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[FuSS]

FuSSimile v1.0 (a copy)

 News

• Version 1.0 released (enter sarcastic/cutting comment here)

Changes

• None, it's the first version (obviously)

Synopsis

• As always with my tactics I'm aiming for football, which is successful, easy on the eye, and uses a common formation (no, I don't want 3 sodding strikers thanks!)
• This year it's all about through balls. There's lots of vertical play and loads of risky but beautiful passes down the channels (I've really enjoyed watching this one!)

Important

• This tactic isn't plug and play, it'll outperform anything that is if you put some effort in though! (It's almost like this game wants you to "manage" your football club, outrageous!)
• As the last couple of years - I'm just sharing my personal tactic (and not a single **** will be given if it works for you or not!)

Mentality

• I'm mostly using Standard, but if I'm not winning at 70 minutes, I switch to to attack (yes, even against bigger sides, **** um!)

Team Talks

• Do them yourself, even the best Assistant Managers are poor at them (use the search function, that little box up there....you...yes you...that's the one...good job)

Opposition Instructions

• I'm not using them! (Guess what SI, they're **** and don't work, now hurry up with that new match engine, you've been hawking the same one for years already)

Team Selection

• Do it yourself (ready for the spoon-feeding kids...here we go!)
  • Right footed inside forward on the left side of the pitch.
  • Left footed inside forward on the right of the pitch.
  • Right footed DC in the right DC position.
  • Left footed DC in the left footed DC position.

Pre-Season

• Pre-season is super important (is that important though? Wait he said SUPER important, is he ******** me? No, he means it!)
  • I set everyone on double training and continue it for the full season (yeah, I get more injuries - but my young players advance quickly)
  • I book a match every third day and rotate a completely different 11 each match in order to give them sufficient rest time (seriously, take 5 minutes, cancel every pre-season game, and rebook your own - if you don't and your players aren't 100% at the start of the season, you will fail, that's on you)
  • I usually start the season with an entirely fit team and complete tactical familiarity (if you do pre-season right, you'll smash everyone, regardless of the bloody tactic!)

Rotation, Rotation, Rotation

• Aim to have two experts for every position - ideally a first team squad of 22 players (famously advice from Jose, yes, he's actually a good manger, Pep is better you say...is he...is he really...I think you sir should think about your football know-how very carefully)
• Personally, I setup and save Team A and Team B and rotate them every single match - this guarantees player condition and keeps everyone happy with their playing time (may not be realistic, but by god does it work in FM....oh and buying more than 3 or 4 players isn't realistic either, so please direct your bitching to SI).
• If someone doesn't like it, I sell them, nobody is bigger than the club (I'm looking at your Ronaldo!)

Shouts

• Shouts are overpowered, but easy to do, simply use them as often as you can (SI gave you a cheat button in-match, if you aren't using it, who's the idiot? It's not me...so it's you or SI....or you and SI)
• Drawing - Rotate "Encourage" and "Demand More"
• Losing - Rotate "Berate" and "Fire Up"
• Winning - Rotate "Praise" and "I've not quite worked this one out yet, how about you do some of the bloody work yourself?"

Players

• CF – Deep Lying Forward (Attack)
  • Type of player: Any excellent striker will do.
  • Best stats: Finishing, Composure, Physical 
  • Good PPMs: "Likes to Beat Offside Trap", "Placed Shots"
     
• AML/R - Inside Forwards (Attack)
  • Type of player: A traditional inside forward.
  • Best stats: Dribbling, Acceleration, Finishing.
  • Good PPMs: "Cuts Inside", "Runs with Ball Often".
  • Note 1: SHOULD USE OPPOSITE FOOT.
  • Note 2: I've found strikers can play well here.
     
• MCL - Box-to-Box Midfielder (Support)
  • Type of player: Your midfield dynamo. A good box-to-box player is hard to find, but they act like having a 12th man on the pitch.
  • Best stats: Needs decent stats across the board - a **** box-to-box is worse than no player at all!
  • Good PPMs: "plays one-twos"
     
• MCR - Central Midfielder (Attack)
  • Type of player: This is where you use your typical AMC superstar.
  • Best stats: Anticipation, Decisions, and mental stats rule the roost here.
  • Good PPMs: "plays one-twos"
     
• DMC – Deep Lying Playmaker (Defend)
  • Type of player: You're actually after a competent DMC first and foremost, if he can also pass and create then that's a great bonus.
  • Best stats: Tackling, Positioning, Anticipation.
  • Note 1: This position is important, there's lots of good value DLP's out there, buy one if you don't own one.
     
• FB – Full Back (Support)
  • Type of player: The most important position in this tactic, you're asking a lot of your full-backs, they need to be great defensively, fast, dribble and cross.
  • Best stats: Marking, Tackling, Crossing, Dribbling, Acceleration.
  • Good PPMs: "Runs with Ball Down The X".
  • Note 1: This is the most important position in your team - get good players here, this is where to splash that cash!
     
• CB – Ball Playing Defenders (Defend)
  • Type of player: Heading, Jumping and Positioning are vital as this tactic uses a high defensive line, so you'll need to win the ball in the air.
  • Best stats: Heading, Jumping, Marking, Tackling, Positioning.
  • Good PPMs: "Does Not Dive into Tackles"
  • Note 1: This tactic uses a high-defensive line, that means you want your defenders to win the ball "in the air", there's a common misconception that acceleration is key, it certainly isn't bad, but you can be the faster player in the world, if you're facing the opposite direction from the attacker, you'll still lose the race - I've had better ratings from slow old DC's with amazing jumping and heading stats than I've had from quick younger DCs.
     
• SK - Sweeper Keeper (Defender)
  • Type of player: Just the best keeper you can get hold of.
  • Best stats: Handling, Reflexes, Arial Reach.

Download below! (Download it or don’t, I could care less.).

P.S. FuSS bears no responsibility for you being an idiot and sucking at the game. If you want to just buy a team of Galactico’s and click your way through seasons as fast as possible I suggest you try FIFA. Oh, no I don't keep my old tactics, stop sending me 100 messages a day asking for them, use google. Dick.

P.P.S - I was full of flu when I wrote this, sorry. Much love you all!

FuSSimile_v1.0.fmf

Edited November 17, 2023 by FuSS

[FuSS]

Formation:

Season 1 results:

Edited November 17, 2023 by FuSS

[FuSS]

Season 1 - Premier League Scalps

Edited November 17, 2023 by FuSS

[Vspec1]

All hail the king! And back with some attitude it seems:

P.S. FuSS bears no responsibility for you being an idiot and sucking at the game. If you want to just buy a team of Galactico’s and click your way through seasons as fast as possible I suggest you try FIFA. Oh, no I don't keep my old tactics, stop sending me 100 messages a day asking for them, use google. Dick.

[FuSS]

1 minute ago, Vspec1 said:

All hail the king! And back with some attitude it seems:

P.S. FuSS bears no responsibility for you being an idiot and sucking at the game. If you want to just buy a team of Galactico’s and click your way through seasons as fast as possible I suggest you try FIFA. Oh, no I don't keep my old tactics, stop sending me 100 messages a day asking for them, use google. Dick.

 

haha, gotta have some fun while we wait for the new match engine in FM25!

[FuSS]

I always consider it an excellent sign when your U21's and U18's do well using your tactic.

They achieved this without any interference from me, I didn't even let any of my senior squad play in the U21's this year (I forgot to set it up!)

Edited November 17, 2023 by FuSS

[Carninho]

go on i'll give it a go for a season. about to start my 5th with Dynamo Dresden. I've got a full on rebuild to do and I loved using one of your earlier tactics on a previous FM 

 

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Edited November 18, 2023 by Carninho

[joandrle]

Could this tactic work with my Barcelona?

[Carninho]

As I have finished the first page of fixtures thought it woudl be a good time to share my results.

Didnt helf that my star player Ouedrago was poached by Dortmond. They also recalled my starting LB Rothe as wasnt playing him in their desired role.

Means I have lots of chemistry and familiarity to build with a couple of regen wonderkids.

IMO the results have been really good

 

 

Edited November 19, 2023 by Carninho

[loisvale]

Important

• This tactic isn't plug and play, it'll outperform anything that is if you put some effort in though! 

 

Great (and quite amusing read as ever). If it isn’t plug and play what tweaks/ changes do you make? Is it just changing the mentality to attacking if not winning at 70mins and rotating the two 11s or are there any other thoughts you can share? What do you do if a team is all over you for instance? Do you do something different to avoid the press from stronger opposition? 

Your results are insane. I am almost glad I’m not that successful from the start - don’t know how you stay motivated to play it!

brilliant stuff and thanks for sharing. 

[Warszawa]

done well with Sampa

[FuSS]

19 hours ago, Carninho said:

As I have finished the first page of fixtures thought it woudl be a good time to share my results.

Didnt helf that my star player Ouedrago was poached by Dortmond. They also recalled my starting LB Rothe as wasnt playing him in their desired role.

Means I have lots of chemistry and familiarity to build with a couple of regen wonderkids.

IMO the results have been really good

Looks good, thanks for the feedback.

Conceding a few too many, which I found early doors with Norwich too.

I found bigger/taller/heading/jumping CB really helped.

But it's definitely an area I want to tighten up.

I'm not sold on the DLP.

8 hours ago, Warszawa said:

done well with Sampa

Wow, nice results.

Particularly the goal difference.

Interestingly it looks you've conceded the least in the league by quite some way.

Any defensive tweaks? I'd be interested to see what sort of CB you usually use.

16 hours ago, loisvale said:

 

Important

• This tactic isn't plug and play, it'll outperform anything that is if you put some effort in though! 

 

Great (and quite amusing read as ever). If it isn’t plug and play what tweaks/ changes do you make? Is it just changing the mentality to attacking if not winning at 70mins and rotating the two 11s or are there any other thoughts you can share? What do you do if a team is all over you for instance? Do you do something different to avoid the press from stronger opposition? 

Your results are insane. I am almost glad I’m not that successful from the start - don’t know how you stay motivated to play it!

brilliant stuff and thanks for sharing. 

Lot of questions!

By not plug and play, I'm referring more to the fact that you increasingly have to manage your team in FM over the last 10 years.

Tactics are a smaller and smaller part of success (which is a good thing!).

I absolutely swear by rotation and conditioning in this game. I'm pretty sure you could pick any tactic and if you prepped and used your team properly you'd win.

I think putting some real game time into pre season is key.

And actually watching matches and seeing what your actual players do is important.

For my money the player match rating system for FM is a poor guide to performance. For example: a DC can be playing like crap, but score a corner and he'll be rated 7.5-8.0.

if you didn't watch the match and watch him you wouldn't know that he's playing like crap and change him when you should!

I could go on for hours but that's a start

BIG TIP - because this tactic is all about playing between the lines and defence splitting passes going defensive against bigger sides is just asking for trouble! It might be counter intuitive, but I like to attack bigger sides of I'm struggling against them, go for the goal.

Edited November 20, 2023 by FuSS

[Warszawa]

My CD's are nothing special to be honest, new season looking even better with not to strong squad.

[loisvale]

21 hours ago, FuSS said:

Looks good, thanks for the feedback.

Conceding a few too many, which I found early doors with Norwich too.

I found bigger/taller/heading/jumping CB really helped.

But it's definitely an area I want to tighten up.

I'm not sold on the DLP.

Wow, nice results.

Particularly the goal difference.

Interestingly it looks you've conceded the least in the league by quite some way.

Any defensive tweaks? I'd be interested to see what sort of CB you usually use.

Lot of questions!

By not plug and play, I'm referring more to the fact that you increasingly have to manage your team in FM over the last 10 years.

Tactics are a smaller and smaller part of success (which is a good thing!).

I absolutely swear by rotation and conditioning in this game. I'm pretty sure you could pick any tactic and if you prepped and used your team properly you'd win.

I think putting some real game time into pre season is key.

And actually watching matches and seeing what your actual players do is important.

For my money the player match rating system for FM is a poor guide to performance. For example: a DC can be playing like crap, but score a corner and he'll be rated 7.5-8.0.

if you didn't watch the match and watch him you wouldn't know that he's playing like crap and change him when you should!

I could go on for hours but that's a start

BIG TIP - because this tactic is all about playing between the lines and defence splitting passes going defensive against bigger sides is just asking for trouble! It might be counter intuitive, but I like to attack bigger sides of I'm struggling against them, go for the goal

 

Appreciate the reply. It works very well. Well done.

 

Have been getting great results. The only game so far where I’ve had any trouble is when I had a man sent off. Should it happen again I will try something different than I tried the first time and work it out!

[FuSS]

2 hours ago, loisvale said:

 

Appreciate the reply. It works very well. Well done.

 

Have been getting great results. The only game so far where I’ve had any trouble is when I had a man sent off. Should it happen again I will try something different than I tried the first time and work it out!

Lol, I've not tried with 10 men yet as I've been finding very few fouls/yellows with this tactic, not had a red yet.

Off the top of my head I'd say lose the box-to-box, move the DLP to the box-to-box physical position (although keep him as a DPL).

That should be least disruptive to the style of play if you go down a man.

[loisvale]

Tried cm defend last time. Will try this next time! Thanks. 

[jmb1403]

Glad to try out one of your tactics again (predicted 17th)

Edited November 28, 2023 by jmb1403

[jdubsnz]

@FuSSlooks like a great tactic. are there any PIs or is it just the TIs and the formation in the post?

[FuSS]

20 hours ago, jmb1403 said:

Glad to try out one of your tactics again (predicted 17th)

Nice - very pleasing Goal difference too!

[FuSS]

5 hours ago, jdubsnz said:

@FuSSlooks like a great tactic. are there any PIs or is it just the TIs and the formation in the post?

It's mostly PI's.

I believe in keeping the TI's simple and instructing the individual positions within that framework.

[WillyBroadband]

@FuSS Hello mate, can't wait to give this a go*, always been a fan 

*FuSStive Spirit still worked really well for me on FM24

[FuSS]

2 hours ago, WillyBroadband said:

@FuSS Hello mate, can't wait to give this a go*, always been a fan 

*FuSStive Spirit still worked really well for me on FM24

Well there's not much difference - hence the hint in the name :p

[calimero80]

Would the tactic work if we substitute counter press or both instead of counter?

[FuSS]

5 hours ago, calimero80 said:

Would the tactic work if we substitute counter press or both instead of counter?

It wouldn't be a substitute as one is an action with the ball (counter = we got the ball, let's attack quickly!), the other is an action without the ball (counter press = we've not got the ball, quick chase it!).

I'm not a fan of chasing the ball.

The default for a successful tactic in this game is to turn on counter press, turn up pressing, and have the highest defensive line.

This works by sheer brute force, you're basically telling you players to run after the ball with no regard for anything else (like watching under 10's playing football - they all just go to the ball constantly).

It works - but it shouldn't work.

It's a flaw in the match engine, one I don't like, and I think is really visually unappealing.

I don't think turning all the pressing options up in the game is representative of a gegenpress (ala Rangnick), it's more extreme than that. Gegenpress is more conditional, and even then it doesn't work against top level oppositions. For example Liverpool haven't used a gegenpress style under Klopp for several years now.

I think the best example of turning up all the pressing options is probably Keegan's Newcastle - who used to play totally mad high pressing football and win matches by "we'll score one more than you mentality". Which doesn't work when you come up against a technically superior team, because a quick football brain, good vision, and a desciving pass will take a two-three player press out of the game in an instant.

 

Edited December 2, 2023 by FuSS

[jdubsnz]

On 30/11/2023 at 02:18, FuSS said:

It's mostly PI's.

I believe in keeping the TI's simple and instructing the individual positions within that framework.

cool, thank you

[Shippy]

On 29/11/2023 at 13:18, FuSS said:

It's mostly PI's.

I believe in keeping the TI's simple and instructing the individual positions within that framework.

Just curious what sort of PI’s you would use. Not something I’ve really used

[tropicsafc]

Thanks again for this tactic. Have used it on previous editions to great effect. Just got promoted with Oviedo using it and im intrigued what tweaks, if any, people have been using? 
 

I experienced a slight dip in form towards the end of the season and removing 'be more disciplined' for home games seemed to do the trick. I also tend to remove the 'gets further forward' PI on the full backs when protecting a lead.

 Thanks again!

[Helldragon]

Hi, great Thread! I have a Question. I am looking for a Targetman Tactic. Do you think your tactic work with a Targetman on Attack instead of DLF?

[Avrupa Fatihi Galatasaray]

Will there be a tactical update

 

[luke19952018]

By far the best tactic I've found! Awesome work!

Have you done any tweaks with this tactic at all with success? Noticed a few seasons in results seem to slump a bit - as is the same with every tactic!