad core machines Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roykela Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Agree with you there lee50_11. Right now i'm in 2018 with 25 countries loaded. All leagues in those countries are playable. I can't really complain about speed, since it goes very very well. However, it still feels like it could go much faster. I just clicked continue and now, while it's processing, it uses 950MB RAM and 25 % of the processor. I would like to think that an intensive game (processing-wise) like FM09 would use more resources than just that. By the end of transferwindows, on matchdays and on seasonchanges it takes a bit longer than usual. But the game doesn't use more power than what it normally does. One thing that should be noted though, is that those numbers i gave earlier isn't the max i have seen FM09 use. That was just now. But it sure could use a lot more than what it's using now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee50_11 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 yeah i agree mine uses around 30% of my ram while processing and about the same cpu usage (just looking now) i'm running about 7 fully playable leagues (all the way down) and 2 on view only maybe i will try loading more as you have a few more than me loaded Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roykela Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 What are your specs lee? Mine are Q6700 Overclocked to 3.34GHZ Vista Home Premium 4GB RAM (3,5GB) 1TB HDD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee50_11 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 AMD Phenom 9950 2.7ghz 64 Bit Vista Basic 8gb DDR2 800MHZ RAM 320gb HDD Might go with an intel in a few few years when i upgrade my pc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roykela Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Nice. I like I just think it's strange that FM09 doesn't utilize more of the computer than it does. However, i'm not a genius when it comes to that area though. Just have to point that out. Hope it's possible for FM10 to get the game to use more of what's there so people with Quads (or at least, those with speed issues) feels like the game is using more horsepower when it's needed. To put it in other words. It's almost like running 100 meters with 50 guys hanging on to you. When they let go, however, you're not able to speed up. You're running at the same pace.....if you get my analogy ***edit**** It goes faster to finish, but that's just because the track shortened, not because you were able to run faster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swindon-town-fc-forever Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 My specs are:- AMD Phenom Quad Core X4 940 3Ghz Processor 2GB Ram 320GB Sata 16MB Cache Hard Drive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxonaitor Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 You try it with one processor!!! It dosen't evan work!!! If you want to help me my thread is in the technical issues Forum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roykela Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I like thos specs too I think it's a case of the game not utilizing the best of a quad-system. Dual-core seems to work fine. But hey, that's what it seems like. Do not take my word for how it is. I just know, how it feels like on my computer, how it is on my computer and what others have said about the game on their computers. Would be nice if there was someone who actually knew more about this would comment here. How much of RAM and CPU does the game use on your computer then, swindon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee50_11 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 perfectly described roykela Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roykela Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I tried unticking threading, but that was just disaster. So i can understand what you must be going through, if you're running with just one processor (core) Saxonaitor. One funny thing though, was that on my computer, the game was running faster when i used Aero. If i turned Aero off, the game would go slower and the 3D would stutter. I just don't get it lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roykela Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I take it you understand my analogy then, lee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee50_11 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I take it you understand my analogy then, lee :)i understand threading was also a disaster for me when unticked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee50_11 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 who you managing in your current game roykela? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roykela Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Right now, i'm in swedish first division north. Managing Mariehem. Started unemployed. Just wanted a new challenge so i loaded up a few leagues and took whatever. Struggling a bit, but it's steady. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxonaitor Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 So i can understand what you must be going through, if you're running with just one processor (core) Saxonaitor. My friend my life is for the worse because of it but I am getting a new computer in the next month hopefully.!!!! :D basically my problem is that it takes 2 mins to load an option screen tab selections screen etc It's Unplayable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee50_11 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 My friend my life is for the worse because of it but I am getting a new computer in the next month hopefully.!!!! :D what you looking at getting? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roykela Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Yeah, that would certainly help with the FM experience. Was reading your other thread, but i have no idea about that one. Know how it's like to run a game you really wanna play, but you're stuck with a "crap" computer. It sucks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxonaitor Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 I'm getting somthing along the lines of this: would estimate that an AMD AM3 Phenom II x810 with Vista Home Premium, 500GB HardDrive, 2GB RAM, DVD Burner and ATI 4650 would be about -: $1030 (Base) - $220 (less Monitor/Keyboard/Speakers??) + $165 (Vista) + $55 (Graphics Card) = $1030 TOTAL (Approx.) maybe $60 setup = $1090 I'm getting it custom built probably Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 ive been having a problem, try this and see if it applies, change the screen to windowed mode and watch the top of the screen were it says FM2009. when you press continue and it starts processin my pc stops responding, like you may see in other games when they crash, but it last for 5-10 secs and then it continues as if nothing was wrong. it could be why it seems slow prcessing when in fact its not i'd like others input on this aswell cos it happens most of the time and slows my game down considerably. otherwise it runs very fast for me. (when working) ps, it may be a W7 problem but i dont know! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roykela Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Oh yeah. I forgot. Right now i'm trying W7. Been trying it for a few days, and i have the same problem as you foofighter23. Have you tried running it in compatability mode (XP)? I haven't tried it yet, but it worked on Vista, to get rid of that "No Response" message. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee50_11 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 ive been having a problem, try this and see if it applies, change the screen to windowed mode and watch the top of the screen were it says FM2009. when you press continue and it starts processin my pc stops responding, like you may see in other games when they crash, but it last for 5-10 secs and then it continues as if nothing was wrong. it could be why it seems slow prcessing when in fact its noti'd like others input on this aswell cos it happens most of the time and slows my game down considerably. otherwise it runs very fast for me. (when working) ps, it may be a W7 problem but i dont know! i'm on vista happens 99% of the time i press continue don't worry about it now i'm so used to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swindon-town-fc-forever Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 I'm running Windows 7 RC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swindon-town-fc-forever Posted June 23, 2009 Author Share Posted June 23, 2009 With the game running now my pc is using 1.22GB of memory and around 28% of the CPU is being used, When i look at task manager i notice that the 4th processor is being used more than the other 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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