Coasterkoa Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 How well can you spot talent? Lets find out. Premise: I will post a batch of screen shots of players attributes. Your job is to try and determine the CA and PA of the player in the screen shot. You will only have access to some of the player's attributes. Sometimes just the form of the player, sometimes the attributes, sometimes both, or a combination of something or other. Each is meant to test your abilities as an evaluator of talent. How to play: After judging each player in the round, you will send me a PM with your guesses for each player's PA and CA. You do not need to sign up, simply send me a PM with your guesses each round and you will be added to the overall table. No posting guesses in this thread! Scoring: For each player, you start with a score of 100. For everyone one point you are off in CA and PA, you lose one of those points. Example: You guess a CA of 120 and a PA of 150, and the players actual CA is 110 and PA is 170. You are off by 10 points in CA and 20 points in PA, and therefore have 30 points removed from your original 100, and you have 70 points for that player. Be advised, you CAN have negative points if you do poorly enough (ie, off by more than 100 points), but I don't foresee that happening. Add the points for each player in the round, and there is your final score for the round. The winner of each round will be given a 10 point bonus and an award. Round One will begin shortly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsh Wizard Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I like the sound of this it will be hard but I'll give it a go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtilasMiserly Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 With the current format, nobody will have a positive score after a few rounds. You get points deducted even if you are 1 point off the CA or PA. Going by probability, you have 1 in 40,000 chance of not getting points deducted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coasterkoa Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 AtilasMiserly, you have to be off on CA and PA by a combined 100 points to end up with negative points. Surely that won't be so hard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coasterkoa Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 Round One: The Clam Chowder Bowl Ten players this round. You have access to their attributes and vital stats (height, weight, etc). Player One Player Two Player Three Player Four Player Five Player Six Player Seven Player Eight Player Nine Player Ten Happy Guessing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsh Wizard Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Sent my guess but I don't think I done that well but we will see Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coasterkoa Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 Thanks your your submission Welsh Wizard. I'll be posting results at the end of the round (which I haven't decided the end of). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenArsenal Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I can spot talent very well, but I'm no good with numbers. I can only tell you whether the player is or . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coasterkoa Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 BenArsenal, well take a look at the players and see which league they would be in and then find out what CA and PA regulars in that league have. Give it a go! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamuel Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 This looks fun, I've had a guess but got a feeling I might be rubbish at this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetheref Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I've had a go, mainly random guesses and I expect to be well in the negative Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlesbeams Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 sent mine, ill end up being the first to go into negative Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwhitearmy Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 sent mine, i'll be useless at this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coasterkoa Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 I've got guesses from the following: Welsh Wizard, Hamuel, joetheref, Charlesbeams, KiddingChoc and greenwhitearmy You all shouldn't worry, your points are all very similar at the moment. Whether that means you all are amazing at this or all terrible at this remains to be seen . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsh Wizard Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 I've got guesses from the following:Welsh Wizard, Hamuel, joetheref, Charlesbeams, KiddingChoc and greenwhitearmy You all shouldn't worry, your points are all very similar at the moment. Whether that means you all are amazing at this or all terrible at this remains to be seen . Mine were a bit rushed so if I'm not in the negative I'm happy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Sent mine in, to be honest though I don't think I've done very well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coasterkoa Posted July 16, 2009 Author Share Posted July 16, 2009 Received yours Adamw. Anyone who wants to get in for the first round should do so quickly, I will be ending the first round soon. It's really not hard to guess 20 numbers between 1 and 200 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Nice idea for a challenge, but I won't dare enter as I've never used CA/PA so wouldn't know where to start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coasterkoa Posted July 18, 2009 Author Share Posted July 18, 2009 Round One will end at noon today (GMT). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 Round One has ended then I assume Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coasterkoa Posted July 19, 2009 Author Share Posted July 19, 2009 Yes, round one is over. Results coming soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coasterkoa Posted July 19, 2009 Author Share Posted July 19, 2009 Round One: Clam Chowder Bowl, Results The winner of the round will receive 10 extra points and the Clam Chowder Bowl, a reference to the fact that all ten players are currently playing for the New England Revolution in 2025. Due to how poorly MLS is simulated after the first few years, things get very messed up in MLS and American soccer in general, and this made an ideal place to find a wide variety of players for the first round. Lets meet our players shall we? Player One: Fernando Lopez The Mexican-American winger spent his entire career in the United States, first in the PDL and then bouncing around MLS. He never established himself in any of the teams he played for and has played poorly when called upon. A shame he never got close to his potential. CA: 96 PA: 174 Best scouting report: Adamw with a guess of CA = 116 and PA = 146. Average guess of CA = 123 and PA =140. Player Two: Steve Parker Started his career I the PDL, then made the jump to the USL-1 before finding his way to MLS. He has been with New England for 7 years, playing over 200 games. In that time, he has averaged very poorly, around 6.40. CA: 113 PA: 115 Best scouting report: Adamw with a guess of CA = 110 and PA = 114. Average guess of CA = 105 and PA =125. Player Three: Joël Van den Bossche New England just bought this Belgian youth international from Club Brugge (previously 5 years at AA Gent) at the beginning of the season for $525k. He had a poor season, averaging 6.57 over 30 games. CA: 132 PA: 146 Best scouting report: greenwhitearmy with a guess of CA = 125 and PA = 140. Average guess of CA = 127 and PA =160. Player Four: Paul Nixon The former US youth international bounced around MLS in his early days but has found a steady contract at New England. He hasn’t played all that well in the past, but was in decent form this season, setting up 14 assists in 34 games. CA: 115 PA: 116 Best scouting report: Adamw with a guess of CA = 115 and PA = 116. That’s no typo, he got it exactly. Average guess of CA = 128 and PA = 140 Player Five: Roger Worthington A prolific scorer in both the USL and PDL in his younger days, Worthington has found his way to MLS and has scored 64 goals for New England in his 4.5 years there. This has been his best season to date, scoring 21 goals in 36 games. CA: 135 PA: 190 Best scouting report: Charlesbeams with a guess of CA = 140 and PA = 175. Average guess of CA = 136 and PA =159. Player Six: Thabang Mdluli South African international Mdluli started his career at Kaizer Cheifs before switching to rivals Orlando Pirates where he played beautifully. He came into MLS for Real Salt Lake in 2021, and played poorly. He was picked up by New England before the season started and played poorly, 6.07 over 31 games. 129, 131 Best scouting report: Hamuel with a guess of CA = 136 and PA = 139. Average guess of CA = 103 and PA =123. Player Seven: Chris Edwards New Englands first choice keeper for the last 7 years, and has played inconsistently to say the least. He conceded 41 goals in 30 games this year. CA: 103 PA: 139 Best scouting report: Welsh Wizard with a guess of CA = 100 and PA = 110. Average guess of CA = 129 and PA =139. Player Eight: Alain Lasa A Spanish winger bought by the Revolution for $750k halfway through the season from Sparta Prague. He only managed 5 sub appearances this season. CA: 138 PA: 151 Best scouting report: Adamw with a guess of CA = 135 and PA = 147. Average guess of CA = 146 and PA =168. Player Nine: Frankie Robinson Played for 7 different MLS clubs (several for multiple stints) in 7 years. Only managed to play 26 games, in that time, and started 5 of those. His transfer history is proof that MLS is seriously broken in FM. CA: 95 PA: 139 Best scouting report: joetheref with a guess of CA = 100 and PA = 140. Average guess of CA = 97 and PA =124. Player Ten: Jim Forrest Six clubs in four years for Forrest, who played 12 MLS games in that time. He made two sub appearances for New England this year. More proof that MLS doesn’t play well in FM. Actually most of these players prove that one way or another, but I digress. CA: 77 PA: 135 Best scouting report: Charlesbeams with a guess of CA = 80 and PA = 150. Average guess of CA = 66 and PA =103. The Clam Chowder Bowl goes to, drum roll please… Adamw! He has performed amazingly this round and scored a total of 674 points. He certainly will be the one to beat in the rounds to come. He wins the Clam Chowder Bowl and 10 points. Collect your trophy here: Trophy Round One Scoreboard: Player Points 1 Adamw 674 2 Hamuel 561 3 joetheref 541 4 KiddingChoc 533 5 Charlesbeams 523 6 greenwhitearmy 513 7 Welsh Wizard 486 Overall Scoreboard: Player Points 1 Adamw 684 2 Hamuel 561 3 joetheref 541 4 KiddingChoc 533 5 Charlesbeams 523 6 greenwhitearmy 513 7 Welsh Wizard 486 Round Two will be posted shortly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlesbeams Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 5th out of 7 though haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetheref Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Can't believe I'm 3rd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamuel Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Wow! I'm shocked how far out I was on some of them! Very happy (and surprised) with third though AdamW I'm afraid you may play this game too much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 I kind of wish I joined this now, some of my guesses were pretty close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 Woah! Half of those were guesses, I never expected to get that many. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welsh Wizard Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 as expected last I better improve for round 2 Adam how did you get them so close Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwhitearmy Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 2nd last, 1 better then my prediction Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coasterkoa Posted July 23, 2009 Author Share Posted July 23, 2009 Round Two - Show Me the Markka Player One Player Two Player Three Player Four Player Five Player Six Player Seven Player Eight Player Nine Player Ten Player Eleven Player Twelve Player Thirteen Player Fourteen Good luck, I hope you finnish before the end of the round. If you missed last round, you are more than welcome (infact encouraged) to join this round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 When is the deadline to submit our predictions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetheref Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 Sent my predictions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwhitearmy Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 sent mine in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coasterkoa Posted July 24, 2009 Author Share Posted July 24, 2009 Thanks for your submissions, I have them from William Hall, greenwhitearmy, Hamuel, and joetheref. Get your submissions in! I won't be closing the round anytime soon, but the sooner you get your picks in the better! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlesbeams Posted July 24, 2009 Share Posted July 24, 2009 sent my crappy guesses in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 sent mine in too, don't think It'll be as good as the last ones were Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coasterkoa Posted July 26, 2009 Author Share Posted July 26, 2009 Submission for the Second Round will end at 4am Tuesday July 28th. I have guesses from the following: William Hall greenwhitearmy Hamuel joetheref Charlesbeams Adamw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coasterkoa Posted July 30, 2009 Author Share Posted July 30, 2009 Obviously the deadline has passed, haha. I've just been dragging my *** a bit at getting the second round results posted. I'll get it sorted soon and posted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Looking forward to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coasterkoa Posted July 31, 2009 Author Share Posted July 31, 2009 Round Two: Show Me the Markka, Results The winner of the round will receive 10 extra points and the Show Me the Markka Trophy, a reference to the fact that the fourteen players represent the highest paid player on each team in the Veikkausliiga (Finnish Premier League) in the year 2036. Player One: Aki Keskitalo CA: 107 PA: 149 Best scouting report: Charlesbeams with a guess of CA = 120 and PA = 150. Average guess of CA = 109 and PA =134. Player Two: Amid Mahmudov CA: 102 PA: 119 Best scouting report: Adamw with a guess of CA = 106 and PA = 142. Average guess of CA = 91 and PA =141. Player Three: Christian Adams CA: 114 PA: 137 Best scouting report: greenwhitearmy with a guess of CA = 110 and PA = 140. Average guess of CA = 108 and PA =146. Player Four: Harri Lehtonen CA: 102 PA: 145 Best scouting report: William Hall with a guess of CA = 100 and PA = 165. Average guess of CA = 130 and PA = 153. Player Five: Francisco Rivera CA: 112 PA: 113 Best scouting report: greenwhitearmy with a guess of CA = 100 and PA = 114. Average guess of CA = 104 and PA =122. Player Six: Jaakko Miettinen CA: 105 PA: 112 Best scouting report: greenwhitearmy with a guess of CA = 100 and PA = 130. Average guess of CA = 103 and PA =142. Player Seven: Joni Virta CA: 97 PA: 98 Best scouting report: Adamw with a guess of CA = 97 and PA = 112. Average guess of CA = 90 and PA =117. Player Eight: József Puskás CA: 102 PA: 128 Best scouting report: Charlesbeams with a guess of CA = 110 and PA = 130. Average guess of CA = 102 and PA =115. Player Nine: Jouko Jantunen CA: 116 PA: 136 Best scouting report: Adamw with a guess of CA = 110 and PA = 121. Average guess of CA = 117 and PA =149. Player Ten: Juho Majava CA: 110 PA: 134 Best scouting report: Hamuel with a guess of CA = 119 and PA = 132. Average guess of CA = 95 and PA =110. Player Eleven: Noureddine El Mrini CA: 130 PA: 149 Best scouting report: Hamuel with a guess of CA = 141 and PA = 145. Average guess of CA = 11 and PA =132. Player Twelve: Kimmo Korhonen CA: 107 PA: 108 Best scouting report: Adamw with a guess of CA = 104 and PA = 104. Average guess of CA = 104 and PA =121. Player Thirteen: Zoran Eftimov CA: 127 PA: 159 Best scouting report: Hamuel with a guess of CA = 130 and PA = 160. Average guess of CA = 126 and PA =156. Player Fourteen: Tommy Thomassen CA: 117 PA: 145 Best scouting report: Hamuel with a guess of CA = 129 and PA = 142. Average guess of CA = 113 and PA =136. The Show Me the Markka Trophy goes to, drum roll please… Adamw! Another solid round from last round's champion, earning him 1026 points. He has proved his last round win was no fluke. He wins the Show Me the Markka Trophy and 10 points. Collect your trophy here: Show Me the Markka Trophy Round Two Scoreboard: Player Points 1 Adamw 1026 2 greenwhitearmy 1018 3 Hamuel 993 4 Charlesbeams 933 5 joetheref 834 6 William Hall 591 Further proof of the miracle of averages, the if your guesses were averaged, the score would be 1085.633333, much better than any of you individually. Overall Scoreboard: Player Points 1 Adamw 1720 2 Hamuel 1554 3 greenwhitearmy 1531 4 Charlesbeams 1456 5 joetheref 1375 6 William Hall 591 7 KiddingChoc 533 8 Welsh Wizard 486 Round Three will be posted shortly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetheref Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Bad round for me still in 5th though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwhitearmy Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 oo nearly winning it 3rd overall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joetheref Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 I will be going on holiday tomorrow until Friday so probably wont be able to post until then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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