50-pence Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Hi there. I've done a great deal of searching and it looks like nobody has an answer: Is there really no way to improve your manager's "working with youngsters" attribute? Everything I've seen suggests it's impossible, and I'd love to get confirmation from a staffer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snorks Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I'm not sure,, but I think if you work with young players a lot, it will increase over time but a slow process. Be involved in the u23 and u18 training, sign younger players etc etc. As I mention, it will be a long process but I think it's doable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
50-pence Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 You would think so. But reviewing others' experiences that doesn't seem true. See the stat progress for managers in this challenge (ctrl+f "WWY"). You'll find virtually all stats increase except for WWY ( ) Likewise here, notice all stats improve except LoD, Adaptability, and WWY. We know how to improve LoD and Adaptability, but not WWY ( ) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazRTaylor Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) I will add my opinion as you linked to my topic. I have also recorded my stats on the dafuge Challenge this season. In my time of recording my games on the forum, around four years or so, my LoD, Adaptability & WWY have never increased. Bug or working as intended? Only SI can answer. Edited December 4, 2019 by DazRTaylor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazRTaylor Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 If you look on the fifth page of the first topic @50-pence links, I have relinked below, you will see my stats after my sixth season. LoD, Adaptability & WWY have not changed in the six seasons I have been playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
50-pence Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 34 minutes ago, DazRTaylor said: I will add my opinion as you linked to my topic. I have also recorded my stats on the dafuge Challenge this season. In my time of recording my games on the forum, around four years or so, my LoD, Adaptability & WWY have never increased. Bug or working as intended? Only SI can answer. Thanks for bringing this up. From what I've read, LoD can be increased by disciplining/fining your players for suspensions, performances, etc. (See the discipline contract at the start of the season). And adaptability can be increased by taking a job in a foreign country/a country where you have to learn a different language. I'm inclined to believe those reports. WWY, however, doesn't seem to change, even when someone works with plenty of young players (23 and under). As a last ditch effort, I wonder if it is only increased if you coach a youth team (such as an youth nation in an international competition). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazRTaylor Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 8 hours ago, 50-pence said: Thanks for bringing this up. From what I've read, LoD can be increased by disciplining/fining your players for suspensions, performances, etc. (See the discipline contract at the start of the season). And adaptability can be increased by taking a job in a foreign country/a country where you have to learn a different language. I'm inclined to believe those reports. WWY, however, doesn't seem to change, even when someone works with plenty of young players (23 and under). As a last ditch effort, I wonder if it is only increased if you coach a youth team (such as an youth nation in an international competition). I have quite a harsh Code of Conduct and have fined my players tens of times each season. Yet my LoD remains the same. I am only in England so Adaptability won’t change, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
herne79 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Might be worth uploading your game saves and raising the issue in the bugs forum. @Seb Wassell is there anything you can share here in terms of certain manager attributes (eg., working with youngsters, level of discipline) not increasing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Seb Wassell Posted December 5, 2019 SI Staff Share Posted December 5, 2019 They are dynamic, Level of Discipline changing based on actions such as fines for example, so as @herne79 says there may be an issue here. If you could post your example/s in our bugs area with the save that'd be great cheers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazRTaylor Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) Edit - Now raised on bug forum. For clarity, here are my stats over a seven year period: Season Reputation Qualifications Att Def Fit GkD GkH GkS Tac Tec Men WWY Ada Det PlK YoK LoD MaM Mot ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ At Start Minimal (0.25*) None 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 4 1 1 1 4 1 1 1 2020/21 Minimal = (0.75*) ↑ National B Licence ↑↑ 6 ↑ 6 ↑ 2 ↑ 4 ↑ 3 ↑ 2 ↑ 6 ↑ 6 ↑ 6 ↑ 4 = 1 = 5 ↑ 5 ↑ 6 ↑ 1 = 6 ↑ 5 ↑ 2021/22 Decent ↑ (1.75*) ↑ Continental B Licence ↑↑↑ 10 ↑ 10 ↑ 5 ↑ 6 ↑ 6 ↑ 4 ↑ 10 ↑ 10 ↑ 9 ↑ 4 = 1 = 8 ↑ 8 ↑ 9 ↑ 1 = 9 ↑ 9 ↑ 2022/23 Okay ↑ (2.50*) ↑ Continental A Licence ↑ 11 ↑ 11 ↑ 5 = 6 = 7 ↑ 5 ↑ 11 ↑ 11 ↑ 11 ↑ 4 = 1 = 9 ↑ 11 ↑ 10 ↑ 1 = 11 ↑ 11 ↑ 2023/24 Fairly Good ↑(2.75*) ↑ Continental Pro ↑ 14 ↑ 14 ↑ 6 ↑ 6 = 7 = 5 = 13 ↑ 13 ↑ 13 ↑ 4 = 1 = 11 ↑ 12 ↑ 12 ↑ 1 = 13 ↑ 13 ↑ 2024/25 Fairly Good =(2.75*) = Continental Pro = 14 = 14 = 6 = 6 = 7 = 5 = 13 = 13 = 13 = 4 = 1 = 11 = 12 = 12 = 1 = 14 ↑ 14 ↑ 2025/26 Good ↑ (3.25*) ↑ Continental Pro = 14 = 14 = 6 = 6 = 7 = 5 = 13 = 14 ↑ 13 = 4 = 1 = 11 = 12 = 12 = 1 = 15 ↑ 14 = 2026/27 Good = (3.25*) = Continental Pro = 14 = 14 = 6 = 6 = 7 = 5 = 13 = 14 ↑ 13 = 4 = 1 = 11 = 13 ↑ 12 = 1 = 15 ↑ 15 ↑ Edited December 5, 2019 by DazRTaylor 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
50-pence Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 Thank you guys. @Seb WassellWould you say the way WWY is *supposed* to rise is merely by incorporating youth into the first team? Or training youth? Developing youth into full regulars? Working as U19 and U23 intl coach? What's the path to it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Seb Wassell Posted December 5, 2019 SI Staff Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 hour ago, 50-pence said: Thank you guys. @Seb WassellWould you say the way WWY is *supposed* to rise is merely by incorporating youth into the first team? Or training youth? Developing youth into full regulars? Working as U19 and U23 intl coach? What's the path to it? If you don't mind me being coy this once, I'd rather we investigated to discover why (/if) it isn't functioning as intended before detailing how it works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
50-pence Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 Sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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